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mav_9me

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The amount of baseless speculation without knowing anything about his situation I guess is par for course. Particularly worse cuz most of you are not healthcare professionals. :nono:
 
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As a person who works in this field and specifically in heart diseases diagnosis, I can tell you that I have seen many young adults than normal getting myocarditis (heart muscle inflammation) recently. Not a small number of them was after receiving the covid vaccine (within 2-7 days). Covid itself has a higher risk of causing myocarditis, but it is well documented now that the vaccine can cause it too but at lower rate compared to the disease itself (although the studies are small and for short term, more studies needed).
With 71% of the British population vaccinated with at least one dose, around 51 million we can safely assume that’s more than would have got covid in the past year. The fact that the vaccine might cause heart issues even if it’s at a lower rate than the disease will start to become noticeable throughout all areas of life.
 

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I have a heart condition and you don't just get palpitations. There is an underlying cause.
Unfortunately, the most likely explanation is either Covid or the MRNA vaccines. As mentioned already, there is a high enough rate of myocarditis that we are seeing well known athletes having heart problems. Myocarditis is quite serious, if he has it, he could be out for a few weeks at least, and hopefully he will make a full recovery. There is news that some Utd players tested positive for Covid. Maybe he was one?
No. There are many other explanation that are more probable.
 

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He has been our best defender this season and hopefully everything is fine. There has been no news/rumors on his injury so I'm guessing he should be fine. Normally if it is that serious, you will already hear news or leaks of it.
 

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The problem is that the dressing room probably doesn’t have the needed devices to perform more detailed tests. I guess something as simple as ECG is not available. Medical Imaging might be taken the next day in hospital but I doubt it’s usefulness in this case, because the damage if there is any would be too small to detect.
Hope someone can lead the research looking into these cases. UEFA needs to set up a task force for this.
I guess so, but that is sad. With today's technology, the ECG machines is connected to the database they can let any specialist anywhere check it directly (if the medical team on the ground do not have the competence to do it).
 

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I have a heart condition and you don't just get palpitations. There is an underlying cause.
Unfortunately, the most likely explanation is either Covid or the MRNA vaccines. As mentioned already, there is a high enough rate of myocarditis that we are seeing well known athletes having heart problems. Myocarditis is quite serious, if he has it, he could be out for a few weeks at least, and hopefully he will make a full recovery. There is news that some Utd players tested positive for Covid. Maybe he was one?
:lol:

I get them often. Thats why I suggested it could easily be anxiety, just like mine are. Turns out you dont have a monopoly on palpitations as plenty of people get them and not for the same reason.

Regardless the point is there can be several less alarming causes why he felt the need to come off after some kind of issue with his chest. Hopefully its one of the better case scenarios and he's able to carry on as normal soon.

Fear mongering about covid and vaccines helps nobody

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/heart-palpitations/
 

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Working in a cardiology specialty practice, I’m almost 100% certain they have the basic equipment to perform ECG’s and such.

hope he is well!
 

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Working in a cardiology specialty practice, I’m almost 100% certain they have the basic equipment to perform ECG’s and such.

hope he is well!
Hope thats the case. ECG is simple and cheap. But it’s only the recent few years, football authorities have started to require the league games equipped with AED.
 

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https://www.riotimesonline.com/braz...ng-on-vaccines-requires-informed-consent/amp/

Japan is adding myocarditis warning to covid vaccines and stepping away from mandatory vaccination, required informed consent.
This "stepping away" from mandatory vaccination, is bullshit. Japan leads G7 in vaccinations, higher than Canada (formerly top). They don't need anything "mandatory" since they already have very high rates of vaccinations, including more than 90% of Japanese 65 and older. Mandatory measures are needed only in nations with a lot of antivaxxers.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...g-7-in-covid-shots-without-a-mandate-in-sight
 

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I hope he is back soon, he has been our most consistent and best CB this season, I've grown to like him very much, which is fecking strange just saying it.
 

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I hope he is back soon, he has been our most consistent and best CB this season, I've grown to like him very much, which is fecking strange just saying it.
Been to Stockholm lately?
 

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Not his biggest fan, far from it, but wish him a speedy recovery.

Someone said that when Pogba had covid last season and now it's a Caf meme.
Im not sure what you’re getting at here either?

he’s states he wishes him a speedy recovery
 

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I think something along the lines of a panic attack would be the best possible outcome, that raises heart rate and makes breathing feel difficult. It seems unlikely but after a collision and perhaps mindful of Eriksen and others there could be anxiety in that area. I really hope hes not found to have any underlying issues, fingers crossed.
 

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Adam-Utd

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And? I don't get it my friend.
You've been going against Lindelof so long you're now in favour of him. A bit like Stockhold Syndrome.

Dont worry it was just a joke.
 

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So still gathering the info before making a diagnosis
Right. I know it’s following the protocol, but it probably won’t unveil anything abnormal because he won’t engage anything actively these two days and he recovered quite shortly after being substituted.
 

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One of the few who can really gain something from that postponed game, get his health properly checked, rest a bit and ease back to full time training.
 

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One of the few who can really gain something from that postponed game, get his health properly checked, rest a bit and ease back to full time training.
I think it better for him staying sidelined for at least a month or longer, and gradually going back to full training.
 

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Right. I know it’s following the protocol, but it probably won’t unveil anything abnormal because he won’t engage anything actively these two days and he recovered quite shortly after being substituted.
They'll have him doing exercise tests if they can't find anything else.

Having been in his boots myself it will be a scary few days for him. Hopefully its a minor arrhythmia, or nothing at all.
 

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Right. I know it’s following the protocol, but it probably won’t unveil anything abnormal because he won’t engage anything actively these two days and he recovered quite shortly after being substituted.
I’ve worn enough of these monitors capturing nothing and still ended up with a replacement aortic valve and a quadruple bypass.
he will be told to continue doing his days as normal, but it won’t be normal because of covid training is closed, his natural reaction as well will be to take things a bit easier.
Holter monitors have their uses but I suspect they won’t capture anything of Victor now. IF he does have an underlying heart issue it will raise its head again later for sure
 
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This "stepping away" from mandatory vaccination, is bullshit. Japan leads G7 in vaccinations, higher than Canada (formerly top). They don't need anything "mandatory" since they already have very high rates of vaccinations, including more than 90% of Japanese 65 and older. Mandatory measures are needed only in nations with a lot of antivaxxers.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...g-7-in-covid-shots-without-a-mandate-in-sight
The vaccination rate for over 65s in the U.K. is also over 90%.
We live in an ever changing world, I know some medicines are banned in one country and legally prescribed in another. However, I do think the fact that Japan has added this warning shouldn’t be ignored and ignoring things only gives conspiracy theorists more fuel.
 

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The vaccination rate for over 65s in the U.K. is also over 90%.
We live in an ever changing world, I know some medicines are banned in one country and legally prescribed in another. However, I do think the fact that Japan has added this warning shouldn’t be ignored and ignoring things only gives conspiracy theorists more fuel.
Nothing to do with Lindelof. Take it to the many other covid threads
 

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Right. I know it’s following the protocol, but it probably won’t unveil anything abnormal because he won’t engage anything actively these two days and he recovered quite shortly after being substituted.
He'll still train individually, mate.
 
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