There are firearms but they are still outlawed (pistols etc post Dunblane). To knowledge the only people allowed to own semi automatics are police. Realistically, owning a gun here is v v difficult (in England not sure about NI).
Thanks for that.
The rules in NI are fairly similar to Canada. But that's the point; the US shows us what an absence of controls will bring, and as we return to baross' point, why it would seem absurd to require training to use a jet ski but not a gun.
Knife crime isn't even that bad, you're more likely to get stabbed to death in the US than you are here, and do you mean police shootings? I think there's been more than three.
And far too many differences (confounding variables) in relation to the USA (other than strong firearm training) to be sure about that.
Heh. I was young and stupid and had actually been given some decent training on gun safety. Which went out the window once my adrenaline dumped. Which is my point really. There's a world of difference between giving someone compulsory training on safe use of guns (the proposal here) and actively competing in a martial art, when it comes to preparing them to deal with high stress situations.Need I remind you about that bird you winged?
The shooting disciplines have competitions much like the martial arts. Realistically, modern practitioners experience similar adrenaline rushes from competition no matter what it is. Concentration and keeping your form is paramount to success whether your art is kung fu, bullseye, hunting, whatever.
It is easy to get a shotgun in the UK. Apply for a license to shoot for sport. Get interviewed by the police and show them you have sensible and secure storage for it.
I grabbed that tidbit from Wiki on my commute, so maybe? Not sure. Knife crime is something we need to improve on, imo. there was a horrible period in 2013 where we had like 15 teenage knife deaths from January to July.
The gunman who killed these people today fired 8 shots in a couple of seconds, with a gun concealed on his person until the last moment. Try doing that with a shotgun.
Yep my mate has a shot gun. He has to have fortnightly liaisons with the police, and he has to log it's use. It's stringent but deservedly so.
I don't disagree with any of that, mate. Keep in mind that there is theoretical training and practical training. One needs the theory before the practice. That's how I was trained and it seems effective. Most trainers here wouldn't allow someone that young to experience practical training.
I think some debate about gun control is bound to occur. There's not much to say about the OP. Horrible tragedy, possibly hard to avoid given the environment. Certainly hasn't been done before.
I don't disagree with your point. There was that guy in Cumbria who went on a rampage a few years ago though. He killed 12 I think with legally obtained shotguns and a rifle? British style gun control keeps the weapons out of the hands of most of the people inclined to do such things anyway.
If your subordinate clause begins with 'which', then a comma will be sufficient.
Last time i checked, the jetski wasn't invented to kill things though.
I think we're going to have to agree to disagree pal. I just can't think of any reason why a country wouldnt adopt the UK/England's way of gun control. The benefits of banning far out weigh the detriments.
Irrelevant. Both can be dangerous if used recklessly.
I'm not entirely sure why you disagree with barros in the first place.
He advocates gun legality and ownership, I don't. A civilian in a country with no guns (ideally) will less likely be shot dead than one which has guns.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...Williams-profile-of-Virginia-news-gunman.html
I consider it an overreaction myself, but having visited England agree that it's probably best for your country.
Obviously the UK is a better example. Realistically that isn't going to happen in America though, in which case being trained to use guns as safely as possible is a definite improvement.
With my semi-automatic shotgun? Pump gun or over-under barrel? Do you realize a shotgun is a terrible gun if someone uses buck shells and if they cut the barrels to conceal? I can load 5 shells on my shotguns besides the over-under.
Yeah, but it won't happen.
Um. No. We're talking about Uk law. Which would prevent you from owning the penis extension you just described.
You can't have semi-shotguns in UK? I can shoot really fast with my pump gun and I'm able to shoot 3 skeet in the air.
I think they banned all semi-autos after Dunblane. NI may be the exception in the UK.
Don't think you can. You'd either have to get rid of their need for attention or their ability to get it through these acts, neither of which is really possible.
We can't, but if they adopt the 30 days waiting plus the criminal background check like in New Jersey then we may have less crime.
Many will argue that not reporting it will curb the trend. I disagree though, based on my local police and media blackout on reporting suicides on the subway/underground and commuter train tracks as plenty of people still go out like that.
Yeah the idea with that approach is that you'll cool your jets during the waiting period. It probably works most of the time but it's impossible to tell, really.
Though I don't have firearms, I fully understand and respect those who have a culture where they use rifles and guns for sport and even those who use semi-automatic weapons in gun ranges for target shootings.
