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Haven't been a fan of Rooneys performances this season, but really liked what I seen today. His best game of the season IMO. Reminded me of another brilliant lead the line game he had against Spurs away circa 2010.
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And some people still try to claim he's not a top striker.Was just looking up Rooney's Manchester United goalscoring stats compared to some other great strikers of modern football and it makes for pleasant reading :
Wayne Rooney : 0.49 goals per match in all competitions.
Raul Gonzalez : 0.44 goals per match match in all competitions for Real Madrid.
Andriy Shevchenko : 0.49 goals per match in all competitions for AC Milan.
Thierry Henry : 0.56 goals per game in all competitions for Arsenal and Barcelona.
Filippo Inzaghi : 0.46 goals per game in all competitions for Juventus and AC Milan.
David Villa : 0.50 goals per game in all competitions for Real Zaragoza, Valencia and Barcelona.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic : 0.48 goals per game in all competitions for Juventus, Internazionale, Barcelona, AC Milan and PSG.
Samuel Eto'o : 0.50 goals per game in all competitions for Barcelona and Internazionale.
Ruud van Nistelrooy : 0.68 goals per game for Manchester United and Real Madrid.
There are only two strikers who are substantially better in terms of goal efficiency from that list - van Nistelrooy with 0.68 and Henry with 0.56. And from that list, almost no other player has been more of a utility man or been played out of position more frequently or contributed more to the team's overall playing style both offensively and defensively. Which makes Rooney's tally all the more impressive when compared to strikers who were more classical finishers in the mold of Inzaghi.
Short term - Rooney is currently on 227 goals for Manchester United and 46 for England; and should be able to surpass Sir Bobby's total of 249 and 49 sometime next season. Plus, he is on 168 league goals for Manchester United and should eclipse Henry's record of 174 goals for a single Premier League club this season considering that there are still 9 games left to play.
More longer term - There is Alan Shearer's record of 260 Premier League goals plus Raul's benchmark of goals for a single club at 323 in all competitions. Surpassing both of them would be an incredible achievement and should finally put a stamp on Rooney's legendary career.
The solitary knock on him would be the relative lack of Champions League goals with just 29. Decent figures but considering how someone like Benzema has 41 and Drogba 44, Rooney should be better placed after almost a decade of playing in the competition. He still has time to make up for it and would do well to get somewhere around 50 by the time he hangs up his boots.
What's been wrong with his performances this season? He's been at least good all the time, despite having to play in CM half the season.Haven't been a fan of Rooneys performances this season, but really liked what I seen today. His best game of the season IMO. Reminded me of another brilliant lead the line game he had against Spurs away circa 2010.
Just an opinion. I said he was excellent today, just havn't enjoyed his performances this season in midfield or as a support striker. Been saying it for years but for me he's a number 9 all day long. Looked very dynamic today and was running at players which i havn't seen him do much this season.What's been wrong with his performances this season? He's been at least good all the time, despite having to play in CM half the season.
Does the man never just deserve some unconditional praise? For me, he's been a good player and captain all season and he was excellent today.
Sorry Sir Bobby.....Rooney will get the record next seasonNow just twenty goals behind Sir Bobby.
All depends on where he'll played in the future. If we keep playing him up top, he has a decent chance of catching Shearer, but he will likely need at least three more seasons as our first choice striker. Not sure I see it.
Dare I say it, watch out Shearer?
Am I the only one who thinks it looks more like he slips because hes wearing socks on a hard floor rather than actually being put down by the slap?So I just saw this video, now I know what his celebration was about
I tried to pull a similar pass once to disastrous proportions. Mind you I'm stronger on my right foot but I attempted the pass from the right side of the pitch with my left . I'm obviously a top player in my head .That pass to Fellaini with the outside of his foot
Depaytime to make him number 9, permanently.
bring in a couple of top wing forwards next season and just play 4-3-3.
His game against Arsenal in the league was as good as this one, imho. Although in terms of the quality of the goal, this is his best.I think today's performance was his probably best of the season, I really like what I saw from him today. Waaay better than any of his recent ones which were bit overrated because he was scoring goals even though his all around play was very average. Still, even those were better than most of van Persie's and Falcao's this season, so there's really no reason to start any of those two ahead of him up front.
Couldn't believe he did it. I did a belly dance, celebrating that goal.That goal reminded me of a young Rooney. Great celebration as well!
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God I miss Ruud, one of the best goalscorers in the last decade.Was just looking up Rooney's Manchester United goalscoring stats compared to some other great strikers of modern football and it makes for pleasant reading :
Wayne Rooney : 0.49 goals per match in all competitions.
Raul Gonzalez : 0.44 goals per match match in all competitions for Real Madrid.
Andriy Shevchenko : 0.49 goals per match in all competitions for AC Milan.
Thierry Henry : 0.56 goals per game in all competitions for Arsenal and Barcelona.
Filippo Inzaghi : 0.46 goals per game in all competitions for Juventus and AC Milan.
David Villa : 0.50 goals per game in all competitions for Real Zaragoza, Valencia and Barcelona.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic : 0.48 goals per game in all competitions for Juventus, Internazionale, Barcelona, AC Milan and PSG.
Samuel Eto'o : 0.50 goals per game in all competitions for Barcelona and Internazionale.
Ruud van Nistelrooy : 0.68 goals per game for Manchester United and Real Madrid.
There are only two strikers who are substantially better in terms of goal efficiency from that list - van Nistelrooy with 0.68 and Henry with 0.56. And from that list, almost no other player has been more of a utility man or been played out of position more frequently or contributed more to the team's overall playing style both offensively and defensively. Which makes Rooney's tally all the more impressive when compared to strikers who were more classical finishers in the mold of Inzaghi.
Short term - Rooney is currently on 227 goals for Manchester United and 46 for England; and should be able to surpass Sir Bobby's total of 249 and 49 sometime next season. Plus, he is on 168 league goals for Manchester United and should eclipse Henry's record of 174 goals for a single Premier League club this season considering that there are still 9 games left to play.
More longer term - There is Alan Shearer's record of 260 Premier League goals plus Raul's benchmark of goals for a single club at 323 in all competitions. Surpassing both of them would be an incredible achievement and should finally put a stamp on Rooney's legendary career.
The solitary knock on him would be the relative lack of Champions League goals with just 29. Decent figures but considering how someone like Benzema has 41 and Drogba 44, Rooney should be better placed after almost a decade of playing in the competition. He still has time to make up for it and would do well to get somewhere around 50 by the time he hangs up his boots.
Phil Bardsley's girlfriend has come out and said he was only pretending to be knocked out. Sat up, laughing, a second after the Sun cuts the video.Am I the only one who thinks it looks more like he slips because hes wearing socks on a hard floor rather than actually being put down by the slap?
Ok fair enough. I personally felt he actually did pretty well in midfield given that it's far from his ideal position. He dominated the Newcastle game from the middle and still found time to score a brace, just for starters! Not many players can put in performances like that when out of position, so it seems a bit harsh to use that period as a reason to be disappointed with him this season.Just an opinion. I said he was excellent today, just havn't enjoyed his performances this season in midfield or as a support striker. Been saying it for years but for me he's a number 9 all day long. Looked very dynamic today and was running at players which i havn't seen him do much this season.
Yep, that was a beaut.
*** pass