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That's terrifying. I wouldn't be surprised to see the legality of it challenged on the basis that it's already reported that facial recognition technology seems to struggle when it comes to people who are not white, and on that basis unless they can prove that their system doesn't have that problem then surely there is a chance that some non-white candidates may be filtered out as a result of problems with the technology.
 

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That's terrifying. I wouldn't be surprised to see the legality of it challenged on the basis that it's already reported that facial recognition technology seems to struggle when it comes to people who are not white, and on that basis unless they can prove that their system doesn't have that problem then surely there is a chance that some non-white candidates may be filtered out as a result of problems with the technology.
Yes. By definition surely it’s discriminatory on many levels
 

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Home Secretary doing anti semitic dog whistling on tv. But at least the media will hold her accountable

 

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Home Secretary doing anti semitic dog whistling on tv. But at least the media will hold her accountable

Pretty obvious she's talking about Labour. You dont need to scrape the barrel like this to find criticisms of the Tories.
 

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Pretty obvious she's talking about Labour. You dont need to scrape the barrel like this to find criticisms of the Tories.
Read the second tweet. Also doesn't matter if she meant Labour(They've spent the last few years calling Corbyn a commie and suddenly he is now a liberal)its a anti Semitic dog whistle.
 
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I always find it funny when they refer to Corbyn as metropolitan liberal elite. Mostly because Corbyn does not fit the mental image but also don't the Tories always claim to be liberal themselves?

Is Boris not metropolitan or elite?
 

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Priti Patel is a walking paradox. A North London Elite, who hates The North London Elites, a staunch supporter of the right wing Israeli Government, whilst also bowing to Anti-Semetic tropes. A person born to foreign parents, who wants to stop foreign people coming to Britain. She's maybe the most odious out of all of Johnsons' cabinet.
 

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Read the second tweet. Also doesn't matter if she meant Labour(They've spent the last few years calling Corbyn a commie and suddenly he is now a liberal)its a anti Semitic dog whistle.
This phrase has become synonymous with Labour in the last few years, pretty much since the Thornberry/flag incident. I just googled it, every hit on the first few pages was about Labour and/or the left. I couldn’t even find a suggestion there was an antisemitic context. If there is another connotation, it’s fair to suggest Patel wasn’t aware of it.
 

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This phrase has become synonymous with Labour in the last few years,
Yes its synonymous with Labour but its been even longer synonymous with anti semitism. The largest Hasidic community in Europe is in North London(Again the second tweet).


I couldn’t even find a suggestion there was an antisemitic context.
From the references on wiki - The term was also regularly used by Nick Griffin, the former leader of the BNP.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...led-leader-of-neo-Nazi-party-Golden-Dawn.html

The BNP leader and MEP, who has a masters degree in law from Cambridge, has prepared a legal challenge at the European Court of Human Rights in a bid to defend Golden Dawn from "liberal, totalitarian repression".

He admitted that the appeal to a European human rights court that he opposes was "deeply ironic" but insisted that it could be a tool to inflict a "humiliating and expensive defeat" on the Greek state and "liberal European elite".

"Anywhere a genuine radical nationalist party becomes seen as a threat to the system, Europe's liberal elite says it is fine to crush it. That is wrong and dangerous," he said.

In a statement with a veiled reference to Jewish financiers or "usurers", written in a prison cell by Mr Michaloliakos and read out by his wife, the Golden Dawn leader lavished praise on Mr Griffin, comments that might come back to haunt the BNP leader who insists he "is not a Nazi".


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https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/observations/2017/01/anti-semitism-right-wing-problem

In the 1930s, campaigners for a deal with Hitler started by arguing that Britain should not fight the “Jews’ war”. Then they got cleverer. My father was one of them, and Richard Griffiths, an expert on the far right, writes that John Beckett and others used the terms “usury”, “money power”, “alien” and “cosmopolitan” as coded references to Jews.

Today, one code is “north London metropolitan elite”. Danny Cohen, until 2015 the BBC’s director of television, was furiously attacked by newspapers for firing Jeremy Clarkson, and the Times called Cohen a “fixture of the north London metropolitan elite”. The comedian David Baddiel tweeted: “Surprised Timessubclause doesn’t add, ‘and y’know: a rootless cosmopolitan of east European stock’.” Dave Cohen, the author of Horrible Histories, tweeted: “Times calls Danny Cohen ‘part of north London metropolitan elite’. We hear what you’re saying, guys.”

it’s fair to suggest Patel wasn’t aware of it.
Also doesn't matter if she meant Labour(They've spent the last few years calling Corbyn a commie and suddenly he is now a liberal)its a anti Semitic dog whistle.
I'm not trying to have a go or anything but it was clearly anti semitic.
 
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Kuenssberg giving BJ a much harder time in her latest interview him, just on BBC News @10pm.

Think she is now very conscious that her reputation is in ruins, as well as smarting that Boris has other 'women friends with benefits' aside from her!


BTW: Anyone know what's wrong with her left lower jaw, when she speaks?
 
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Kuenssberg giving BJ a much harder time in her latest interview him, just on BBC News @10pm just now.

Think she is now very conscious that her reputation is in ruins, as well as is smarting that Boris has so many other women friends with benefits.
Funnily enough he had a perfectly rehearsed answer for each of her questions and her follow up questions to his answers she was reading off the page.

Honestly I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a staged exchange.
 

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Funnily enough he had a perfectly rehearsed answer for each of her questions and her follow up questions to his answers she was reading off the page.

Honestly I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a staged exchange.
Hmm. You think she gave him advance sight of the questions?
 

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Hmm. You think she gave him advance sight of the questions?
Call me cynical but yeah I absolutely do.

The whole interview was a wooden exchange where she asked a question firmly and he was allowed to give his 2 minute monologue without interruption. Her questions were delivered to him with all the gusto of Paxman but the actual content was exactly the topics he wanted to be talking about.

I don’t trust either of them.
 

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I swear you must have a huge ream of references to hand!

I doubt it’s that uncommon to be honest, even if it’s not a word for word dialog the subject matter will often be moderated before hand.

The reason I’m sceptical in this case is that it was just all to perfect. Johnson gets to prepare for and answer some seemingly difficult questions while Kuessenberg gets to appear like she’s roughing him up a bit and in no way bias towards him whatsoever.
 

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I swear you must have a huge ream of references to hand!

I doubt it’s that uncommon to be honest, even if it’s not a word for word dialog the subject matter will often be moderated before hand.

The reason I’m sceptical in this case is that it was just all to perfect. Johnson gets to prepare for and answer some seemingly difficult questions while Kuessenberg gets to appear like she’s roughing him up a bit and in no way bias towards him whatsoever.

Is it a bad thing for a PM (or senior leader) to be given prior notice of questions, so they can properly prepare? Especially when it’s serious stuff on massive communication platforms.

Surely it’s unfair to expect a PM to remember or know everything on the spot? Of course any interviewer should have good probing follow up questions; in the end what is important is the subjects true views are known.
 
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The Home Secretary calling another person elite is quite something.
 

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Diane abbot standing in for Corbyn at pmq's apparently... Bit of a message that thornberry is persona non Grata for wanting to remain in the EU...
She's up against raab...
I have a feeling pmq's is about to reach new lows
 

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The way Priti Patel smiles in that sinister way during her speech is creepy. I can't believe she's been advised that that's a good thing to do.
 

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Priti Patel is a walking paradox. A North London Elite, who hates The North London Elites, a staunch supporter of the right wing Israeli Government, whilst also bowing to Anti-Semetic tropes. A person born to foreign parents, who wants to stop foreign people coming to Britain. She's maybe the most odious out of all of Johnsons' cabinet.
And she constantly looks like she's seeking approval. Says something, nods to herself in agreement and then totally lights up once someone starts clapping.

Reminds me of a school girl really proud that she just learned to read and gets to do so in front of class. Then again I do get why tories would like that...
 
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Could she not have said something like "limiting the unsustainable levels of immigration" or something? Like I don't agree with her no matter the wording but surely there's a way of coming across as more human.
 

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Diane abbot standing in for Corbyn at pmq's apparently... Bit of a message that thornberry is persona non Grata for wanting to remain in the EU...
She's up against raab...
I have a feeling pmq's is about to reach new lows
The only difference between you and those gammon blokes who call LBC is your position on the EU. Was this just blind luck ?
 

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Even during this entire shitstorm it's one of the oddest speeches I've seen.

"We will finally end freedom of movement..." Because freedom and movement are notoriously awful things.

Could she not have said something like "limiting the unsustainable levels of immigration" or something? Like I don't agree with her no matter the wording but surely there's a way of coming across as more human.
Indeed. If she wants to dog whistle to her far right audience then there are much more obvious ways of making it sound like a win.

And as for the North London metropolitan liberal elite comment, wow. Surely she's just taking the piss now?

Priti Patel was born on 29 March 1972 to Sushil and Anjana Patel, in the London Borough of Islington,[7] while her parents were resident in Harrow.[8]
 

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Could she not have said something like "limiting the unsustainable levels of immigration" or something? Like I don't agree with her no matter the wording but surely there's a way of coming across as more human.
Your missing the point that these lines are fed to them largely by Cummings team. It's just to create a very obvious targeted brexit related victory line.

The entire conference has come across very weird. Nearly every speech is just spouting general election lines usually an attack on Labour rather than any actual policy
 

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Your missing the point that these lines are fed to them largely by Cummings team. It's just to create a very obvious targeted brexit related victory line.

The entire conference has come across very weird. Nearly every speech is just spouting general election lines usually an attack on Labour rather than any actual policy
They haven't got any right ? Ok they might throw some funds at certain towns in the hope to win them over in next election but really this is the only Cummings and the tories have. Which isn't completely nothing as there is a purely anti socialist vote out there(Middle class old white men)but its really not much.
 

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Worth saying Diane Abbott is now the first black person to represent her party at PMQ's in British history.