It’s ridiculous, the entire pandemic has gone tits up, and been an absolute disgrace, and they get one thing right and it’s all okay.
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People literally just ignore any bad news or anything the tories do that could be considered a disgrace and wait to praise them for anything they do right, its ridiculous.
Even with a boost for a well executed vaccination program I'd be surprised if, given the shit-show of the last 12 months, we see anything like pre/early pandemic polling levels (24-26%) anytime soon.
100,000 dead. Unbelievable.
The general public are thick as feck.
Tories will bring in a simple 3 or 4 word slogan and the masses will fall for it...they got Brexit done, and by the time of the local elections, things will be re-opening and a sense of 'normality' will be returning.
ANDDD the Corbynism supporters may not come out to vote Labour this time
Decimate and conquer. It's not that Tories want to starve children and kill sections of the population, it's just that collateral death is considered an inevitable price of good country management.
They see the classic trolley problem as not a moral thought experiment but a concern of transport efficiency.
But putting aside innate Tory callousness and that most governments are often shit at doing stuff, this iteration in particular, have
displayed a level of gross incompetence at running things in conjunction with making an active decision to fully embrace Trump bravadoism.
They see the classic trolley problem as not a moral thought experiment but a concern of transport efficiency.
But putting aside innate Tory callousness and that most governments are often shit at doing stuff, this iteration in particular, have
displayed a level of gross incompetence at running things in conjunction with making an active decision to fully embrace Trump bravadoism.
And the public will still vote for the Tories. Blood on their hands.
Jesus the sucking off of Tory backbenchers to Johnson in this PMQS is pathetic.
That is to a degree understandable. So many people just focus on the latest thing instead of looking at and considering the whole picture.
And quite honestly if people are so short sighted as to think that Boris Johnson and his government are actually doing anything other than a totally incompetent and shambolic job, then they deserve whatever they get.
Yet again and with over 100,000 covid related deaths, Starmer was not really able to score a knockout punch on Johnson.
This I believe is because Starmer is too much of a gentleman who believes that logic and tough questions are going to unsettle Boris.
Unfortunately, Starmer is going to have to become less well mannered and more brutal in his dealings with the PM.
His time is running out...in two weeks, we will significantly less daily cases, deaths and hospitalisations on the down too - and the vaccine roll out continuing to go well.
Boris will have got brexit done, and now leading us to a slow recovery.
Starmer needs to be kick to land a few solid hits
He needs a John Prescott to put the boot in. Current Labour MPs seem either polite or dim. I'd try bumping Jess Phillips up for more airtime, I know lefties don't like her but she does have a way of saying things ordinary people feel, and that seems to be hard for Labour at the moment.
Very much so. Labour is appearing too Starmer centric. He has to offer people an alternative voice. The people are there. He must start to trust and empower them.
The fact is that Boris has found a way of dealing with Starmer questioning. Just don't answer the question.
So give the lying git something else to contend with. And keep on doing that to expose him for what he is.
And if anyone needs me to explain that, then I am sorry for you.
I don't think I've seen a PMQ's where Boris has answered a question yet. Most of the Tory 'questions' is self-adulation of either themselves or the Boris.
But the vaccine roll out isn't the governments doing, it's the NHS. It's so important that people don't start giving the Tories credit for this.
Yes but they've got the Vaccine head in place, every press conference has it as one of the headline figures, and, Starmer is always saying they're doing a good job. The general public are too thick to tell the difference.
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Indeed.
But Marcus Rashford and Piers Morgan are both high profile and in the public eye.
Apart from the weekly PMQ, when do the public at large get to see the leader of the opposition.
It's not just Starmer that looks bad there, it's the Labour Party as a whole.
There's also another poll that shows people think Keir Starmer would do a better job on the right than Marcus Rashford.
there's layers to that joke
there's layers to that joke
A job swap waiting to happen.
Too true! They couldn't win an election for dog catcher.
They are almost totally out of 'sync' with their red wall supporters, even Nandy, who was being hailed as the great 'northern saviour' for Labour has shot herself in the foot; wrong subject, wrong place, wrong time!
"We cured covid" I can see it now. The Tory voting masses will lap it up.
If by Corbynism, you mean socialism, the founding stone of the Labour Party, then you may be right. Maybe suspending the whip from the former Labour leader is not the best way to go about creating unity. Especially after the formal investigation recommended the opposite.
The only time he popped his head up was to demand schools go back. Other than that he has been far to compliant on disastrous Tory policy. Oh, and he has done the odd Daily Mail article.
I don't think most of the general public even watch PMQs to be honest.
Is Government ramping up costs to silence us?
https://goodlawproject.org/update/ramping-up-costs-silence-us/
https://goodlawproject.org/update/ramping-up-costs-silence-us/
Using unprecedented levels of public money to defend a case brought about due to unchecked use of public money. Corrupt to the core.
Indeed. The opposition has been almost completely pushed off the news agenda because of all that's going on at the moment.
We'll get an indication whenever the local elections take place. That will hopefully light a rocket under Labour
No they don't. And quite frankly I am finding it just a sham.
Yes.
I do still believe that their time will come as we draw closer to an election though.
And hopefully when a public inquiry into the government shambolic handling of the pandemic; if that happens...
Their usual airtime slots have basically been taken up by scientists.
I do hope we have an enquiry. It would be scandalous if we do not.
It will. But they are going to need to be dragged screaming to accept one.
It is up to us to push hard for it.
I have and will continue to lobby my (useless Tory) MP.
'Time will come' for what?
If there is a public enquiry into the handling of the Pandemic it will be along the lines of an evaluation exercise, of what went right, and what didn't, it will be non political, there will be no 'blame game'; unless Labour are 'praying' for another pandemic to occur, when they are the government, just so they can show they would do it right!
A post Covid 'hammering' of the Government over its handling of a pandemic that no one had experienced before, is not viable, yes it might soothe brows of those who only want to get stuck into the Tories but it is not a vote winner for future elections. Labour should be wary of focusing on a 'sitting/easy' target and anyone suggesting that they do!
The 'Levelling up' promises and any targets that Boris set is the thing Labour should be focusing; on again not 'name calling of the Tories', but actually putting forward policies to achieve that aim, quicker and more effective than any Tory ideas, in other words 'steal the Tory's 'levelling- up' clothes, but do it faster, better and smarter!
The one good thing coming out of Labour's 'Corbyn Leadership' era was that for a while Labour did have some policies that resonated with the public; then finding they were getting a good response, they went completely mad and started promising everything to everybody, and subsequently any chance of affecting a GE result via realistic policy, went down in flames.
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These people have nothing but contempt for the country.
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Its not that easy though, you can’t just stick the boot into the government in the middle of a massive crisis without looking like opportunistic dicks who put politics above the national interest. Politicians have made this mistake before and suffered for it.
This sounds like a plotline from Years and Years, doesn't it? Just missing the part where they deliberately infect them to instigate a more-or-less cull.
@BeardedGenius has been swimming in the fountain of youth. Thought he’d been quiet on Twitter.