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Utterly utterly depressing that something that was crucial to the health of the nation and cost the tax payer an eye wateringingly unfathomable amount of money was placed in the hands of this incompetent cretin.
 

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The thing is that politics are a giant set of cogwheels. Even if you're straight and honest you wont and can't change much of real politics.

At best a few token regulations to appease the mass. But the international politics is already set in stone by some invisible mechanism no matter who's in charge.
There is some truth to this but the point about cogwheels is that they move. Politics isn't set in stone except in cases where people spread defeatism by assuming they can effect no change.
 

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No idea who the MP is or what this harassment is - but this is a perfectly normal letter which I would assume is sent out to lots of voters turning 18, and would be replicated across the country?
Some more context:

 

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No idea who the MP is or what this harassment is - but this is a perfectly normal letter which I would assume is sent out to lots of voters turning 18, and would be replicated across the country?
I can’t say I know of a single person who received a letter from their local mp on turning 18. I certainly didn’t.
 

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Were you an 18 year old girl in the constituency of a creepy nonce?
I couldn’t remember who my local mp was when I turned 18. Upon looking him up it seems he was a racist and a massive cnut (described as a right wing libertarian) but no allegations of noncery so that may well be the reason.

Racist but not a nonce. I suppose that’s pretty good for politicians of the era. Take a bow mr. Eric Forth.
 
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I can’t say I know of a single person who received a letter from their local mp on turning 18. I certainly didn’t.
how long ago was that for you!

all I was trying to say, is that I would not see it as anything unusual. Politicians are always trying to mobilise the youth.

Having said that, obviously given this guy’s history - it doesn’t look good, even if this is a standard letter that gets sent out.

in no bloody way, an i defending him.
 

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how long ago was that for you!

all I was trying to say, is that I would not see it as anything unusual. Politicians are always trying to mobilise the youth.

Having said that, obviously given this guy’s history - it doesn’t look good, even if this is a standard letter that gets sent out.

in no bloody way, an i defending him.
Some years ago:lol: 2006 feels like a lifetime ago.

I had certainly never heard of it ever happening before but a quick google search shows it is far more common than I realised. They definitely didn’t do it when I was 18, maybe my local mp has started doing it now as I can’t say I have any interactions with 18 year olds to know but interesting to find out it seems a pretty common thing.

I would have thrown mine away if they had sent one.
 
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Some years ago:lol: 2006 feels like a lifetime ago.

I had certainly never heard of it ever happening before but a quick google search shows it is far more common than I realised. They definitely didn’t do it when I was 18, maybe my local mp has started doing it now as I can’t say I have any interactions with 18 year olds to know but interesting to find out it seems a pretty common thing.

I would have thrown mine away if they had sent one.
I suppose I could have googled it as well!
 

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I can’t say I know of a single person who received a letter from their local mp on turning 18. I certainly didn’t.
That's because in days gone by MP's believed the old maxim about "children being seen and not heard!"... most never got over the lowering of the voting age from 21 to 18. The fact they are seeking to canvas young peoples votes this way suggests they have not been listening to the line from the Eddie Cochran hit 'Summertime Blues"..... "I'd like to help you son, but you are too young to vote" :)
 

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That's because in days gone by MP's believed the old maxim about "children being seen and not heard!"... most never got over the lowering of the voting age from 21 to 18. The fact they are seeking to canvas young peoples votes this way suggests they have not been listening to the line from the Eddie Cochran hit 'Summertime Blues"..... "I'd like to help you son, but you are too young to vote" :)
Or, the guy is a verified nonce and this is his M.O.
 

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Meanwhile, back in the real world of government corruption...

Pin resets wipe all data from over 100 Treasury mobile phones

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...all-data-from-over-100-treasury-mobile-phones
The government use iPhones don't they? So the chances are they definitely use the MDM service Jamf. Devices will wipe automatically after up to 11 failed password attempts, which you can reduce to I think 3 or 4 attempts. However, IT services would also be able to clear the passcode remotely for users. The fact the article says that IT services themselves wiped the devices suggests that users hadn't hit the code limit before the devices wiped themselves, so instead of pressing "clear passcode" they just used the "wipe device" option.
 

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It's shocking how easy it is to control people.

We have news of a successful actual trial here.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-57724779

Trials of a four-day week in Iceland were an "overwhelming success" and led to many workers moving to shorter hours, researchers have said.

The trials, in which workers were paid the same amount for shorter hours, took place between 2015 and 2019.
Productivity remained the same or improved in the majority of workplaces, researchers said.
A number of other trials are now being run across the world, including in Spain and by Unilever in New Zealand.

Then we see "new research" like this. They make their own "survey" and give it a "twist" and claims all such moves are not possible.

https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/socialist-push-four-day-week-184431425.html

Campaigners argue that productivity gains for businesses from more motivated and efficient staff would protect wages and make up the shortfall in hours – but research from the Social Market Foundation (SMF) found that employees are unwilling to take a hit in their own pay packets so the policy becomes possible.
The think tank found that 80pc of British workers opposed a four-day working week if it meant lower wages, with only one in 10 happy to work less and earn less.
The average UK worker spends 36.5 hours a week on the job and would need to raise their productivity by 16pc in order to avoid a drop in output, with even bigger gains needed from those working longer hours, the SMF said.
The report warned that to be viable, the policy would require lower profits for businesses, higher prices for consumers or a taxpayer subsidy. The SMF added that the policy could also entrench social divides and be seen as an elitist white-collar office perk by the large parts of the working population unable to benefit.
 

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How cool would it be if the players of football clubs banded together and made some big gesture against racism? I bet Boris and the rest of the cabinet could get behind that!

Oh….

Exactly. Not an opportunity or photo op that this PM turns down
 

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That's right Boris, Priti, tell racist England fans that they are within their right to boo anti-racist gestures, and then come out all shocked when those racist fans racially abuse players...

fecking pathetic!
Make comments about watermelon smiles while you're at it, I guess.
 

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Make comments about watermelon smiles while you're at it, I guess.
Step 1: Make your own racist comments (watermelon smiles / letterboxes, take your pick)
Step 2: Tell racists they're perfectly entitled to condemn anti-racist gestures
Step 3: Act appalled when it turns out racists will racially abuse players
 

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Racist abuse of England players Marcus Rashford, Jadon Sancho & Bukayo Saka condemned by Boris Johnson and FA


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57800431
The same government that:
1 - encouraged fans who booed players for taking the knee
2 - insisted institutionalised racism doesn't exist
3 - currently drawing up laws, in response to the BLM protests, to criminalise such activity.
4 - is literally full of cnuts (this has nothing to do with the point, but its worth repeating, daily)
 

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Step 1: Make your own racist comments (watermelon smiles / letterboxes, take your pick)
Step 2: Tell racists they're perfectly entitled to condemn anti-racist gestures
Step 3: Act appalled when it turns out racists will racially abuse players
And amazingly

Step 4: Get away with it