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How do the Tories get away with the idea that they love the country and Labour hate it?

Or to ask the question another way why do Tory voters think it's okay to attack our institutions (BBC. NHS, Rail) but if anyone dares to criticise what we GB did 200 years ago well that's uncalled for!
Because the British electorate are idiots, to put it plainly.
 

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How do the Tories get away with the idea that they love the country and Labour hate it?

Or to ask the question another way why do Tory voters think it's okay to attack our institutions (BBC. NHS, Rail) but if anyone dares to criticise what we GB did 200 years ago well that's uncalled for!
Because when your national 'constitution' (such as it is.... i.e.unwritten) is based primarily on 'precedence', then the secret is to continue to uphold the virtues of the past and when in power seek to set new precedents that underpin your politics....simples!
Tories are expert at this and have been at it longer than Labour.
 

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Because when your national 'constitution' (such as it is.... i.e.unwritten) is based primarily on 'precedence', then the secret is to continue to uphold the virtues of the past and when in power seek to set new precedents that underpin your politics....simples!
Tories are expert at this and have been at it longer than Labour.
This is nonsense, it’s got nothing to do with expertise. It has everything to do with:

  • Tories have zero shame and zero respect for any democratic convention that does not suit their own self interests.
  • Tories have the billionaire elites normalising and hiding their corruption in plain sight through the media they own.
Put simply they are a party run for and run by the ultra wealthy. The ultra wealthy ensure the Tories do everything they can to protect that wealth to the detriment of the rest of the population and in return the ultra wealthy do everything they can to protect the Tories.

Labour have no such luxury, anything they attempt to do which is in the interest of the public rather than the ultra wealthy is hit with a smear campaign and destroyed before it can be understood.

You’re a prime example of this sort of coercion.
 

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This is nonsense, it’s got nothing to do with expertise. It has everything to do with:

  • Tories have zero shame and zero respect for any democratic convention that does not suit their own self interests.
  • Tories have the billionaire elites normalising and hiding their corruption in plain sight through the media they own.
Put simply they are a party run for and run by the ultra wealthy. The ultra wealthy ensure the Tories do everything they can to protect that wealth to the detriment of the rest of the population and in return the ultra wealthy do everything they can to protect the Tories.

Labour have no such luxury, anything they attempt to do which is in the interest of the public rather than the ultra wealthy is hit with a smear campaign and destroyed before it can be understood.

You’re a prime example of this sort of coercion.
Spot on. Especially point 2. People are brainwashed by a steady diet of Rupert Murdoch fuelled bullshit. This BBC thing is a case in point, like their news coverage has done anything but tow the government line over recent years (and that's being generous). Genuinely find it hilarious that people think it's too left when things like the below have been normalised


The fact Murdoch wants his lackies to defund it should be a wakeup call to everyone as to what he wants it replaced with (if that's not partisan enough for you).
 

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The fact Murdoch wants his lackies to defund it should be a wakeup call to everyone as to what he wants it replaced with (if that's not partisan enough for you).
Are these different lackies to the ones the BBC invite onto their TV and radio output, day in day out to be political commentators?

But imagine a BBC replacement that's news output centres entirely on what Murdoch thinks!
 

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He's been lying for years. It's only now where it's effected a certain demographic people care.
 

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He's been lying for years. It's only now where it's effected a certain demographic people care.
Basically we can take his lies if it hurts other people but if it hurts me or infringes on my freedoms then no! Which is why scandals like this or Cummings cut through, but genuine things that actually matter don’t.
 

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Spot on. Especially point 2. People are brainwashed by a steady diet of Rupert Murdoch fuelled bullshit. This BBC thing is a case in point, like their news coverage has done anything but tow the government line over recent years (and that's being generous). Genuinely find it hilarious that people think it's too left when things like the below have been normalised


The fact Murdoch wants his lackies to defund it should be a wakeup call to everyone as to what he wants it replaced with (if that's not partisan enough for you).
How have I missed this insanity? When did this happen?
 

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This is nonsense, it’s got nothing to do with expertise. It has everything to do with:

  • Tories have zero shame and zero respect for any democratic convention that does not suit their own self interests.
  • Tories have the billionaire elites normalising and hiding their corruption in plain sight through the media they own.
Put simply they are a party run for and run by the ultra wealthy. The ultra wealthy ensure the Tories do everything they can to protect that wealth to the detriment of the rest of the population and in return the ultra wealthy do everything they can to protect the Tories.

Labour have no such luxury, anything they attempt to do which is in the interest of the public rather than the ultra wealthy is hit with a smear campaign and destroyed before it can be understood.

You’re a prime example of this sort of coercion.
Partially agree.
But don't underestimate the wannabe Tories. Those who think that by voting Tory, they are going to be much better off.
And of course, nowadays, many people are only interested in a celebrity type culture. They saw Boris as something different from the traditional politician and loved him for the way he behaved; warts and all.
But fashions change so quickly, especially when you are seen as a useless lying bastard.
 

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This is absolutely priceless. Yvette Cooper setting a pretty obvious trap in the houses of parliament. And Priti Patel walks straight into it.
While it is rather amusing, you have to wonder how dumb is the Home Secretary for not even trying to evade being made to look like a twat.
I think you're confusing being an entitled cnut and being dumb.
 

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Johnson lies to Parliament all the time, even before all this party stuff (party stuff that no one knew for a whole year and a half)
 

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Did they just session throughout the whole of lockdown?

The open disdain for the British public is insane. What a group of cretins.

He's clearly not going to resign either is he?
 

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BoJo is Mr Teflon. He's laughing at the British public
Dom is stating he and other advisers will under oath say that Johnson mislead Parliament...

It's going to be death by a thousand cuts and I suspect that at some point soon its clear he does not have the votes in the Conservative party to survive a leadership challenge (remember that her won just not by enough and her authority was gone)

As soon as the conservative hq election calculas says he's more of a liability than a benefit for a 20203 or 2024 election they will persuade him to step down and spend more time with his family or face the inevitable challenge that he would probably loose

I think if this continues for a few more days he's finished and I'm sure dom has blogs photos and revelations ready to drip feed in