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Is there some mechanism i'm unaware of by which a cabinet can get rid of a pm? Wasn't the entire point of the no confidence vote recently that another one couldn't be called for a year?
They can all quit and that would fold her premiership.
 

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They can all quit and that would fold her premiership.
But in what position would that put them to get jobs in a new cabinet? They'd practically all sacrifice their current position just to get rid... and leave the tories/government in a even worse mess than now, without MP or cabinet.
 

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But in what position would that put them to get jobs in a new cabinet? They'd practically all sacrifice their current position just to get rid... and leave the tories/government in a even worse mess than now, without MP or cabinet.
Probably a strong position, May is on the verge of being ousted. Sticking with her now is more of a career killer than dumping her, as i can see it. The tories (and all parties) lack talent, front benches at the minute are about the best they can all offer, they'd likely be re-hired in some way or another, depending on the position of the PM on brexit.
 

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I hope they appoint chukka to lead a cross party coalition... Just to see Corbyn walk out of the house of commons
How are you making a discussion about May resigning about Corbyn?
 

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I hope they appoint chukka to lead a cross party coalition... Just to see Corbyn walk out of the house of commons
They wouldn't need to make a cross party coalition with Funny Tinge Ltd. Soubry went on the Beeb before the march yesterday to say that they're not interested in a change of government, going as far as saying it's the last thing they want.
 

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The coup against Theresa Moyes conveniently got the march out of the main headlines...
 

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The coup against Theresa Moyes conveniently got the march out of the main headlines...
Or possibly it was the march that made people act to oust her... Most things in politics are interconnected in some way or another
Plus the march was the main story all day... It was the evening the potential coup got talked up more
 

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Doubt the coup rumours are related to the march. Hasn't really worked if that is the case.
This is about scaring the ERG into voting for her shit deal.
 

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Only thing if Gove takes over is it’ll guarantee a Labour victory in the next GE as no right-minded civil servant would vote for Gove.
 

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The coup against Theresa Moyes conveniently got the march out of the main headlines...
Theresa Moyes:lol:
"David Cameron would have struggled with this Brexit"
"Corbyn's cabinet is the cabinet we aspire to be"
"I don't know what we have to do to win"
"We'll try and make it difficult for the EU"
 

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I wonder how many moderate Labour MPs would be prepared to switch.
Depends very much on Tom Watson I think. He's become much more high profile in recent weeks, being particularly critical of the Labour machinery, and has started this centre left peer group of MPs. That's an obvious group of MPs who may jump ship if they're unhappy, and this fact means that Tom Watson now has more political clout than before, since he's the pied piper in some respects. For as long as Tom Watson can continue being the voice of that group, I dont think there'll be any more defections. If he gets the proverbial knife in the back somehow, you can expect a large number defecting all at once.
 

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Let’s not forget that even that 5 point lead would translate to Labour not being able to command a majority. Because our democratic system is really well balanced..
 

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PMQ's is going to be strange today
Corbyn and May blaming each other before going into a meeting about working together...
will be interesting to see how the ERG react to May as it must also be in labours mind to call a confidence motion if the ERG are angry enough
 

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The crisis-hit line, which should have been opened by the Queen last December, is already £2.8 billion over budget and at least a year behind schedule.

The Commons public accounts committee today said it was “not convinced” the trains would run under central London next year as hoped, or that the extra funds would be enough to finish it.
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The 73-mile route will link Reading and Heathrow with Shenfield and Abbey Wood but has been delayed by a series of catastrophic construction, train and signalling problems.


Nine new stations that should have been finished in 2016 are incomplete, a £1 billion fleet of new trains cannot be fully tested and London businesses and fare payers are having to pay extra to foot the £17.6 billion total cost.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/tra...-it-may-not-be-finished-by-2020-a4107891.html
 

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Labour and Tories both lose vote share in Newport West, but a swing to Tories overall. UKIP hoovers up all the leave votes, remainers split between four or five.
 

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Labour and Tories both lose vote share in Newport West, but a swing to Tories overall. UKIP hoovers up all the leave votes, remainers split between four or five.
turnout down by half too.
 

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why the tories are..................fecked


Was literally about to post this, makes for some fun reading. Generally speaking the young have always been a lot more left-leaning than the old but as was remarked upon in 2017 the disparity is growing.

If the Tories do at any point split - unlikely as it may seem - then it may be as the divide increases between the hardliners who want to retain a form of social conservatism and modernisers who try to dress up their right-wing economics in a more cuddly form of social liberalism. Essentially what Change UK are attempting at the moment.
 

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Was literally about to post this, makes for some fun reading. Generally speaking the young have always been a lot more left-leaning than the old but as was remarked upon in 2017 the disparity is growing.

If the Tories do at any point split - unlikely as it may seem - then it may be as the divide increases between the hardliners who want to retain a form of social conservatism and modernisers who try to dress up their right-wing economics in a more cuddly form of social liberalism. Essentially what Change UK are attempting at the moment.
The even better news is that between cuk, the lib dems and any potential tory split they'll completely feck that part of the electorate and roll out a red carpet for Corbyn
 

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And yet a recent poll shows approval among 18-34 year olds as -22 for May and -19 for Corbyn. It's not a secure group of support for them quite yet.
 

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And yet a recent poll shows approval among 18-34 year olds as -22 for May and -19 for Corbyn. It's not a secure group of support for them quite yet.
There could be room for a more centrist party that's properly socially liberal to pick up plenty of votes if people are unhappy with Corbyn and are willing to prioritise social views over economic views. Other than that, might see a move back to disaffection again with lots of young people not voting at all. It's certainly a goldmine for any Labour leader able to inspire confidence though.
 

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Corbyns appeal is the economic policies not the social policies. When the next election comes around why would these groups pass the chance of rent controls in favour of a party with identical social policies that won't even try to make life affordable.
 

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Corbyns appeal is the economic policies not the social policies. When the next election comes around why would these groups pass the chance of rent controls in favour of a party with identical social policies that won't even try to make life affordable.
Pretty much this. Even if they think he's shite they are still going to vote for policies that will improve their actual lives.

Also Corbyn polling will just go up in the election campaign.