Sassy Colin
Death or the gladioli!
Exactly.She wasn't supposed to be there. He pushed her out, not a big deal
Exactly.She wasn't supposed to be there. He pushed her out, not a big deal
Where was security?He seems to have used disproportionate force to the perceived threat. No-one else felt it was necessary to physically remove the woman. The initial shove was aggressive.
A woman in a red dress? Sure POTUS wouldn't have grabbed her by the...?If someone like that advanced on the POTUS there would have been a big pile of burly men with a two arms and two legs sticking out of the sides.
Because the only two options in your mind are 'grab by the throat' and 'do nothing'?So what was supposed to happen, just let her have Carte Blanche & no one do anything? Ok.
He shoved someone posing no direct threat to him up against a wall and choked her. feck off.Exactly.
When in doubt kick her in the cnut... equality and all thatBecause the only two options in your mind are 'grab by the throat' and 'do nothing'?
Do you have anger issues or something that you can't see a reasonable middle ground that resolves the situation without physical intervention.
She should not have been there in the first place, feck her.He shoved someone posing no direct threat to him up against a wall and choked her. feck off.
‘Grab by the throat’ - no he didn’t. He turned her round toward the exit and held the back of her neck before frog matching her away. That is a subtle -but very important- difference from what you are alleging.Because the only two options in your mind are 'grab by the throat' and 'do nothing'?
Do you have anger issues or something that you can't see a reasonable middle ground that resolves the situation without physical intervention.
At least you know that if you shove one of those trying to defend this pathetic prat against a pillar and grab them round the neck they won't object.The gymnastics are incredible.
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Yes, there really is!yo is there a real place called mansion house?
Really insightful and I think it gets to the heart of what drives British society, the Class system.Tweet
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Bleurrrgghh... They’re all so fecking loathsome. And, dare I say it, quintessentially British?
Her opinion hardly constitutes a legal verdict. A former Chief Prosecutor in the UK has already tweeted that he believes it is 'no question' that it is assault and should be charged as such. It's clear that the MP had no reason to believe that she posed a threat to him, as a longer video of the event evidences.And in any case, she’s come out and said she doesn’t think it is Criminal Assault.
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Bleurrrgghh... They’re all so fecking loathsome. And, dare I say it, quintessentially British?
QuiteThe gymnastics are incredible.
If that was the case then why was there no security to stop all of them.She should not have been there in the first place, feck her.
I think the key passage isApparently the police initially denied that this happened but then admitted that it did after they realized that the press already had a fair bit of info:
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A bit worrying that they denied it initially.
wtf kinda shit was on his laptop.The neighbour said they recorded the altercation from inside their flat out of concern for Symonds. On the recording, heard by the Guardian, Johnson can be heard refusing to leave the flat and telling Symonds to “get off my fecking laptop” before there is a loud crashing noise.
Don’t really accept that version of events, but let’s assume you are correct:Her opinion hardly constitutes a legal verdict. A former Chief Prosecutor in the UK has already tweeted that he believes it is 'no question' that it is assault and should be charged as such. It's clear that the MP had no reason to believe that she posed a threat to him, as a longer video of the event evidences.
Don't be such a clown. Violence against women transcends your ideological views. At least, it should do. If I saw a man do that a woman, my first thought would not be 'hmm, should I intervene, or perhaps the aggressor is a left wing figure in which case it's perfectly fine'.Don’t really accept that version of events, but let’s assume you are correct:
Ok, the next time a ground steward runs after a pitch invader and grabs them by the back of the neck & frogmarches them off the pitch & out of OT in similar fashion, let’s charge them with assault then? After all, the steward isn’t being threatened is he & he’s had a few seconds notice to react & catch the invader?
Utter nonsense. Like I say, a role reversal of left/right wing & this doesn’t even get questioned on here & you know it.
It's a ground stewards job, but I dare say if he restrained a female pitch invader in the same way, he would have been criticised at the very least. Bizarre that people are trying to defend this.Don’t really accept that version of events, but let’s assume you are correct:
Ok, the next time a ground steward runs after a pitch invader and grabs them by the back of the neck & frogmarches them off the pitch & out of OT in similar fashion, let’s charge them with assault then? After all, the steward isn’t being threatened is he & he’s had a few seconds notice to react & catch the invader?
Utter nonsense. Like I say, a role reversal of left/right wing & this doesn’t even get questioned on here & you know it.
No, because if the woman was armed for instance is a man not allowed to use any violent means whatsoever to stop her then in that situation solely because of her sex?Don't be such a clown. Violence against women transcends your ideological views. At least, it should do. If I saw a man do that a woman, my first thought would not be 'hmm, should I intervene, or perhaps the aggressor is a left wing figure in which case it's perfectly fine'.
And I admire the audacity in responding that you 'don't really accept that version of events' when given a legal opinion by a former Chief Prosecutor, simply because it undermines your argument.
No, because if the woman was armed for instance is a man not allowed to use any violent means whatsoever to stop her then in that situation solely because of her sex?
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Omg what if that woman in the flowing red dress with her entire arms and shoulders exposed could have been concealing a weapon. Shapiro’s night in shining armour.No, because if the woman was armed for instance is a man not allowed to use any violent means whatsoever to stop her then in that situation solely because of her sex?
...& yeah, that’s ONE legal opinion you’ve referred to, not all of them.
Anyway, I know what you lot are like on here, you’ll argue forever & I won’t, so I’m happy for those powers that be to hand out any ‘justice’ in this & make any recommendations. Just glad it’s not you lot making those judgements as they would likely be skewed by your politics as evidenced by most of the viewpoints expressed. Good night
She was walking past him when he grabbed her, maybe you have poor eyesight. What was he scared of , her brushing his arm with a leaflet. And if you call me a leftie I'll brush you with a leaflet too.No, because if the woman was armed for instance is a man not allowed to use any violent means whatsoever to stop her then in that situation solely because of her sex?
...& yeah, that’s ONE legal opinion you’ve referred to, not all of them.
Anyway, I know what you lot are like on here, you’ll argue forever & I won’t, so I’m happy for those powers that be to hand out any ‘justice’ in this & make any recommendations. Just glad it’s not you lot making those judgements as they would likely be skewed by your politics as evidenced by most of the viewpoints expressed. Good night
Someone being somewhere they maybe shouldn't be doesn't give you the right to actually and literally assault them when they're posing no danger whatsoever to you.She should not have been there in the first place, feck her.
But she wasn't armed. And there was no indication she was. I can't go up to someone in the street and punch them in the face because I think they might pose a threat to me and then claim it as self-defence. This was assault. Nothing less. I'm baffled people are actually trying to construe it as something else and I worry for anyone who thinks that's an acceptable way to act around someone - irrespective of the gender attacking or being attacked.No, because if the woman was armed for instance is a man not allowed to use any violent means whatsoever to stop her then in that situation solely because of her sex?
...& yeah, that’s ONE legal opinion you’ve referred to, not all of them.
Anyway, I know what you lot are like on here, you’ll argue forever & I won’t, so I’m happy for those powers that be to hand out any ‘justice’ in this & make any recommendations. Just glad it’s not you lot making those judgements as they would likely be skewed by your politics as evidenced by most of the viewpoints expressed. Good night
Or a criminal asssult as the rest of us call it.She wasn't supposed to be there. He pushed her out, not a big deal