Photo ID requirements have disenfranchised 2 million people, so that will drive it down further.
Westminster Politics
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Yes, take your ball home if they won't play your way... that's the way to do it!
My considered opinion after a long study of the last ten years of Politics is this:
Tories are Fecked.
Starmer is Fecked.
We're all Fecked.
Sunak is scrabling about trying to bring in policies that may be popular with the 'red wall' seats but will never erase the memory (for me at least) of Liz Truss and co making a complete bollocks of the economy in 40 days or whatever it was. I have mates that lost large chunks of their pensions thanks to Kwarteng.
Starmer was on TV saying Jeremy Corbyn was his friend and colleague. Starmer was on TV when the Wokerati got to him saying Jeremy Corbyn was never his friend. Starmer was on TV looking lost when asked what Labour would do about, well, everything from small boats to Ukraine to potholes.
The only good thing that may happen in the GE is the annihilation of the SNP.
Tories are Fecked.
Starmer is Fecked.
We're all Fecked.
Sunak is scrabling about trying to bring in policies that may be popular with the 'red wall' seats but will never erase the memory (for me at least) of Liz Truss and co making a complete bollocks of the economy in 40 days or whatever it was. I have mates that lost large chunks of their pensions thanks to Kwarteng.
Starmer was on TV saying Jeremy Corbyn was his friend and colleague. Starmer was on TV when the Wokerati got to him saying Jeremy Corbyn was never his friend. Starmer was on TV looking lost when asked what Labour would do about, well, everything from small boats to Ukraine to potholes.
The only good thing that may happen in the GE is the annihilation of the SNP.
In the insane world where refugees no longer tried to get to the UK or the UK opened up safe routes and nobody crossed the Channel in a small boat. The 30,000 people that are deemed responsible for all the ills of the UK - can't blame them anymore - check. EU, no can't be them - Uk have left -check. Who's next on the hit list?
It'll go back to the glory days of 2010-15, the disabled and anyone else in receipt of benefits.
What is insane is that France, Germany and Italy obviously don't rely on shipping that sail through the Red Sea. Because these NATO nations declined to support the US/UK air strikes on Huthis in Yemen who have been attacking civilian shopping.
Ships are going through the Red Sea and France has naval presence to escort /guard vessels - Sunak is lying as usual. The vessels carry goods for everybody. But they're still going through the Red Sea.
Yes I understand that. But only today, another ship was attacked. What is Sunak lying about?
About the vessels all having to go around the Cape of Good Hope. Some are, most aren't. The pirates from Somalia were active for many years and have recently started again as well..
One strange thing is that goods bound for the US don't often go through the Red Sea.
Thank you for this. We will have to see how this issue plays out. I very much doubt it is over.
Eh? Companies with over half of the market share of container shipments in the world are all going round the Cape of Good hope now. No one from MSC, Maersk, CMA CGM or Hapag Lloyd are going through the Red Sea at all. Only COSCO from the big 5 are the only ones going through the Red Sea but they've paused any shipments to/from Israel.
I knew Hapag Lloyd were but not the others. How recent is this? Since last week? Vessels to and from Israel was supposed to be the target of the Houthi.
Most have announced just at the turn of the month and others recently, I've got 2 containers going around there bound for the UK. One with MSC and one with Maersk. Pricing is starting to increase on container, so we'll see a ripple effect in the cost of goods from around May onwards.
Cheers for that.
I looked on Maersk website and looked for a shipping time from Tangier to Singapore which they're still showing as 3.5 weeks for a vessel leaving in 2 days, ie through Suez.
Presume they're hoping/expecting a quick solution. Or will it escalate.
I had a colleague in my team today, the day after 5 asylum seekers died trying to cross The Channel, make a joke about how ‘we can defend the Red Sea but not the Channel. What I’d do is tell people we’re sinking the boats and then sink the next 20 that we find.’
Then, when challenged on the ethics, he chuckled, ‘I don’t care about the ethics of it, I care about the results.’
Turns out I know one of the 22%.
Then, when challenged on the ethics, he chuckled, ‘I don’t care about the ethics of it, I care about the results.’
Turns out I know one of the 22%.
Do you have a HR department?
Stopping the boats is a good thing, people really don't want asylum seekers making a dangerous crossing to get here. The question is how. Labour are talking about processing people in France and opening legal routes, not shipping people off to Rwanda.
What a cnut.
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Labour want to offshore people into just another country that isn’t Rwanda.
Also the “experts” they are talking to like David Blunkett are the ones who originally came up with the Rwanda type policy -https://theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/dec/29/tony-blair-rwanda-style-asylum-plan-2003
Britons living abroad regain right to vote in UK elections as 15-year rule ends
Change to franchise brings UK in line with other major democracies which allow lifelong voting rights
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-to-vote-in-uk-elections-as-15-year-rule-ends
Change to franchise brings UK in line with other major democracies which allow lifelong voting rights
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-to-vote-in-uk-elections-as-15-year-rule-ends
I don't see an issue per se in stopping the boats but to be some sort of society wide zeitgeist, as if it's a fight for suffrage or emancipation, is weird.
I don't think offshoring but I think processing people who arrive here undocumented, is fine. It's the turning it into a political football that winds me up.
I don't think the people Starmer is trying to appeal to with those statements care about the safety of immigrants.
I agree with your point but the question is does Starmer need to parrot anti-immigrant language to promote such policy?
Yeah it’s a tiny tiny number of people and a issue that effects no one in this country. Any British government could easily created safe route and have these people looked after.
As it’s been mentioned it’s bottom of the barrel stuff from a political system in deep decline and unwilling to accept any reforms.
What's this redrawing of the boundaries then? Does that make it harder for a Labour election win? I thought they were still so far ahead in the polling.
The other option is to fix the economy, The NHS, schools, and crime.
Let's face it they aren't going to do that.
Just reading about that.
Boundary changes mean Labour needs bigger swing than 1997 to win general election
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/01/16/boundary-changes-labour-general-election/
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“The Conservatives have made a net gain of seven seats from the new boundaries; Labour has a net loss of two seats. The Liberal Democrats lose three seats and Plaid Cymru drops from four seats to just two.”
Source?
From what I know, some carriers are sending part of their fleets through Red Sea and whilst continuing to send other vessels within their fleets around COGH. The carriers don't tend to own all vessels within their fleet - they charter a lot from other companies/owners. It is predominantly the vessels with links (or potential links) to those friendly with Israel which are being diverted. Same applies to breakbulk, RoRo carriers too. Prices are most definitely rising in terms of surcharges and peak season costs being enforced, which will all flow down to the consumer.
Used to be in the international trading business. Retired for seven years but it got me thinking. Out of the 10s of thousands of containers we shipped all around the world, so little of it went through the Red Sea, definitely a lot less than 10% but that's because we didn't trade much between Europe and the Far East. And the US ship very little through there and the UK (nor the EU) not a great deal. GOGH adds ten days to the journey. See how this pans out.
The source my friend is the main news media. Both the BBC and Sky covered the operation and even though it was clear that just the US and UK jets were involved, you can easily check this out.
Well spotted Paul...it's that insane world that is taking the Tories down the rabbit hole!
With Starmer laying back watching and chewing on a carrot and saying " What's up Doc"
It's not what he said according to other posts - "We've lost control of our borders and we'll stop the boats" is more like it.Well spotted Paul...it's that insane world that is taking the Tories down the rabbit hole!
With Starmer laying back watching and chewing on a carrot and saying " What's up Doc"
Strange that the French vessel Languedoc has intercepted and destroyedd drone missiles on more than one occasion..
It happens after a census to ensure the seats have equal number of registered voters. It is just unfortunate the new House of Commons is drawn in a way more favourable to the Tories. The Electoral Commission, who redraw the boundaries, have to do so politically neutrally, unlike the US for example.
Simon Clarke claims, if mainstream parties do not stop the boats, extremists will fill gap
He then looked in the mirror before he read what an illegal immigrant actually is.
He then looked in the mirror before he read what an illegal immigrant actually is.
