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They are already doing that, by keeping silent on somethings and by indicating they won't be reckless they are working very hard to capture middle of the road/disappointed Tories, or Tories who are not in the 'nasty party' Tory grouping. They are also not giving the RW press any real ammunition or targets to have a go at, certainly not before the GE run-in starts. Most of all though they are relying on the traditional Labour vote, that includes the far left, and they are hoping these traditional voters will know their intentions anyway and trust them.Labour should have to work for votes. They can't just assume the left will turn up because they aren't as bad as the Tories.
For all his and their faults, Blair and New Labour did largely get a lot of the traditional more argumentative lefties behind them with a focus on schools and early years education.
Starmer needs to find his "education, education, education" message.
She even got the books wrong. Holding up the one with the Union Flag on when she said The United States and the one with The Star and Stripes when she said The UK.
The way I see it, I'm not voting for Labour by default, I'm not a Labour member and I never will be a member to any party. I'm not ruling out voting Labour but as it stands I'm leaning against them. For me I'll just look at a combination of the local candidates and what the manifesto's are decide based on that.You could well be correct, it's amazing how many people who consider themselves true socialists are prepared to 'cut off their noses' to spite Starmer's face. Wonder what they will tell their children if they do managed to rob Labour of the large majority they are going to need (over 3 terms) to move the dial significantly?
Well worth listening to the interview. He's absolutely bang on.Alan Duncan being investigated by Conservative Party after criticising fellow Tories for Israel support
Sir Alan, a former government minister, called for his fellow Conservatives Lord Polak, Lord Pickles and Tom Tugendhat to face repercussions over their support of Israel on LBC on Thursday.
A Conservative Party spokesperson said: "Following his comments on LBC this morning, Alan Duncan has been informed in writing that he is under investigation by the party."
Investigations of this kind can take a few weeks, and can result in a member being expelled from the party.
Speaking on LBC's Nick Ferrari at Breakfast, Sir Alan also called for arms sales to Israel to be stopped "immediately".
"I think that anything in support of what is becoming a total catastrophe in Gaza is morally unacceptable and what we have to accept is it’s not just what they’re doing now is wrong – it’s what Israel has been doing for years has been wrong because the Israeli defence does not follow international law," he said.
"It has been backing and supporting illegal settlers in the West Bank who steal Palestinian land and it is that land theft, that annexation of Palestine, which is the origin of the problem, which has given rise to the Hamas atrocity and the battles we’re seeing."
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/alan-duncan-investigated-conservative-party-israel/
Wow, he did not hold back, sliced everyone in the Tory, but not only that, he put every IDF friend in Labour including their leader to shame.Well worth listening to the interview. He's absolutely bang on.
Never thought a veteran Tory politician would be the voice of reason (putting to shame the pathetic apologist stance from Labour). And I'm glad he named and shamed those Tory MPs and Lords.
How is the producer not telling Nick Ferrari to stop breathing like an ape into the mic? It’s impossible to listen to the fella with headphones on. He does it every day.Wow, he did not hold back, sliced everyone in the Tory, but not only that, he put every IDF friend in Labour including their leader to shame.
What this means is that Sunak is closer to grasping the key issue than Starmer and the Labour Party. Wonderful.
She's a total moron, but neither book has a stars and stripes flag on it.She even got the books wrong. Holding up the one with the Union Flag on when she said The United States and the one with The Star and Stripes when she said The UK.
Check again. Maybe not stars, but if you don't want to clutch at straws is clearly the US stripesShe's a total moron, but neither book has a stars and stripes flag on it.
Don’t you understand? Starmer has to avoid saying anything that could potentially upset anyone at all. It’s not his fault.What this means is that Sunak is closer to grasping the key issue than Starmer and the Labour Party. Wonderful.
Well worth listening to the interview. He's absolutely bang on.
Never thought a veteran Tory politician would be the voice of reason (putting to shame the pathetic apologist stance from Labour). And I'm glad he named and shamed those Tory MPs and Lords.
Wow, he did not hold back, sliced everyone in the Tory, but not only that, he put every IDF friend in Labour including their leader to shame.
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Fair enough, but if Labour doesn't get your vote then (and its not clear from your comments what they would have to do to get your vote) it sounds like you may not be voting for anybody...... who actually has a chance of winning overall (that is if you are ruling out the Tories).The way I see it, I'm not voting for Labour by default, I'm not a Labour member and I never will be a member to any party. I'm not ruling out voting Labour but as it stands I'm leaning against them. For me I'll just look at a combination of the local candidates and what the manifesto's are decide based on that.
I won't vote Tory or any other right wing group but I'll consider all other options. I'm just not going to vote Labour based on greater good concept that they may make things better over the next 10 years, I don't believe in any party that much to be giving them a vote based on that.
I would be pretty pissed off if I was King Charles or Aston Martin being used in political campaigning by the Tories
Chris Nolan there too.I would be pretty pissed off if I was King Charles or Aston Martin being used in political campaigning by the Tories
EDIT and the English football team, I didnt spot them initially hiding at the bottom
Maybe he should make a movie about how the Tories have fecked the country!Chris Nolan there too.
I do generally agree with the premise but I personally don't believe I owe the Labour party anything to have a guaranteed vote from me. I may well decide Labour is the best party for me to vote for but I think political parties relying on certain demographics to vote for them by default is a dangerous game and potentially leaves those groups unhappy that the party doesn't do much for them.Fair enough, but if Labour doesn't get your vote then (and its not clear from your comments what they would have to do to get your vote) it sounds like you may not be voting for anybody...... who actually has a chance of winning overall (that is if you are ruling out the Tories).
I suppose you may have a local candidate who is a good constituency MP and it would not matter what the candidates politics are, you would vote for them. That's your right of course, but for the uncommitted, Labour offers not only the option of 'not being Tory' and of course 'a change is as good as a rest' (my old mum use to say), but also realistically they are the only party with a strong enough potential majority to move the dial in favour of ordinary folk; who after 14 years of Tory rule, desperately need a government that will represent the needs of the majority and not the elite, or the ones that can shout the loudest.
Yes, I can understand that, I was a member of the Labour party (in my Youth) and even then didn't vote blindly for the party (even though my father did). I do think Starmer is trying to harness voters who would not be natural labour people and in so doing is risking the left leaning element, because he can see maybe once in a lifetime opportunity to move the dial.... A 'super majority'at the next GE, that would get reduced over two or three terms, but keep his government in power long enough to change the course of history of the British working populace, as did the post WW2 labour government with the NHS Act and the Education Act, that empowered millions of ordinary folk, me among them.I do generally agree with the premise but I personally don't believe I owe the Labour party anything to have a guaranteed vote from me. I may well decide Labour is the best party for me to vote for but I think political parties relying on certain demographics to vote for them by default is a dangerous game and potentially leaves those groups unhappy that the party doesn't do much for them.
Literally all of this only exists as your gut feeling though. You're constantly in this thread explaining the 4D chess that Starmer is playing, based on nothing but your say so and what a party did decades ago.Yes, I can understand that, I was a member of the Labour party (in my Youth) and even then didn't vote blindly for the party (even though my father did). I do think Starmer is trying to harness voters who would not be natural labour people and in so doing is risking the left leaning element, because he can see maybe once in a lifetime opportunity to move the dial.... A 'super majority'at the next GE, that would get reduced over two or three terms, but keep his government in power long enough to change the course of history of the British working populace, as did the post WW2 labour government with the NHS Act and the Education Act, that empowered millions of ordinary folk, me among them.
"According to Brand Finance's 2024 Global Soft Power Index, the UK has retained second place behind the US and has increased its score since 2023."
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The Dark Right!Maybe he should make a movie about how the Tories have fecked the country!
Worth a go just once though, right? What’s the worst that can happen? Can always take it back next time.The way I see it, I'm not voting for Labour by default, I'm not a Labour member and I never will be a member to any party. I'm not ruling out voting Labour but as it stands I'm leaning against them. For me I'll just look at a combination of the local candidates and what the manifesto's are decide based on that.
I won't vote Tory or any other right wing group but I'll consider all other options. I'm just not going to vote Labour based on greater good concept that they may make things better over the next 10 years, I don't believe in any party that much to be giving them a vote based on that.
They both look like Union Jack flags to me. They have the same angles.Check again. Maybe not stars, but if you don't want to clutch at straws is clearly the US stripes
One is definitely the Stars and Stripes.They both look like Union Jack flags to me. They have the same angles.
most people agree they deserved to win the last world cup. a lot of people actually refuse to recognise any other winner.English football team
The one in her right hand looks like red and white stripes to me.She's a total moron, but neither book has a stars and stripes flag on it.
I subscribed to that myself a year or two ago. I knew Starmer wasn't as left leaning as I am or wanted a Labour leader to be, but I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.Im sick of the "you should vote for this to not get the other one". The "useful" vote. Is shitty to guilt-trap you to vote for a party/person that doesn't represent and even go against your values and it only propagates the bipartidism that exist in any big western country
Who ever advocates for this are a big part of the problem that we have shitty representatives because they don't feel threatened. They are all part of the establishment and if they win they will be comfortably in the government and if they lose they will be comfortably in the opposition. Never out
They both use this same photo, or at least photos from the same session. It's a union flag.One is definitely the Stars and Stripes.
Huh, wonder if they edited it deliberately cos it defo looked like the US on the book.They both use this same photo, or at least photos from the same session. It's a union flag.