Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)

Sack or Keep OLE?


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That poll is shocking :lol: We need a real manager or else we can't be a top side, and we can't compete for the league or the CL. Why the hell should we keep this amateur apart from sentimental reasons? Nobody has a clue but it's Ole so you're just gonna blindly back him :houllier:
 

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That poll is shocking :lol: We need a real manager or else we can't be a top side, and we can't compete for the league or the CL. Why the hell should we keep this amateur apart from sentimental reasons? Nobody has a clue but it's Ole so you're just gonna blindly back him :houllier:
Do you remember the 4/5 years ago we appointed a "real manager" and even after that we apppointed a serial winner. He left the squad so far behind being a top side it was a joke. The reason why people give him the chance is because the club looks like it is making better decisions, we can compete against the very best.
There is no blind backing. In the league since Ole came in, he has won more games than any other team except City and Pool.
 

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Does any team maintain same intensity for 90mins? That team must be tested for doping then.
I wonder if Fred gets tested regularly? It's unbelievable how he keeps it up. I am not saying he is doped but it's incredible how he runs for the whole 90 plus minutes.
 

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Do you remember the 4/5 years ago we appointed a "real manager" and even after that we apppointed a serial winner. He left the squad so far behind being a top side it was a joke. The reason why people give him the chance is because the club looks like it is making better decisions, we can compete against the very best.
There is no blind backing. In the league since Ole came in, he has won more games than any other team except City and Pool.
Do you genuinely believe he can challenge for the league? How about the CL? And if not, then surely it makes more sense to get a suitable manager in sooner than later so we can progress towards these goals...
 

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Do you genuinely believe he can challenge for the league? How about the CL? And if not, then surely it makes more sense to get a suitable manager in sooner than later so we can progress towards these goals...
Which manager will challenge the league with these players?

We need to recruit well, under Ole we have done so, what makes you think he cannot get 2/3 good signings this summer so we can probably challenge in two years.
 

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Do you genuinely believe he can challenge for the league? How about the CL? And if not, then surely it makes more sense to get a suitable manager in sooner than later so we can progress towards these goals...
Unfortunately for you, the team is playing too good right now that a manager change will be considered.

Must suck that we're playing well.
 
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I think he should be judged at the same yardstick of others ie CL qualifications. If he makes it then he DESERVES to be here.
 

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That poll is shocking :lol: We need a real manager or else we can't be a top side, and we can't compete for the league or the CL. Why the hell should we keep this amateur apart from sentimental reasons? Nobody has a clue but it's Ole so you're just gonna blindly back him :houllier:
Who had you in mind?
 

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Our team can't maintain the same intensity for 90 mins that's how the players are not at peak fitness.
So just because the players fitness arguably has improved a lot in 12 months - but they aren't all able to run around like Ji Sung Park for 90 minutes we should fire the manager.
 

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Seriously though:
Remove the poll as it is not relevant now. New poll or no poll, please.
"I don't like the poll - people don't change their minds quick enough!".

We basically just got this new poll - with a 3rd option. And the results came out pretty close to what we left on the old in-out-poll. Let the poll stay and enjoy the ride, either your backing Ole or not. I've been behind him all season. He took a huge chance when we sold Fellaini mid-season, but Fellaini didn't fit his style of play. Then we took another huge chance when we sold Lukaku, to gamble on Martial and Rashford.
It seems to be some thought behind the players we bring in. Even the loanee from China looked good.
 

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He is very lucky the season ended as it's now. He is not going to get the sack now for sure. What happens when next season around December or so we are not in the top 4? If we are in the top 4 then obviously he is going to be there. But if not we will start this saga once again? I personally don't think he is a top coach and I don't think he is going to get us into the top 3 or win a major trophy.
 

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He is very lucky the season ended as it's now. He is not going to get the sack now for sure. What happens when next season around December or so we are not in the top 4? If we are in the top 4 then obviously he is going to be there. But if not we will start this saga once again? I personally don't think he is a top coach and I don't think he is going to get us into the top 3 or win a major trophy.
I’m not so sure, especially while Pochettino is still waiting.

Pochettino’s silence is deafening. No doubt somebody’s going to come and get him and it will be a top club.
 
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He wouldn't be sacked this season anyway, as long as we ended up top 8. They can't talk about "cultural reboot" and all that stuff and have no meaning behind it. By the looks of it, I don't think I've read any negative comments from players having left United about Ole. I was certain that Rom didn't like him, because he was forced to play on the right, and even Rom gives Ole praise. And retrospective, Rom was probably our best RW at the time.

I guess Pereira might wanna slam Ole next season, but we all know he had his chances.
 

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We were gearing up to achieve top 4 I think. Maybe a cup or two as well. If they start the new season (if the pandemic has gone) and this season is cancelled, Oleshould stay manager till that season ends. 3 players in the summer could see us challenging for the league.
 

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That poll is shocking :lol: We need a real manager or else we can't be a top side, and we can't compete for the league or the CL. Why the hell should we keep this amateur apart from sentimental reasons? Nobody has a clue but it's Ole so you're just gonna blindly back him :houllier:
Aw, you must be hurting right now. Knowing full well that Solskjaer will be here next season, whenever that is. Oh, and in case you hadn't noticed, no-one is laughing at United anymore and we are well on the way to becoming a top side again.
 

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Aw, you must be hurting right now. Knowing full well that Solskjaer will be here next season, whenever that is. Oh, and in case you hadn't noticed, no-one is laughing at United anymore and we are well on the way to becoming a top side again.
Its so odd that some fans would love to see us nosedive just because they dont like the manager and would like to see him sacked.

Theres this really odd Mauricio Pochettino fetish on here and i dont get it because he’s a manager who hasn’t won everything and while he instills a certain philosophy and plays a certain way, for all of that, he cannot get a result in a match where it matters. His record against the other top sides is quite poor. Cant see us winning anything with him in charge, just aimlessly floating around in the top 4 at best.
 

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Its so odd that some fans would love to see us nosedive just because they dont like the manager and would like to see him sacked.

Theres this really odd Mauricio Pochettino fetish on here and i dont get it because he’s a manager who hasn’t won everything and while he instills a certain philosophy and plays a certain way, for all of that, he cannot get a result in a match where it matters. His record against the other top sides is quite poor. Cant see us winning anything with him in charge, just aimlessly floating around in the top 4 at best.
If I needed a coach for a champions league final match and I had to chose between Poch and Ole. I am going with Ole without hesitation. Poch has failed in so many big games. Ole wins most of his big games and games against tougher opponents. Poch will definitely keep us in the top 4 for years but I see Ole winning a trophy more quickly and easily than Poch.
 

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I was about to change my mind, unfortunately corona put the brakes on.

It does really look like we’re getting a lot better since Bruno came in. A lot of players have raised their game, and I have to say, it’s when faced with adversity that a person’s worth shows. Ole has tackled the downturn like a champ imo. Not even one(!) player is found under the proverbial bus.
 

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Its so odd that some fans would love to see us nosedive just because they dont like the manager and would like to see him sacked.

Theres this really odd Mauricio Pochettino fetish on here and i dont get it because he’s a manager who hasn’t won everything and while he instills a certain philosophy and plays a certain way, for all of that, he cannot get a result in a match where it matters. His record against the other top sides is quite poor. Cant see us winning anything with him in charge, just aimlessly floating around in the top 4 at best.
Yeah, I know. I just don't get it either. I honestly can't see what Poch would do better with what we have. Yeah so we lost against Burnley and Watford and got sucker-punched against Sheffield United and Villa but there's no denying Solskjaer is bringing the feelgood factor and fear back to Old Trafford. Regardless of your stance on the manager, you have to acknowledge the work he has done so far. Just a shame that our momentum has been stunted at this time but it is what it is. People just need to accept that barring some major disastrous capitulation, Solskjaer ain't going nowhere.
 

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He is very lucky the season ended as it's now. He is not going to get the sack now for sure. What happens when next season around December or so we are not in the top 4? If we are in the top 4 then obviously he is going to be there. But if not we will start this saga once again? I personally don't think he is a top coach and I don't think he is going to get us into the top 3 or win a major trophy.
I would rather say unlucky because of the form and how he got team playing. Without this break we would easly be one of favorites for Europa League. Domestic, we would have great chance for top 4 and even TheFa cup.
 

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I would rather say unlucky because of the form and how he got team playing. Without this break we would easly be one of favorites for Europa League. Domestic, we would have great chance for top 4 and even TheFa cup.
Yes I’d say unlucky. Utd looked a cert to beat Spurs but when football kicks off again it will be like a new season with all teams at near/full strength.

Unprecedented for this stage of the season.
 

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That poll is shocking :lol: We need a real manager or else we can't be a top side, and we can't compete for the league or the CL. Why the hell should we keep this amateur apart from sentimental reasons? Nobody has a clue but it's Ole so you're just gonna blindly back him :houllier:
Never understand why people think this is an effective way of making their point. Laugh at everyone that doesn't share exactly the same opinion as you as if they're idiots. It's like the general election all over again.
 

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Never understand why people think this is an effective way of making their point. Laugh at everyone that doesn't share exactly the same opinion as you as if they're idiots. It's like the general election all over again.
Yeah. Its a bit like posting that you thin unicorns are real and then using ‘everyone who doesn't think so is deluded and a tosser’ as justification.

If you chase people for justification they talk about pochettino usually, a manager with a proven track record of bottling it in big games. How do you win a cup without beating top sides? Even last year, man city won the title by one point, and their head to head with liverpool was win 1 draw 1. If people think aimlessly milling round the top 4 is where we need to be then thats about the only scenario where you appoint the guy. We had ‘proper managers’ with LVG and Jose. People act like the inability we had earlier in the season to break down smaller teams is an Ole thing, not just something we have suffered under the 3 previous managers. Short term memory
 

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Do you genuinely believe he can challenge for the league? How about the CL? And if not, then surely it makes more sense to get a suitable manager in sooner than later so we can progress towards these goals...
Yes, I genuinely believe we can challenge for the league and CL under Ole with the right players. Am I positive, 100%. Of course not. Just as you don't really know that he can't.
 

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I was about to change my mind, unfortunately corona put the brakes on.

It does really look like we’re getting a lot better since Bruno came in. A lot of players have raised their game, and I have to say, it’s when faced with adversity that a person’s worth shows. Ole has tackled the downturn like a champ imo. Not even one(!) player is found under the proverbial bus.
Same. This has gone on a little longer than the usual false dawns. There was a semblance of swagger returning. And that Derby win massively lifted the fans. Not saying we would have gone on to do this and that but like you said mind was very much about to be changed.
 

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That poll is shocking :lol: We need a real manager or else we can't be a top side, and we can't compete for the league or the CL. Why the hell should we keep this amateur apart from sentimental reasons? Nobody has a clue but it's Ole so you're just gonna blindly back him :houllier:
This 'amateur' has made a good start in clearing the deadwood, made some good signings and a great one (Bruno), overseen the team fitness improve, increased morale and put together an excellent record against the top EPL teams. His stewardship of the first team is well ahead of Moyes, LVG or Mourinho IMO.

I'd much rather have Ole than Poch, who didn't win anything at Spurs and would come here and introduce more change.

If Ole continues his trajectory, we'll challenge for the EPL within two seasons (so a four year transition, which is similar to Klopp) and will start serious building for Champions League competitiveness; even with SAF, Champions League (equivelent) success took time to achieve, it's a different level to EPL.

Sometimes people can't see a good thing in front of them.
 

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Do you genuinely believe he can challenge for the league? How about the CL? And if not, then surely it makes more sense to get a suitable manager in sooner than later so we can progress towards these goals...
I know you shouldn't attack the poster, but you deserve it based on the posts I've seen from you in multiple threads. You don't discuss you just laugh at other's opinions and clearly don't know how to debate. Your opinions on Martial are way off the mark and it's unsurprising that you have these opinions of Ole too. The fact is you clearly show you have little to no grasp of football, you don't actually care or support Manchester Utd and to top it off you come over like an immature brat.

To keep the post on the topic, yes many people myself included, believe that Ole can take us right to the top. He's quite clearly an exceptional man-manager (which is a hugely underappreciated skill). He's buying the right players and trying to build an exciting system. It has been clear since his arrival that we have been making massive strides to fix the mess that Mourinho left behind. Ultimately, football is a simple game if you can build a talented motivated squad and give them a system to perform in, you will win more football matches then you will lose and as a result, you will win trophies. Ole is well on the way to doing that!
 

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That poll is shocking :lol: We need a real manager or else we can't be a top side, and we can't compete for the league or the CL. Why the hell should we keep this amateur apart from sentimental reasons? Nobody has a clue but it's Ole so you're just gonna blindly back him :houllier:
We’ve had 2 Real mangers. Look how that turned out. This team is playing well under Ole.
 

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Was going to make a joke that we’ve not won in however many days or whatever but just checked and it’s only been 11 days! I swear it’s been about 3 weeks.

Anyway, he’s done enough to convince me. At least to be given another window. Really felt like we’d turned a corner. Mainly helped by Bruno but with another addition of quality I’m sure we’ll be in a much better position to challenge.
 

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I know you shouldn't attack the poster, but you deserve it based on the posts I've seen from you in multiple threads. You don't discuss you just laugh at other's opinions and clearly don't know how to debate. Your opinions on Martial are way off the mark and it's unsurprising that you have these opinions of Ole too. The fact is you clearly show you have little to no grasp of football, you don't actually care or support Manchester Utd and to top it off you come over like an immature brat.

To keep the post on the topic, yes many people myself included, believe that Ole can take us right to the top. He's quite clearly an exceptional man-manager (which is a hugely underappreciated skill). He's buying the right players and trying to build an exciting system. It has been clear since his arrival that we have been making massive strides to fix the mess that Mourinho left behind. Ultimately, football is a simple game if you can build a talented motivated squad and give them a system to perform in, you will win more football matches then you will lose and as a result, you will win trophies. Ole is well on the way to doing that!
Great reply and that clown, obviously not a United supporter, really deserves attacking. Well done.
 

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I know you shouldn't attack the poster, but you deserve it based on the posts I've seen from you in multiple threads. You don't discuss you just laugh at other's opinions and clearly don't know how to debate. Your opinions on Martial are way off the mark and it's unsurprising that you have these opinions of Ole too. The fact is you clearly show you have little to no grasp of football, you don't actually care or support Manchester Utd and to top it off you come over like an immature brat.

To keep the post on the topic, yes many people myself included, believe that Ole can take us right to the top. He's quite clearly an exceptional man-manager (which is a hugely underappreciated skill). He's buying the right players and trying to build an exciting system. It has been clear since his arrival that we have been making massive strides to fix the mess that Mourinho left behind. Ultimately, football is a simple game if you can build a talented motivated squad and give them a system to perform in, you will win more football matches then you will lose and as a result, you will win trophies. Ole is well on the way to doing that!
Great post, beautifully put!
 

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Im a very decisive person and its very hard to change my mind yet Ole has done so effortlessly. Big reason for that are his signings. Each of them have been very good and have been put to good use. Id also say Im a bit biased towards him also because he is a former legend for us. Ive always wanted him to succeed here desperately just like how Chelsea fans are probably rooting for lampard. He also found a way to get rid of lukaku for a good fee and enlighten the atmosphere after mourinhos reign. I dont think lukaku is terrible but i dont believe him leading the line can ever lead to the greatest honors. It was always a matter of how are we going to move him on when we were done transitioning and Ole did that immediately when he got the opportunity. He's also done well given out luck with injuries and having to win games with Lingard/pereira pulling the strings. He could have done more but fortunately none of our other rivals took advantage of all the points we managed to drop.

I dont think he is a top coach yet but he is very well on the way to becoming one. Id like to see him improve his tactics because thats one area Im still very unconvinced about. At the top you just cant get through with buying quality players, you have to have some form of Identity and style. I didn't like the fact that at some point during the season he randomly adjusts his tactics to the strengths of weaker teams. I would like to see him impose his own way on teams that arent Liverpool or City. Ive always maintained even at the start that we are better than every other team bar those two and I still believe that.

When football arrives back at the end of april behind closed doors Im predicting we keep up our momentum and win most of our remaining games if not all to finish the season on a high.
 

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That poll is shocking :lol: We need a real manager or else we can't be a top side, and we can't compete for the league or the CL. Why the hell should we keep this amateur apart from sentimental reasons? Nobody has a clue but it's Ole so you're just gonna blindly back him :houllier:
This is pure Scouse bait
 

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Why is the poll lacking the one option that makes this an actual poll? "Let Ole Finish the season, evaulate once its completed". Remove the middle option and replace it with this. Now you have 1 stay and 2 fire options. This is silly.

That being said, Ole's at the wheel.
 

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Do you genuinely believe he can challenge for the league? How about the CL? And if not, then surely it makes more sense to get a suitable manager in sooner than later so we can progress towards these goals...
Ole have beaten plenty of top teams, so I dont doubt we would have success in the CL. He has fantastic results against the best teames, and top managers. Our problem have been creativity to unlock defensive "smaller teams". And after getting Bruno, it seams we are on our way to solve that problem to.