The transfer window is blue balls and Fellaini is porn. And who doesn't like porn?
Sign him up.
Sign him up.
If we don't get him I can see the centre parting and exposing the defence....we've won afro in!
so he'll have to duck tail in straight away.If we don't get him I can see the centre parting and exposing the defence....
but with so many midfielders, you could perm any one from fourIf we sign him they'll be saying the side hasn't seen this much curl on the ball since Becks.
Obviously he'll improve. Like any 25 year old we signMaybe, but if Moyes see's that as his future there, then who are we to argue?...Don't forget he's only 25, with scope for improvement. Infact, he's the same age as Carrick was when we signed him, and look how much he's improved, in all aspects of his game.
Why do we even need this creative player? The main thing we have to look at that will be different from last year is SAF's insistence on playing only 2 men centrally. If we play Fellaini and Carrick, with one of Cleverley, Rooney, Giggs, Kagawa, Januzaj or Lingard in front of them, them being allowed to do what they do best will increase creativity in that area. A 4-2-3-1 is the system of choice for many teams abroad, and we cannot match it without one more solid player next to Carrick. We are spoiled for choice we have so many options for the 3 behind RVP in that system, I see no desperate need for anyone else. Where we lack is someone who can sit next to Carrick and provide the base which allows the wealth of attacking talent we already have to concentrate on attacking.How would Chelsea over power us. Lamps, Ramires and Oscar v Carrick, Clev/Ando, Kagawa/Rooney, looks even at the very least to me. I meant he's a stop gap in that whilst he's better than Clev/Ando currently I don't think he's an ideal first choice united midfielder either, we'd still need a creative player if we want to actually improve for the CL. Of course with any understudy it's never ideal to lose the main man but he'd be more insurance than anything and if you get the right player no reason he can't do a job.
I mean an understudy to the holding role and then look to bring in an established creative player. Fellaini isn't going to come and be carricks understudy for over 20m he's gonna be playing with him. Yes the understudy wouldn't be as good as carrick but he's meant to be insurance now, you can't have a top quality replacement in ever area of the pitch.What do you mean.. You just said if Carrick gets injured we need an understudy to cover him, yes that would be a step down considering he is an 'understudy' however he still wouldn't be better than Fellaini so we still look weak. A creative player is not going to protect Carrick or the defense and I would rather have a 'proven' creative player which I believe/hope we are looking for.
Cleverley is a better CM than Fellaini and Evra is a better defender than Baines (except twice a season when he shits himself against Lennon).Baines and Fellaini would strengthen the squad a lot. They would probably be two of the best XI, instead of Evra and Cleverley.
No and not now!Cleverley is a better CM than Fellaini and Evra is a better defender than Baines (except twice a season when he shits himself against Lennon).
Fishing again Pete?Cleverley is a better CM than Fellaini and Evra is a better defender than Baines (except twice a season when he shits himself against Lennon).
Don't you think it's actually been both? We've had Rooney, Jones, Rafael, Park and Giggs in there at times because of the lack of both quantity and quality. Giggs fair enough has tried to re-invent himself, but as we saw last season...he's so much better putting balls in the box from the left.He doesn't really improve it though, he's just another option there, I wouldn't necessarily say he's better than Cleverley, though I guess he's a lot more likely to remain fully fit and available.
Quantity hasn't been the problem with our midfield in the last few years, quality has.
Well those were usually due to injury issues than the amount of players available, we've used midfielders in defense at times too due to injuries, after all.Don't you think it's actually been both? We've had Rooney, Jones, Rafael, Park and Giggs in there at times because of the lack of both quantity and quality. Giggs fair enough has tried to re-invent himself, but as we saw last season...he's so much better putting balls in the box from the left.
LOLI can see Eddie making a second bid of £26m for both Fellaini and Baines lol
I can see Eddie making a second bid of £26m for both Fellaini and Baines lol
I agree in the main. Nothing to expand on the Evra V Baines debate. In terms of Cleverly V Fellaini, that's a far more controversial call. In terms of United at their best playing a fast tempo one touch attacking football Cleverley is a better option than Fellaini. There 's a certainly touch and weight of pass that Cleverley is cabable of that Fellaini isn't imo.Cleverley is a better CM than Fellaini and Evra is a better defender than Baines (except twice a season when he shits himself against Lennon).
I am warming to the idea of him. Mainly because we need at least something.
Some absolute drivel in this thread today
First of all, Glaston, take your condescending tone and shove it up your fat arse. Feeling a bit high and mighty at the moment are ya?
Only one point I agree on in your post and that is that we shouldnt pay less than what Everton signed him for, considering he was a success
The rest is rubbish.. "resigned to Felliani" what does that even mean?
As for the rest of you, Moyes has said he would like to get 2 bodies into midfield, so just because we may sign Felliani, doesnt necessarily mean thats us done. I see very little wrong with our approach thus far. We tried for 2 Barca players that are absolutely top drawer, 1 followed his old coach, the 2nd decided he'd rather stay where he was for now. Theres no shame in either of those scenarios. Its not like either of them said "Manchester United? Pah! I wouldnt piss on them, dont waste my time!" or "United fans are idiots"
(though the latter i'd say "yeah, fair play")
just chill out ffs
My concern with an initial low bid is that it has proven to be completely counter productive. Considering that Moyes knows how much Everton would value their best players, which I would agree with, then why bother making a bid that Everton will not only reject, but find insulting? It all seems a bit point less, if that is the case. Time is not on our side here, if Moyes knows the value then why not make a serious bid close to what Everton would probably accept?I reckon Moyes knows more than anyone how much Everton values its players, the amount they would probably accept as a transfer fee and the negotiation strategy required. The initial low bid does not worry me at all. Im just disappointed we could not get in a more superior player.
Still needs must; Fellaini is better than what we have so does improve us, and gives Moyes 6-12 months to identify and get the player we really need to help take this sqaud to genuine world class competitiveness.
I think if he is signed it will definitely be for the first team, we already have one expensive bench warmer, we are hardly going to pay over £20m for another. Which in my view is a good thing. If what we already have is enough then surely we wouldn't be so desperate to buy. Bottom line, we have a good squad but the midfield needs improving. Cleverley does not improve it when partnering Carrick, but Fellaini will make us more solid, which may then provide us a better base to improve the overall capacity of our creative play.This is pretty much how I feel about it. Getting Fellaini is certainly preferable to getting no one.
I still think I prefer Cleverley as a partner to Carrick, Fellaini would be good as cover for Carrick. My only gripe with this transfer is that I have a feeling he won't be brought in as back up, so obviously Cleverley will be benched.
Panic buying eh. If that happens you have to question the folk left in charge of transfers. What an odd summer.We're going to end up paying more than that release clause aren't we.
If arsenal cant get cabaye I wouldnt be shocked to see them bid 20m or more for fellainiWe're going to end up paying more than that release clause aren't we.
We're going to end up paying more than that release clause aren't we.
Done.nope. We'll pay 20-22 million for Fellaini and not a penny more than 12m for Baines.
YOU CAN QUOTE ME ON THAT.
It would be stupid for the club to call a bid an insult and then accept a fee only 4-6 million higher than the original.