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Yeah, that sounds about right. What were Darmian and Schneiderlin? Missed the game. I know Memphis was #9 but I doubt he'll keep that.
I missed it too but from what I've read Darmian was something like 36 and Schneiderlin was 27. Darmian'll most likely change to 2 when Rafael goes and no idea about Schneiderlin.
 

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I missed it too but from what I've read Darmian was something like 36 and Schneiderlin was 27. Darmian'll most likely change to 2 when Rafael goes and no idea about Schneiderlin.
15 is vacant and 6 will be if Evans leaves, those can be distributed to Bastian and Morgan. Morgan was 28 today, that won't be the case permanently for sure.
 

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He is so cool receiving the ball under pressure. Will bring an enormous amount of stability to our back 4 to have an outlet like that. When in doubt, give it to the Kraut! Love this guy!!! Now, he just needs some fitness cause he was wilting in the last 10 minute...
 

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He oozes class. It's incredible to watch him create space for himself and always seems like he has bags of time on the ball. Positionally impressive defensively too. Not that any of this is a surprise of course.
 

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One day we will play a diamond of him, Carrick, Morgan and Herrera.

His calmness on the ball and vision is great. Obviously needs a few games to get back into it (and for his team to understand his actual ability imo).
 

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He seemed to have all the time in the world when on the ball. I loved his performance, different class.

You could see his leadership skills yesterday too. I can't wait for the next pre-season game.
 

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Hmmm, I see he's getting rave reviews. I'm not so convinced though (and no I don't have an agenda before anyone starts). He showed plenty of quality, but still left me with some doubts.

First of all, he was fantastic on the ball, obviously. Great touch, fantastic range of passing, calm under pressure, showed leadership etc etc But physically, I still he have serious doubts. He looked very slow and cumbersome, and looked to be struggling to get up and down the pitch (especially compared to Morgan in the first half). He also looked absolutely knackered after half an hour. Now hopefully thats just a lack of fitness/match rhythm~(Carrick and Rooney also looked well off the pace), but if its not, and he's lost his legs (for want of a better phrase) then I think the only way to use him in the PL will be as a #6. Because he will get found out very quickly playing box to box in the PL if his legs have gone. As a #6 though (especially with Morgan and Herrera providing the 'legs') he should have the freedom to control the matches.

But yeah, seeing him in a United shirt was fecking weird :lol:. I thought it would feel less surreal once we saw him play, but if anything it felt more surreal.
 

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It was like watching Scholes in the latter part of his career, just the whole touch, calmness, the awareness of space, the range of passing.
 

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Was clearly a level above. Just oozes class. Will take a bit to get up to speed as he only just started training but I wouldn't be too worried about that. If he stays fit, he's the best midfielder in the league without a doubt.
 

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Hmmm, I see he's getting rave reviews. I'm not so convinced though (and no I don't have an agenda before anyone starts). He showed plenty of quality, but still left me with some doubts.

First of all, he was fantastic on the ball, obviously. Great touch, fantastic range of passing, calm under pressure, showed leadership etc etc But physically, I still he have serious doubts. He looked very slow and cumbersome, and looked to be struggling to get up and down the pitch (especially compared to Morgan in the first half). He also looked absolutely knackered after half an hour. Now hopefully thats just a lack of fitness/match rhythm~(Carrick and Rooney also looked well off the pace), but if its not, and he's lost his legs (for want of a better phrase) then I think the only way to use him in the PL will be as a #6. Because he will get found out very quickly playing box to box in the PL if his legs have gone. As a #6 though (especially with Morgan and Herrera providing the 'legs') he should have the freedom to control the matches.

But yeah, seeing him in a United shirt was fecking weird :lol:. I thought it would feel less surreal once we saw him play, but if anything it felt more surreal.
Not sure about this, but hasn't Morgan had two more weeks training than Bastian? I was under the impression Saints went back to training a week before our lads gathered at Carrington, so he had a good two weeks under his belt when he joined up with the team in the US. Bastian has just trained a few times in the US, fitness will come back. I doubt his legs have gone, but we'll see.
 

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As Heynckes said, "Schweinsteiger should be mentioned in the same breath as Beckenbauer and Gerd Müller." Nobody has been more influential in German football than him and Lottar Matthäus ever since.
 

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Hmmm, I see he's getting rave reviews. I'm not so convinced though (and no I don't have an agenda before anyone starts). He showed plenty of quality, but still left me with some doubts.

First of all, he was fantastic on the ball, obviously. Great touch, fantastic range of passing, calm under pressure, showed leadership etc etc But physically, I still he have serious doubts. He looked very slow and cumbersome, and looked to be struggling to get up and down the pitch (especially compared to Morgan in the first half). He also looked absolutely knackered after half an hour. Now hopefully thats just a lack of fitness/match rhythm~(Carrick and Rooney also looked well off the pace), but if its not, and he's lost his legs (for want of a better phrase) then I think the only way to use him in the PL will be as a #6. Because he will get found out very quickly playing box to box in the PL if his legs have gone. As a #6 though (especially with Morgan and Herrera providing the 'legs') he should have the freedom to control the matches.

But yeah, seeing him in a United shirt was fecking weird :lol:. I thought it would feel less surreal once we saw him play, but if anything it felt more surreal.
I think it's better to wait for a few more matches before making projections on how he'll be physically in the PL.
 

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He was good but Schneiderlin in the first half was better. Still, I'm just grateful we have both of them.
 

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Hmmm, I see he's getting rave reviews. I'm not so convinced though (and no I don't have an agenda before anyone starts). He showed plenty of quality, but still left me with some doubts.

First of all, he was fantastic on the ball, obviously. Great touch, fantastic range of passing, calm under pressure, showed leadership etc etc But physically, I still he have serious doubts. He looked very slow and cumbersome, and looked to be struggling to get up and down the pitch (especially compared to Morgan in the first half). He also looked absolutely knackered after half an hour. Now hopefully thats just a lack of fitness/match rhythm~(Carrick and Rooney also looked well off the pace), but if its not, and he's lost his legs (for want of a better phrase) then I think the only way to use him in the PL will be as a #6. Because he will get found out very quickly playing box to box in the PL if his legs have gone. As a #6 though (especially with Morgan and Herrera providing the 'legs') he should have the freedom to control the matches.

But yeah, seeing him in a United shirt was fecking weird :lol:. I thought it would feel less surreal once we saw him play, but if anything it felt more surreal.
He's just come off his injury. He said he is fine now, and I believe him. When he hasn't been in form he has never stated the opposite. He knows his body more than anyone else. Give him 2 months of full match time and he will be tremendous.
 

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It was like watching Scholes in the latter part of his career, just the whole touch, calmness, the awareness of space, the range of passing.
This. Just caught up with the game and the awareness level he has is on another planet, reminds me of Scholes so much in the sense that players get close to the ball, but never close enough to win it. He always turns or moves the ball to the perfect position to shield it, then moved it on quickly and accurately.

There was 1 part where a player closed him down from behind quickly, and with a quick look over his should saw him coming and dodged the tackle. Things like that are so under appreciated, it's amazing to watch. It's going to be great watching him.
 

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Hmmm, I see he's getting rave reviews. I'm not so convinced though (and no I don't have an agenda before anyone starts). He showed plenty of quality, but still left me with some doubts.

First of all, he was fantastic on the ball, obviously. Great touch, fantastic range of passing, calm under pressure, showed leadership etc etc But physically, I still he have serious doubts. He looked very slow and cumbersome, and looked to be struggling to get up and down the pitch (especially compared to Morgan in the first half). He also looked absolutely knackered after half an hour. Now hopefully thats just a lack of fitness/match rhythm~(Carrick and Rooney also looked well off the pace), but if its not, and he's lost his legs (for want of a better phrase) then I think the only way to use him in the PL will be as a #6. Because he will get found out very quickly playing box to box in the PL if his legs have gone. As a #6 though (especially with Morgan and Herrera providing the 'legs') he should have the freedom to control the matches.

But yeah, seeing him in a United shirt was fecking weird :lol:. I thought it would feel less surreal once we saw him play, but if anything it felt more surreal.
first game of pre season and he hasn't trained, ffs :lol:
 

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He also was literally still on holiday when we signed him compared to Morgan who was already training. Club America are well into fitness. He will be fine.
 

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http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...iger-excited-by-Manchester-United-future.aspx

Manchester United summer signing Bastian Schweinsteiger admits he is excited about his future at the club after making his unofficial debut during the 1-0 win over Club America in Seattle on Thursday evening.

The Germany international and World Cup winner joined the Reds from Bayern Munich earlier this month and has been training with Louis van Gaal’s squad for almost a week. In that time, the 30-year-old has been settling into the group and learning more about United on Tour 2015, presented by Aon.

Schweinsteiger made his first appearance as a half-time substitute against Club America at CenturyLink Field, helping the Reds cement a comfortable victory against the Mexican side. ManUtd.com conducted an exclusive interview with him afterwards, and this is what he had to say…

You have just made your debut for Manchester United. How did it feel?
It was great, an absolutely great feeling to wear the jersey and I think we also played well and I am looking forward to playing more games, especially at Old Trafford.

What emotions were you feeling at half-time, when you were about to come on?
I was more excited and not so much nervous. I was excited to see how it is and also about my fitness. It was a good test for myself, to see how it is. I felt okay so that was a good sign.

How was your fitness during your 45 minutes on the pitch? Did you feel sharp?
Yes, I felt quite sharp. In the last 10 minutes, it was a little bit harder to breath
. But especially the first 30 to 35 minutes, I think, it was good.

It was a competitive match, with plenty of tackles. Did you feel we deserved to win?
It is true that this Club America team was very aggressive and also every player was good on the ball, so it was not so easy. I don’t know if it was similar to the Premier League teams, I don’t think so, but it was a good test for us and what we practised in the last few days. We wanted to have control of the game, to stay compact and I think we did well.

Another of our new signings, Morgan Schneiderlin, scored the winning goal with a first-half header. Were you impressed with his performance, and how good a player is he?
I think he was very good and he is a very good player. If you see the goal, he did it well with no foul and a nice header. I think he is a really good player and, also, for me, what is more important, is that he is a good boy.

Memphis Depay and Matteo Darmian also made their debuts. Did they catch your eye?
I think both did well. I mean, Memphis is an unbelievable talent and he has so much quality and I am sure we will have a lot of fun with him on the pitch. Matteo is a typical Italian but I love that! You can see that he is tactical, he is very good and he is so fast. I think these two are very good transfers for Manchester United.

You played with quite a young team in the second half. Were you impressed with some of the young players on show, and did you enjoy being the experienced player?
Yeah I enjoyed it a lot because to watch young players, how they are and how they played with [Andreas] Pereira, Jesse [Lingard] and [James] Wilson. They are all very good players. I have seen a lot of young players in my career and I have to say that these young players are very, very good. If they are doing well in the future then Manchester United could be happy.

Manchester United has a rich history of promoting young players from the Academy to the first team. Do you think that is important in the modern era?
Absolutely, and especially here at Manchester United. When they come out of the Manchester United youth team, I think it is very important for the supporters. Of course you need a little mix of youth and experience in your team, but it is important English players and especially from the Manchester United youth team.

The fans were very excited about your debut and cheered your every touch. Did you enjoy the atmosphere inside the stadium?
Absolutely! For me, it is everything new and it is a little bit different. I have to say that everything is well organised, first of all. The atmosphere in the stadium was great. With Munich, we always went to China and to Asia. Here it is a little bit different and I enjoyed it a lot.
Many noticed that on here. I'm glad he's honest about it. :) It's expected considering he played a limited amount of games last season, he's a big guy and this was only his first week back in training. Bastian will be such a beast this season. :drool:
 

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Another of our new signings, Morgan Schneiderlin, scored the winning goal with a first-half header. Were you impressed with his performance, and how good a player is he?

I think he was very good and he is a very good player. If you see the goal, he did it well with no foul and a nice header. I think he is a really good player and, also, for me, what is more important, is that he is a good boy.

FFS Schweinsteiger, he is 25 years old :lol:
 

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As Heynckes said, "Schweinsteiger should be mentioned in the same breath as Beckenbauer and Gerd Müller." Nobody has been more influential in German football than him and Lottar Matthäus ever since.
Ballack was easily more influential than him.
 

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Ballack was easily more influential than him.
If you consider longevity, yes. But I don't think Ballack ever played a tournament as great as Schweinsteiger in 2010, never had a standout game like Schweini's World Cup final in 2014 nor did Ballack ever play a season as great as Schweinsteiger in 12/13. Both were a bit different anyway, could have been fantastic to watch them together in 2010, if not for that injury which basically ended Ballack's career.

If Sammer counts as a midfielder (and he kinda should), he tops both Ballack and Schweinsteiger as the most influential German midfielder since Matthäus anyway.
 

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If you consider longevity, yes. But I don't think Ballack ever played a tournament as great as Schweinsteiger in 2010, never had a standout game like Schweini's World Cup final in 2014 nor did Ballack ever play a season as great as Schweinsteiger in 12/13. Both were a bit different anyway, could have been fantastic to watch them together in 2010, if not for that injury which basically ended Ballack's career.

If Sammer counts as a midfielder (and he kinda should), he tops both Ballack and Schweinsteiger as the most influential German midfielder since Matthäus anyway.
Ballack's 02 and 08 was of a higher standard that bastians 2010, especially the former. His last season at leverkusen was better than anything Bastian ever did at club level. Ballack had many stand out games better than bastians final vs argentina. His own game vs argentina in 06 comes to mind. Slightly different, but ballack was easily superior, both in terms of peak performance and longevity. He was a player who could run the show and still be the difference maker. The team success of German and Bayern In recent years seems to be clouding your judgement.
 

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The team success of German and Bayern In recent years seems to be clouding your judgement.
No, not at all. It seems more like your 'everything was better in the late 90's/early 00's' theme is clouding your judgement and you simply can't appreciate standout performances from the past 5-10 years, let alone judge them fairly.
 
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