Plus if you just watch them play Fletcher just looks much stiffer than both Wilson and Rashford.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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The good thing about him being introduced late in the season is that he can be played in every game without any fear of burnout. Martial has played a little too much imo but we haven't got the players to be able to afford him a break.
Martial is a completely different animal to the usual 20 year old though, both physically and mentally, so I actually don't have a problem with him being played when available. Good point on Rashford, it's definitely for the best that he was introduced late both for us and him.
Is there a chance he will go to the Euros? Very competitive for place in his position so I doubt it but if he fires us to top four and an FA Cup he can't be ignored.
Absolutely not imo. There are too many strikers available atm. I guess there is small chance if Sturridge doesn't make the squad but even then, I expect Rooney, Kane, Vardy to be the 3 strikers to be picked.
Many have cited the fact that he's been given a run of games as to why he's had an unfair advantage over the likes of Wilson and Keane, but that is because he's earned it.
He's started game over Jesse and Memphis in that run, who are older, have bigger reputations and cost a lot of money in Memphis' case.
Fair play to him.
He's started game over Jesse and Memphis in that run, who are older, have bigger reputations and cost a lot of money in Memphis' case.
Fair play to him.
They're different positions though so it doesn't really have to be one or the other. One is a Striker and one is Midfielder. Let's keep them both in our squad I say. I don't see why Lingard should be shown the door.
Great passionate performance by the lad yesterday. He just ran and ran. I bet his legs were full of cramp back in the dressing room whilst Demichelis' mind was filled with nightmares!
It's dangerous to say anything based on such a small sample size, but I'll say this: He's got the right head for being thrown in at the deep end.
Certainly should be our starting number 9 from now on. It would be a travesty if Rooney would just walk back into the team over him.
He will be and should be ignored. Kane and Vardy are firing their teams to the title for the full 9 month season. Rooney is the captain and Studge (sturridge) is class when fit. In fact I would be happy if Rashford became as good as Studge in the future.
Especially since we're used of being let down the past few seasons.
He must be such a boss at his school now. I thought footballers leave school at like 16 but it seems he still goes. Imagine going into secondary school having scored the winner in the city derby playing against multimillionaires and players from your national team.
While also making a fecking huge amount of dosh yourself
I thought a player having another player "in their pocket" was a defensive term? A sign that they've marked them really well by being so close to them all game? Surely a striker would want to escape from a defender, and would want separation from them? Have I understood the phrase wrong in the past?
Just curious as it pertains to Marcus.
But what do people consider a good enough sample size?
With Kiko, he had a close title saving cameos, some sub appearances, and burnt out. Wilson had a couple of games in a row. And even in those, I don't remember any of them looking as good as Marcus.
But no other youngster had been given a start in 6-8 in a row like Marcus right? How sale size is continuing to grow, and he is growing with it. Just wondering what else people need to see before he is fully endorsed.
But what do people consider a good enough sample size?
With Kiko, he had a close title saving cameos, some sub appearances, and burnt out. Wilson had a couple of games in a row. And even in those, I don't remember any of them looking as good as Marcus.
But no other youngster had been given a start in 6-8 in a row like Marcus right? How sale size is continuing to grow, and he is growing with it. Just wondering what else people need to see before he is fully endorsed.
I'd rather he didn't, but there's a chance he could go. I remember Aaron Lennon and Theo Walcott going to tournaments at the same age. I can't remember if Theo played at that first one, but I remember Lennon coming on as an impact sub with his ridiculous pace. It's a longshot, but I would be overly surprised of Rashford is taken as a different option. He's looked good from the right wing as well, burning down the outside, and he's already a better finisher than Sterling.
You just don't know who is going to get injured between now and June either.
You just don't know who is going to get injured between now and June either.
You're not alone. That's how I've always seen it.
You're correct. A more fitting sentence would be Rashford had him on toast
It depends what conclusion you want to draw. I've seen enough to know that he's got the potential to be very good, but I'd say you need at least half a season, if not more, to come to the conclusion that he's going to make it. For example, I'm willing to say Martial is going to be an absolute top player. For Rashford, I'd say it's probably a bit too soon.
Between 6 months and a full season for me. There have been so many players, specially young ones who have been incredible for a short period of time only for them to be truly worse than what they showed during that time. Consistency and time always separates the good ones from the not so good.
That's extremely fair. I have more of an issue with saying the kid can't play than I do saying he is the messiah. Which I'm not saying he is.
For me, one of the main differences between him and others, is the fact that United are relying in the kid as much as they are and I can't remember that happening to another kid in a very long time.
The performances he's put in with the amount of pressure on him since the team is not as sharp is what leads me to the amount of positivety I have towards him in the future.
I thought the pressure Martial was under was too much for his first season but it is even bigger for Rashford.
I think so too. But it's comparable in any case, and both have dealt with it very well.
The counter argument to that is that Rashford's got nothing to lose and everything to win, since so many of our senior players have been so shite.
I would say at least a season and a half, as you'll recall form Kane everybody kept worrying he could be a one season wonder and then at the start of this season a lot of people had decided he was if you look at the Kane thread. Obviously you will have a very strong idea well before then but players can overplay and underplay for pretty long stretches so it is hard to draw anything conclusive just based off one season. Rashford is well below the threshold for saying anything definitive and I would be happy at this point for him to have a loan next season either at a title fighting championship team or a lower premier league club as long as they can guarantee him minutes, which hopefully we won't be able to do due to transfers.
Shows you how underrated young footballers are in English football. Its made out like the prem is some ridiculously high level of football thats borderline impossible to get thrown in and adjust immediately yet here we have a bunch of young players from the academy who are doing better than their more experienced counterparts. Im of the opinion that many potential prem careers have gone down the drain cause of managers without a clue.
And sometimes you can get over cautious with how you handle kids, he is soing the business in the first team and has given us something different to our other forwards so omo we should handle him in the same way SAF handled Ronaldo. We should play him when possible and rest him when necessary so that he doesn't burn out. Signing a reliabke veteran like Zlatan would also pressure on him and Martial, allowing them to grow at their own pace.
You are right. "In the pocket" generally refers to a defender, keeping an striker at bay. In this case, a defender was constantly harried by a striker, so much, that he almost went to blows with him. (Penalty call). So, the phrase has been used to describe the frustration of the defender.
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Be interesting to see how he gets on in Holland or the Championship next season.
Definitely, but its possible he is on the crest of a wave at the minute and opinions on him could flip after a bad stretch of games as they have with numerous players, just look at how much the opinions on depay have changed through the season. It will be a different matter when he's not a bonus player from the under 18's but considered actually part of the furniture, that adds a lot of responsibility and pressure to him. Its also fair to say regardless of what we want Rooney will walk back into the team so his minutes are about to reduce considerably I would imagine, its in that scenario I would rather have a loan than what James Wilson was doing for the first half of the season, whatever that was.
Van Gaal is gone at the end of the season and any decent manager won't take shit from Rooney so Rashford will play, between the U21s, COC, Europa and the PL he sill get enough games.
Zero chance that'll happen now. He'll be given a year as a squad member, and if it isn't working out end of next year he'll be loaned.
If Jose comes next season and spends tonnes of money, it's a possibility.
Doubt it. He's made too much of an impact, and the fact he can play wide means he'll get another season before we consider loaning him.
Personally think of Jose does come, then there will be some agreements in place to keep with the traditions of the club using academy players and Rashford will be up there in terms of choice. Not only that but, have to think at some point Jose has learned, that you can only get so much out of mercenaries. He'll want players around that fight for the badge - and as much as I don't care for Terry (and Lampard to a degree), those are the types he needs to have in the squad. Also, am sure he is smarting from the bad decision of letting Lukaku go, so will be hesitant to let a player like Rashford leave on loan or otherwise.
They have no idea do they...
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