Played some good passes under pressure. I have hope for him in midfield.
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Herrera was atrocious today. (Again)
I have nothing against Rooney, but he should be nowhere near the midfield. We've spent nearly £80m on midfield reinforcements and still insist on playing a striker there. Only Manchester United. Truly unique.
I kinda works when you play a midfielder in the midfield and so on and so forth.
But no?
A washed up CF in CM
A washed RW at RB
A Fellaini in everywhere and nowhere
When your captain performs at this level, what do you expect form the other players?
Good game again Rooney, looking forward to adding someone like Sanches in midfield alongside him next year that can drive past and open up more space.
Better in the second half than the first but I think one of the reasons we struggle to maintain tempo is the midfield 3 are all slow and not very athletic so they can't keep it up for 90 minutes. Basically Rooney is doing a job in there but no top team should have a has-been striker as their creative fulcrum in midfield.
I think he's been decent there, just a shite captain.
0 clearances, 0 interceptions, 1 tackle today. - "He's played well".
Even de Gea managed 1 clearance today, Mata also had one in 30 minutes.
In the last 4 games he's had just 1 interception - against Everton, 0 clearances, and 6 tackles(not neccesarily succesful ones). In 4 games!!!!
I would say this just sums up that he has no idea how to play as a midfielder.
But aparently, by some, he's played really well in these past 4 games in midfield.
Even de Gea managed 1 clearance today, Mata also had one in 30 minutes.
In the last 4 games he's had just 1 interception - against Everton, 0 clearances, and 6 tackles(not neccesarily succesful ones). In 4 games!!!!
I would say this just sums up that he has no idea how to play as a midfielder.
But aparently, by some, he's played really well in these past 4 games in midfield.
When he's not behaving like a child, he can be quite decent
Well those stats are bollocks for a start considering he cleared one off the line against Everton, he also made more than one tackle today
I think on the whole he was good today. Could have looked after the ball a bit better, at times, but I think he was good. He also looks a lot better on the ball in tight space. Can't remember the minute, but he riddled away from two players and played a nice pass. Some really good moments in the game. If whatever manager's here next season decides to play him in centre mid, then we need to look at who we play him with.
With Fellaini, he seems to be the more reserved 8, who will get on the ball and try and dictate, whilst Fellaini will be the to get forward more.
What will suit him more, though? I would like to see how he get in the 'Fellaini role', where he has more license to get into the box. Doing this, will allow us to play someone next to him who can control the game, i.e. Modric, Verratti, Rakitic, etc. That said, Rooney seems to be doing a good enough job in that position since he's been there.
With Fellaini, he seems to be the more reserved 8, who will get on the ball and try and dictate, whilst Fellaini will be the to get forward more.
What will suit him more, though? I would like to see how he get in the 'Fellaini role', where he has more license to get into the box. Doing this, will allow us to play someone next to him who can control the game, i.e. Modric, Verratti, Rakitic, etc. That said, Rooney seems to be doing a good enough job in that position since he's been there.
Now this is the truth! Rooney would still have the legs to get into the box ala lampard and I think could easily add 10 goals from the position which we haven't had in years
Anybody that says, "he did fine", "he did ok", or "good enough" as an argument to those saying hes not good enough... well is that really good enough for United?
I think this is the second games hes faded...again. I honestly think its not too much to want him to have a true influence on the game (and not just pinging a few balls to the right wing).
I think this is the second games hes faded...again. I honestly think its not too much to want him to have a true influence on the game (and not just pinging a few balls to the right wing).
He worked very hard today and it was a generally good performance. I'd be interested to see how far he ran compared to everyone else on the pitch today. Also some good forward passes to get us out of pressure. I would like to see him play more risky forward passes in the final third though. His instinct seems to be to play it safe, which normally means backwards. I suppose that could be LVG's instructions though.
It's from whoscored - best you could find, but it's not hard to notice in the games that he is terrible defensively in the midfield. Today he should have at least 3 yellow cards without actually doing anything positive defensively.
Disagree I think he has a strong case that he shouldn't have a single yellow card, first one wasn't even a foul, of that's a pull on gray then then football is the most pathetic sport around (it already is), can't recall the third one.
If football was a game of 45 mins, he's been ok but the last 4 second 45mins he has been crap. But let's pretend like the second half of games don't happen!
But the team has also been crap in the second half, maybe it's Rooneys job to lift us but football is a team sport and if the whole team dips, it's not unusual that the individuals within that system do as well. The reason for dip is the biggest worry not the individuals themselves, we haven't played at high intensity for 90 minutes a single game this season and that's management...
You can't recall one of them yet think it's still a strong case that he didn't deserved booked for it?
He's not good enough to be a striker or midfielder and trying to build our team around shoehorning him in is going to hamper any attempts at being competitive or getting back to the CL. Which will hit us in the pocket. Surely that mitigates his allegedly great marketing potential.
When was the last time he actually managed to lift the ball over the wall?
I remember the good old days when his shooting from outside the box was amazing. How could you lose something like that?
It was about the time when he decided start trying to chip the keeper on the diagonal every time he had the chance.
I thought he had a decent game. Gave us that extra quality in midfield.
I agree. With energy and someone around him who can dictate, I think he'll prove to be a success in the advanced 8 role.
The thing is, with us being heavily linked to Sanches, it looks as though he might be the player to come in and be our box to box midfielder, leaving us with a three man midfield of say Schneiderlin, Sanches and Rooney. Whilst it would add a lot more energy to our midfield, it would be more of a hard-working three, rather than a creative three, with onus on our front three creating chances, which wouldn't be too much of a bad idea, providing we have players who can create something out of nothing, i.e. Martial.
It would be similar to the Chelsea's midfield three under Mourinho in 2004-06, where he played a midfield three of Makelele, Essien and Lampard.
We do lack energy in midfield, and we often struggle when teams counter us. More energy would certainly help us to counteract this problem.
Schneiderlin
Sanches Rooney
As I said, it wouldn't be the most creative, but if you look at Leicester for example, energy is massively important in the modern game.Sanches Rooney
Got his passing stats or a heat map?
I've seen this a few times. Rooney being casually compared to a prime Lampard. I'm not sure if Rooney is being overrated or Lampard underrated. The latter was consistently scoring over 20 a season around 2005. Rooney despite playing a more advanced role hasn't done that for about four years.
Look at his goal trend over the last few years, it's going downwards. He's not suddenly going to add 10 goals a year to his game whilst dropping further away from goal.
People can say this shoehorning thing all they want but since the turn of the years he's been one of the best in the team and fully deserves his place in the team, I get it every team has a scapegoat and Rooney is levelled with all it all with him being a senior player and being captain. But if people would actually open their eyes and watch from an objective standpoint they would see he's pretty much outperformed all our other "natural" midfielders in the last few games and the reason we didn't win today really wasn't on Rooney.
But yet again Rooneys critics fail to mention that the team as a whole has also taken a huge dip over the last 3-4 years and our overall goals are way down. The question is has Rooneys form been due to the team or just a decline, I think it's a bit of both, but while other players get the benefit of the doubt Rooney is thrown under the bus.
Could easily have been sent off.
There's just not a lot of positives from him as a CM apart from his above-average but not great distribution. He's just a less defensively competitive and aware version of good but passers who've been a CM their whole career like Cabaye, Hamsik, Parejo or Castro, and you can find a guy (probably not Hamsik) like that in the summer for 10-15M, which is what Rooney makes in wages alone.
There's just not a lot of positives from him as a CM apart from his above-average but not great distribution. He's just a less defensively competitive and aware version of good but passers who've been a CM their whole career like Cabaye, Hamsik, Parejo or Castro, and you can find a guy (probably not Hamsik) like that in the summer for 10-15M, which is what Rooney makes in wages alone.
Try fourfourtwo, they should have it.
A bit dramatic. Most of the players from four years ago have been sold. Rooney has played more than ever.
When he plays in midfield the commentators just notice the (successful) sprayed passes out wide and apparantly that is all he needs to do to get praise and a blind eye turned to any mistake and overall lack of contribution. We can do much, much better for a central midfielder at Manchester United.
If the people at our club see Rooney as a long term first choice central midfielder, were in trouble.
I only managed to tune in for the second half but Rooney was our best player. Did well under pressure.
How Oliver didn't send him off is a bit of a mystery. He's completely past it and should consider retiring maybe.
I didn't see the 1st half, but thought he was solid in the 2nd. IMO, he's been good in 2016.
But obviously people expect more. The 1 yellow he did get was incredibly soft though. Don't see how that's arguable.
But obviously people expect more. The 1 yellow he did get was incredibly soft though. Don't see how that's arguable.
From players like Robson, Ince, Keane, scholes to an aging and spineless carrick, fellaini and a knackered striker in midfield.
Too late
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