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DWelbz19

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Welbeck and Evans had fairly decent loan stints at Sunderland.
 

podurban2

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Oh yeah, successful loan spells. Like so many others before.
There's Beckham, and, er...
Beside Welbeck and Evans, I don't think Cleverley at Wigan was a horrible loan spell, it was just that he was never United quality. Give Andreas that same opportunity and see what he can do.
 

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Beside Welbeck and Evans, I don't think Cleverley at Wigan was a horrible loan spell, it was just that he was never United quality. Give Andreas that same opportunity and see what he can do.
Yeah, I was thinking more in terms of their eventual long-term development. But even looking at the success of the actual loan, there aren't many more than those.
 

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John O'Shea had loan spells, Pique went on loan and who knows maybe if we sent Pogba on loan to get playing time he'd still be here. Lingard had loans.

I don't get the point though, so because no one we have sent on loan in recent times has gone on to be world class it means all loans are useless? That makes no sense for me, our academy has had its weakest production line recently in a long time so loans or not they weren't making it here.

Just take a quick look at the England national team and Cahill, Rose, Walker, Milner, Wilshere, Sturridge, Henderson, Barkley, Lallana, Drinkwater, Kane, Hart, Carrick and more have all spent time on loans.
 
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Look what LVG has done to him.
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If hes not injured and LVG stays next season, he needs to leave our club for his own sake.
 

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While Manchester United were being bullied by West Ham at the Boleyn Ground, Andreas Pereira was swanning around Gigg Lane for the Under-21s against Bury.

Pereira struck twice in the United youngsters' 4-1 Manchester Senior Cup semi-final against the Shakers on another night he demonstrated how U21 football is beneath him.

The Brazilian has not featured in a United matchday squad since the 3-2 win over Arsenal in February and three days later, untried midfielder Joe Rothwell was included in the 18-man party to face Watford ahead of Pereira.

Even Adnan Januzaj, uninterested during the U21s' win at Chelsea on Friday night, reappeared for the first-team at West Ham on Tuesday.

Pereira could have sulked during his prolonged stint with the U21s but instead he has racked up a set of stats that are as ridiculous as Louis van Gaal's decision not to give him a chance in the first-team.

The 20-year-old has made 12 starts and one substitute appearance at U21 level this campaign, scoring eight goals and providing seven assists. The figures are so impressive Pereira is contributing to a goal every 75 minutes.

Named the U21 Player of the Year for last season, Pereira's stats make a mockery of Van Gaal's stance. Even at last week's Player of the Year awards, Pereira - who has made 11 senior appearances this term - had to wear his club suit instead of a black tie, which the first-team squad was permitted to wear.

Jesse Lingard's juvenile antics in his infamous bus video will also raise questions about Van Gaal's fairness, since Pereira is said to have been demoted to the U21s on account of his immaturity.

Pereira has started just two games this season, despite an auspicious pre-season in the United States, and last lined up for United in October's League Cup defeat to Middlesbrough.

The former PSV Eindhoven youth teamer suggested in January he needed to leave on loan.

Asked if he could leave on loan, Pereira said: “Normally, yes so we will see what happens.

“I want to stay here, of course, but you never know. We will see."

Pereira is expected to represent Brazil at the Olympics in Rio de Janeiro, as the Seleçãoattempt to finally clinch an elusive gold medal that has eluded them for decades.

Brazil have claimed three silver medals and two bronzes since the 1984 Games in Los Angeles.
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All this talk about Van Gaal being the saviour of our youth (a point thrown against Mourinho by many on here) and this is how he treats perhaps our most gifted youngster (apart from Martial who is basically carrying the first team so not including him in this youth list).
 

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How Lingaard is ahead of Pereira in the selection I can't understand.
 

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All this talk about Van Gaal being the saviour of our youth (a point thrown against Mourinho by many on here) and this is how he treats perhaps our most gifted youngster (apart from Martial who is basically carrying the first team so not including him in this youth list).
He does not fit philosophy. Besides it makes sense to play Pereira so van Gaal is absolutely delighted to be able to make an incredibly brave decision of not playing him, it makes him look extra-ordinary. He's been like that forever.
 

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I really think that the reason why Pereira, Wilson and especially Januzaj haven't been played under LVG is because they were already mentioned as big prospects, and so probably LVG wouldn't get the merit on them (especially on the last one) cause everyone knew about them before.
 

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He does not fit philosophy. Besides it makes sense to play Pereira so van Gaal is absolutely delighted to be able to make an incredibly brave decision of not playing him, it makes him look extra-ordinary. He's been like that forever.
That's the sense you get from his decisions, isn't it?

He does things out of the ordinary so people would praise his genius if it comes off.

He's the that guy in Sunday league football who would ignore you when you're open, opting instead for a no look pass to the guy a long distance away from him.
 

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That's the sense you get from his decisions, isn't it?

He does things out of the ordinary so people would praise his genius if it comes off.

He's the that guy in Sunday league football who would ignore you when you're open, opting instead for a no look pass to the guy a long distance away from him.
Yep. He's my best player? He needs to be on the bench, nobody would ever do something like this and I'm true genius for doing this. If he were basketball coach he'd trade Curry for 2nd round pick.
 

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I really think that the reason why Pereira, Wilson and especially Januzaj haven't been played under LVG is because they were already mentioned as big prospects, and so probably LVG wouldn't get the merit on them (especially on the last one) cause everyone knew about them before.
I think so too. So while Rashford and to a certain extent CBJ have done well with the chances, he has picked players from the academy who weren't really thought about as first team material. McNair, Blackett, Love, Varela, Lingard.. So it's not really genius. He is a narcissist who only thinks of his personal glory. Why would we want a man like him in charge?
 

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To think that given the shambolic shampoo of a season, he would have won a few points than cost us!
 

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He is a bigger talent than Januzaj and the best one since Pogba and gets mismanaged and mistreated heavily. He needs to play first team games, has huge potential and was ready for quite some time now. Absolute bollocks
 

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Still don't get why we subbed in Herera and then Depay and not him
 

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if i were him, i'd push for a move away this summer if LVG stays. it wouldn't matter if he has a good summer or not, as he was probably our best player on our summer tour last year. it makes no difference, he won't get played.

feck lvg.
 

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I'd be beyond livid if that were true, one of our most talented academy graduates treated like this. Why not just give him the loan he so badly needed? Wouldn't at all blame him for wanting to leave in summer if LvG stays.
 

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I understand why he's breaking the silence. Who can blame him; he just wants to play football and show what he can do.
 

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I wonder if those are exact quotes, unusual for a player to use the managers name rather than say boss/gaffer etc.....
 

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I'd be beyond livid if that were true, one of our most talented academy graduates treated like this. Why not just give him the loan he so badly needed? Wouldn't at all blame him for wanting to leave in summer if LvG stays.
He's obviously going to play in the FA cup final.
 

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These things can happen, LVG may have sincerely believed pereira would play under him and pereira may have believed it too but circumstances can dictate it not happening. Problem is you still need to keep the player sweet and make sure he understands why it has happened and make sure he understands he is still valued and will get his chance, those comments make it look like pereira feels he has been hung out to dry and had minimal contact with LVG.
 
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