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I remember the Blanc signing..if this was a Larsson type, yeah.
I remember the Blanc signing..if this was a Larsson type, yeah.
Good logic.
Don't agree with that. If anything it's forward thinking as we're signing him to bridge the gap whilst Rashford develops - which shows how much faith we have in him.Quite likely he'll be a success at United..but this a signing I can never agree to.
A huge admirer of his ability but for a club trying to move forward, bringing in a player as a stop gap is just strange and backward thinking.
I remember the Blanc signing..if this was a Larsson type, yeah.
It's not strange at all. Most want him and he's coming off a career best year. We already have two very young forwards and could do with an experienced one.Quite likely he'll be a success at United..but this a signing I can never agree to.
A huge admirer of his ability but for a club trying to move forward, bringing in a player as a stop gap is just strange and backward thinking.
I remember the Blanc signing..if this was a Larsson type, yeah.
Basically relegating Rashford to a fringe role. I don't see any sane manager starting Rashford ahead of him in the big games.Don't agree with that. If anything it's forward thinking as we're signing him to bridge the gap whilst Rashford develops - which shows how much faith we have in him.
Signing pure quality is a move forward itself and you'll always need variety in your striker department if you want challenge on all four fronts. Zlatan is unique and his experience is priceless, also may help younger players.Quite likely he'll be a success at United..but this a signing I can never agree to.
A huge admirer of his ability but for a club trying to move forward, bringing in a player as a stop gap is just strange and backward thinking.
I remember the Blanc signing..if this was a Larsson type, yeah.
As it stands he's the backup striker in a season where we'll be playing more games than usual in very quick succession, Thursday-Sunday etc. That is not a fringe role. The only level up would be starting striker which for an 18 year old is an absurd and unnecessary risk for both him and us.Basically relegating Rashford to a fringe role. I don't see any sane manager starting Rashford ahead of him in the big games.
It would be a decent signing if it was for 20m. On a free it's an amazing one.It's a decent signing, nothing more than that. I'm not as critical about this one as I was about the Falcao signing but once again I see plenty of people possibly expecting too much of him. He will solidify our front line and I expect him to bag around 12-15 goals in the PL alone because he brings the physical attributes necessary to succeed.
At the same time, I hope he'll understand having to make way for Rashford at times because continuing Rashford's development is gonna be key going forward. It's important to find the right balance and not hamper or alienate the talent we already have on board.
I assume he will have a monstrous salary that'll make up for the lack of a transfer fee. His agent is Mino Raiola, if the salary demands aren't completely ludicrous, something is wrong with the guy.It would be a decent signing if it was for 20m. On a free it's an amazing one.
I don't have an issue with his ability and experience. In fact I believe he is the best of his generation.It's not strange at all. Most want him and he's coming off a career best year. We already have two very young forwards and could do with an experienced one.
I remember it being said that Blanc was signed to help Wes Brown mature. That went well.Good logic.
I would have expecting a statement of how the young CBs benefitted.
How old are you? 2?
What's a monstrous salary?I assume he will have a monstrous salary that'll make up for the lack of a transfer fee. His agent is Mino Raiola, if the salary demands aren't completely ludicrous, something is wrong with the guy.
Huge chunk of context missing there.I remember it being said that Blanc was signed to help Wes Brown mature. That went well.
Wes Brown barely changed from his debut to the time he left.
What really helps young players is playing. Nothing beats experience.
Nor would he start any big games if we'd sign another top striker like Aubameyang or Higuain and they would hold on to that position far longer than Ibra would with his 1+1 year deal.Basically relegating Rashford to a fringe role. I don't see any sane manager starting Rashford ahead of him in the big games.
Signing a player who has scored 50 goals and made 16 assists in his last season and has a proper winning mentality is not backward thinking or strange. He will be a huge lift for the squad.Quite likely he'll be a success at United..but this a signing I can never agree to.
A huge admirer of his ability but for a club trying to move forward, bringing in a player as a stop gap is just strange and backward thinking.
I remember the Blanc signing..if this was a Larsson type, yeah.
- AncelottiZlatan was in my eyes, without doubt, the key to PSG's improvement. His fascinating character, his consistant excellence in training, and how he focused and prepared for matches were always examples for his teammates [...] When I arrived at PSG, I had heard of him as a difficult player to manage. On the contrary, I found myself a helpful, professional champion who was always focused on his work. Not only have I never had a problem with him, even better, he was often a great help to me [...] He loves being a leader, he was born with this attitude - he never avoids his responsibilities, rather he seeks them because they help him give the best of his ability. He is the most unselfish player I have met, and I consider him as one of the greatest current forwards, alongside Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo.
Do you even believe that RVP statement...remember his feeling when SAF retired.Signing pure quality is a move forward itself and you'll always need variety in your striker department if you want challenge on all four fronts. Zlatan is unique and his experience is priceless, also may help younger players.
You can say RvP was a stop gap too but it helped substantially in campaign for United's 20th title.
Bullshit. You learn from other people and it's called inspiration and influence.Do you even believe that RVP statement...remember his feeling when SAF retired.
If people don't think Rashford or Martial are good, it's fine by me..but let's stop saying his experience will be beneficial to their development. Experience is not transferable and the only way for them to learn is to gain their own.
I need some of what you're smoking!!!Do you even believe that RVP statement...remember his feeling when SAF retired.
If people don't think Rashford or Martial are good, it's fine by me..but let's stop saying his experience will be beneficial to their development. Experience is not transferable and the only way for them to learn is to gain their own.
This is not about how good he is for me. I still rate him highly but I'd rather watch him from afar.Nor would he start any big games if we'd sign another top striker like Aubameyang or Higuain and they would hold on to that position far longer than Ibra would with his 1+1 year deal.
Rashford is 18 years old, he doesn't need to play the big games perse. We can offer him plenty of minutes in the EL games, cup games and even some Pl games versus smaller teams and nobody is to say Ibra can't be substituted, on top of that Rashford seems to be equally good playing from the rightside so they can even play together if we want them to.
Rashford is not ready to be the big man upfront not yet. With Ibra we'd sign somebody who is and who would only be here for 2 years tops, which excellent time for rashford to grow into the role. And as a bonus he would be a free transfer (and all the his salary isn't free bullshit, no player plays for nothing, we can sign Higuain for £60m, he would also be paid a £200k a week salary).
Do you know what the word experience mean?I need some of what you're smoking!!!
When you call bullshit make sure you add sense to it..Bullshit. You learn from other people and it's called inspiration and influence.
They won't be learning from James Milner but Zlatan Ibrahimovic.
Yes, its the reason at work I pair the most experienced with any of our interns.Do you know what the word experience mean?
Really? That what it means...Yes, its the reason at work I pair the most experienced with any of our interns.
Of course it is, otherwise there wouldn't be teachers/tutors/instructors in any field passing on their knowledge.Do you even believe that RVP statement...remember his feeling when SAF retired.
If people don't think Rashford or Martial are good, it's fine by me..but let's stop saying his experience will be beneficial to their development. Experience is not transferable and the only way for them to learn is to gain their own.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...rio-ferdinand-chat-the-secret-of-chris-853977“I was talking to Rio on Friday and he was giving me little pointers. He has played with and against Carlos Tevez for many years and seen him in training every day for a couple of years so he was giving me little bits of advice on how to play him.
“He was making the point that Carlos likes to feel the defenders at his back. So you let him have his touch before you move in and go for him. It was great advice because he is a tricky player. It was a really good challenge for me.
You're experiencing high quality football when you have world class around you and in 4 parallel competitions Rashford will also have solid quantity of games on his own.When you call bullshit make sure you add sense to it..
Inspiring and influencing are not the same as experiencing.
Training with more experienced players means that you can gain experienced from them. They can teach you things and open your eyes to things due to their experience. Training with better and more experienced players can make you a more experienced player yourself.When you call bullshit make sure you add sense to it..
Inspiring and influencing are not the same as experiencing.
You may have a point it might be easier to displace Higuain than Zlatan but it is highly unlikley either way. Rashford is 18 years old, he is not at the level yet of a real top striker, we can't expect him to play every game, we can't expect him to displace someone like Higuain or Zlatan nor does he need to at this time.This is not about how good he is for me. I still rate him highly but I'd rather watch him from afar.
If United sign a higuain or Pierre its competition and if they can't displace them it'll mean, they are not progressing.
With Zlatan its just another Rooney situation(ability ignored) and the youngsters will be feeding off the crumbs.
Smalling is maybe the worst passer of a ball we've had at centre back for some time. Yet he played with maybe the best we've ever had. The transfer of knowledge broke down somewhere. Big time.Of course it is, otherwise there wouldn't be teachers/tutors/instructors in any field passing on their knowledge.
Here's a good example football related i remembered of one older player passing on knowledge to a younger one.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...rio-ferdinand-chat-the-secret-of-chris-853977
Technique and knowledge are two very different things.Smalling is maybe the worst passer of a ball we've had at centre back for some time. Yet he played with maybe the best we've ever had. The transfer of knowledge broke down somewhere. Big time.
You can get bits from other players but there really is no substitute for experience and practice.
Well you are talking about something completely different mate. Experience/knowledge can be transferred as the example i posted proves, skill/technique cannot.Smalling is maybe the worst passer of a ball we've had at centre back for some time. Yet he played with maybe the best we've ever had. The transfer of knowledge broke down somewhere. Big time.
You can get bits from other players but there really is no substitute for experience and practice.
Agree and that's what I'm saying. There's not all that much you can learn by watching another. You've got to get out there yourself. In football anyway.Technique and knowledge are two very different things.
It's not really experience. Rio just happened to have trained with Tevez. A 21 year old could have passed on the same info.Well you are talking about something completely different mate. Experience/knowledge can be transferred as the example i posted proves, skill/technique cannot.
If it could i'm sure we would have Scholes in every day teaching youngsters how to pass like he could.
It's not really experience. Rio just happened to have trained with Tevez. A 21 year old could have passed on the same info.
Still not sure what exactly you are getting at here mate, you seem to be echoing much of what others have said myself included but your reply is written in such a way that it seems you are disagreeing.There are little bits a player can pass on but the big stuff is skill and technique. Ibra can't teach Rashford how to hold up the ball or strike it like he can. Rashford will have to work on that himself.
And we will probably learn the hard way we aint challenging, no legs in the team its asking allot
Totally agree with you. But pretending to be smarter and know more than a world class manager is so much fun... What else would people do on the CAF if they couldn't do that.The point here is the manager in charge is a man that has won many trophies in different countries, he obviously know what he's doing.
I will ask the same question you asked the other guy, are you 2?Basically relegating Rashford to a fringe role. I don't see any sane manager starting Rashford ahead of him in the big games.