They're obviously who I'm referring to. As a whole they have selfishly let us down after reaping the benefits themselves.
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They're obviously who I'm referring to. As a whole they have selfishly let us down after reaping the benefits themselves.
Nope, probably not.
Sturgeon to address the cameras in about an hour.
You do realize that immigration from EU countries is something that gets solved by living EU, not immigration from Syria or Ukraine?
EU doesn't force any country to accept refuges from non EU countries. Sure, Germany wanted to play the nice state this time (maybe as a way of having the legacy as giving to the world this century) and pushed other countries to do the same, but they didn't force it. And in the end, Poland didn't receive any Middle Eastern refugee.
So, EU countries have the individual power of stopping any immigration from outside of EU countries, which in most countries, dwarfs the immigration from EU countries.
Well our current government was purely elected on the base of not being the previous government who was the sole party responsible for people's failures. Generally people here like to shift the blame when things are not going their way, I went to visit family in Ireland lately and they couldn't get over how awesome Ireland was compared to Poland and how in Poland nobody ever could live this good, despite the fact that I make way more than they do in Ireland even if you convert currencies and costs of living are significantly smaller here, and I was starting from the exact same point they were starting from.
There are many lunatics here, I know. I just think on this particular subject they would be outweighed by sane people. I am generally not in favor of full blown democracy because of things like that, I don't want people with zero clue having the same impact on country as educated people with actual knowledge. I wish people had it in their brains to simply not vote on something they do not care and have no clue about.
It's a bit of a stretch - but imagine if another major European City decided to make a push to become the "new" financial centre of Europe, and it took off... we'd be royally butt-fecked.
Like I said, it's a stretch, but stranger things have happened... look at this referendum for a start!
Cameron's last derisory attempt to do this showed him asking for less than he originally said he'd ask for..... and then not even getting that. So "change from within" was not going to be possible.
I said 'doesn't tend to look good'.
They are probably already throwing parties in Frankfurt. You should have seen the smug faces of Börse employees on German television the last weeks, they knew they could profit massively.
I can certainly see Northern Ireland doing something, now. For one, their majority voted to stay in the EU, but the implications for them will be huge. Having border control to go from South > North and vice-versa is ludicrous and I imagine the dual-citizenship currently in place simply won't be able to exist anymore.
I can definitely see a unified Ireland occurring but not as fast as Scotland are likely to leave the UK.
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You stupid idiots.
Yep and they're mostly amazing employees and fair people. I'm working with several of them on a frequent basis and they're great folks.
The outburst on possibility of having about 10,000 Syrian immigrants who would not stay here long anyway was embarrassing. EU does not create any problems in that matter anyway, it's internal EU immigration that it regulates and it's something Poland have benefited from greatly.
I have to agree.
Forgot to post the wink smiley..
Isn't Frankfurt already going that way? Certainly it's not currently near London in that aspect, but definitely on the rise and arguably the financial centre of mainland Europe, at least.
Germany's 'downfall' (phrasing) has always been a lack of a 'super city' like London. They don't have any city with the population or vast reach that London does, but Frankfurt certainly has the capability. A huge airport, big financial district, very well educated workforce and in the largest and most well educated country in the EU. Makes sense to me.
Well Scotland will be out of the U.K. that's for sure. Hope Johnson becomes PM if only to watch him turn into the worst PM in history.
Without Britain and it's lobbying for big finance and wall street, we surely will see more financial regulation. It is something which could even make the EU look good in the eyes of the people now, because most have wanted this for a long time. This would mean the UK (or probably just Britain at this point) would lose a major advantage to international finance. You will still need a headquarter inside of the EU and it can't be London anymore. Frankfurt just waited for this, they talked about this for weeks. Probably the only ones in Germany welcoming a Brexit.
I've posted this before but http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2015/05/labour-lost-the-working-class-vote-a-long-time-ago/ UKIP has just given the working class a single political voice.
As for Corbyn he was clearly the best in the leadership race, who would you rather had won ?
Liz Kendall - She seems like a nice person and all but any sort of political core/beliefs. I couldn't tell you what Liz Kendall stood for or what a UK would look like with a prime minster Kendall and sadly Liz Kendall couldn't tell you either.
Yvette Cooper - ''We shouldn't just talk about the trains,planes and the boy toys'' no need to say anything else.
Andy Burham - The Ed Miliband before there was a Ed Miliband
Corbyn at the very least showed an alternative, a different view point and narrative to mainstream British politics, yes he was was the best of some what bad bunch and is this viewpoint unelectable mostly likely but I can't blame people for voting for it.
At no point I implicated they aren't though, have I? Being a student myself it's quite hard not to come across Ukrainian students and I'm studying with them and they are my friends. It's just fecking annoying that this problem gets overlooked in order to try to prove a vain point that we're this or that because we don't want to accept immigrants, while we already are.
As for the 10k you're referring to, the number was never stable, there were plenty of different numbers thrown around and it would probably never stop on just one 'wave' of the immigration as it never does.
^ the people that had a major influence on why we're here.
Well now that the brits can't enter the EU to work.... someone will profit from the outflux of British workforce.
And there'll be hell to pay, the rights to negotiate for your own deal doesn't mean you can play hardball, England might not need france or germany, but she sure needs the whole EU to sustain her economy.
And there'll be hell to pay, the rights to negotiate for your own deal doesn't mean you can play hardball, England might not need france or germany, but she sure needs the whole EU to sustain her economy.
If only they were smart idiots.
Hey Scotland and NI, declare independence and join the EU. Free French wine and Belgian fries for everyone!
Absolutely baffled by the outcome of this.
Absolutely baffled by the outcome of this.
I wouldn't bother, his attitude shows he doesn't want to listen.
The EU enforces freedom of movement for EU citizens only and as you say, Germany & Sweden did everything they could to help the Syrian refugees, taking hundreds of thousands, the UK on the other hand took 9,400
Why is that a good thing? What do you want in its place? Just go back to the 19th century?
Well done eggsy britsy!
But this is not really a problem and it does not get overlooked. Everybody knows they are coming here and there is no issue with that because they are not taking our jobs (mostly) and they are not causing any trouble. It's been a thing for over a decade already, even pre-war, people from Ukraine and Belarus have come here often because we're a better market for them.
None of these 'waves of immigration' would stay here in large numbers though. They needed Poland to get to Europe, that's all. Besides, again, we're talking several thousand people in a 38 million country and nobody would ever force anyone to give them jobs and our social care is not enough to support them without jobs anyways. The entire concept that they'd cause trouble, rape our women and kill our children (which was literally the thing people accused them of during protests) was extremely embarrassing. You can point at cultural differences being an obstacle without accusing people of something they are not. But I don't think this belongs in the above conversation.
Sorry Kostur, but this is completely unsubstantiated. It's wishful thinking.
Has the price of petrol gone up yet at the forecourts?
I find it strange that there are people in countries like Poland, Hungary and Czech Republic who actually believe that they would benefit from leaving European Union. That's truly bonkers.
The Korwin Mikke movement in Poland is terrible. People literally believe we'd have 20% economic growth if we just opened a free market completely (including legalizing all drugs) and left EU, because Korwin Mikke told them so.
This is Korwin Mikke:
People usually grow out of it by the age of 20. Some don't.
The Korwin Mikke movement in Poland is terrible. People literally believe we'd have 20% economic growth if we just opened a free market completely (including legalizing all drugs) and left EU, because Korwin Mikke told them so.
This is Korwin Mikke:
People usually grow out of it by the age of 20. Some don't.
That sentence is making my brain bleed. From the noobie forum?
You brits will regret this day seriously in the future, trust me, it's you're choice, a bad, bad choice.
there is usually a couple of days lag... but as its priced in $ its inevitable it will (unless the government cut some of the tax as thats by far the majority of the price that we pay)
Sense vs national feelings. National feelings have been winning this war for a long time.
It doesn't surprise me at all. Most of the people are idiots.
The most advanced cooperation of nations in the World, and a beautiful free movement ideal that has allowed people like me to live in France, UK, Norway & Sweden.
How on Earth is the fall of the EU a thing to celebrate?
Yes I know, I feel incredibly sad and depressed , and I don't even live in the UK any more - can't imagine what some people are feeling at this moment - what a disaster
Wait, people really think they'd benefit in Poland? Not to sound ignorant but surely given the vast amount of Polish who immigrate to the wealthier EU countries, it would be a disaster if you guys left, no? Or is it seen that without the option to emigrate that it would mean a greater workforce there to proceed forward?I find it strange that there are people in countries like Poland, Hungary and Czech Republic who actually believe that they would benefit from leaving European Union. That's truly bonkers.
The Korwin Mikke movement in Poland is terrible. People literally believe we'd have 20% economic growth if we just opened a free market completely (including legalizing all drugs) and left EU, because Korwin Mikke told them so.
This is Korwin Mikke:
People usually grow out of it by the age of 20. Some don't.