Paul Pogba | Undergoing Medical | Helping out the Laundry Ladies

[stevoc]

Just checked that juventuz forum. There's so much hate for United there now

Mind bogging. It's like Muller going to Tottenham.

Jesus they must be bitter if they are spewing shite like that.

I see they are playing dumb and acting like they don't know why Pogba wants to go to United.

The obvious reason is we are going to pay him a lot more money than they can and United is a bigger and more popular club in a much more popular and competitive league.

And i think they are forgetting their team while very good isn't exactly the youngest. They are in danger of all going over the hill at the same time. Look at the ages of the bulk of their squad: Buffon 38, Lichtsteiner 32, Alves 33, Evra 35, Bonucci 29, Barzahgly 35, Chiellini 31, Benatia 29, Hernanes 31, Marchisio 30, Khedira 29, Mandzukic 30, Higuain 29. Yes they have some good young players like Dybala, Pjanic and Sturaro as well but in the near future they are going to have to replace like 8-9 very good players which won't be easy or cheap. Pogba maybe noticed that and fancied leaving for a side on the up with lots of young players before their inevitable decline starts.

 

[Macern]

He worked very hard in closing people down at Madrid. Don't see how it's too far saying he's strong defensively

Because he can't tackle, he is dribbled easily, he's weak, his marking is shit and his effort defensively is highly inconsistent.

 

[RDCR07]

To be fair imagine how we'd feel if a team in the Europa league took our best player after we'd won 5 titles in a row and were competing in the CL every season. They are hurting and lashing out by belittling our club to make themselves feel better. In an ideal world they'd grow up and accept United are the bigger club and there's no shame in losing a player to us. But a lot of people behave like morons on the internet.

You're talking as if we are forever in the Europa League. This is a blip and everyone knows it. If he went to Liverpool or Spurs before last year, it makes more sense because in recent years thats where they have been playing. And getting pissed is one thing but saying some moronic racist shit is just outright ludicrous.

 

[Dec9003]

The fee is fairly irrelevant, but in 5/6 years if he's a success I imagine it will be seen as a bargain if anything. If he is coming though it's imperative that is he's the most advanced midfielder that we have. If we sit him next to Schneiderlin and let Rooney roam in his 'free role' he spoke about in an interview recently then we will struggle for top 4 let alone the title. But if we let him play up the pitch and cause untold amounts of damage along with Zlatan, Mkhy and Martial with Rashford and possibly Mata and Januzaj as subs if they're still here then we're going to be dangerous next season.

 

[Womp]

Lol I've never understood people who claim we aren't the biggest club in the world because we don't have the most trophies. We have the biggest following worldwide, make the most dough and the fact that Juve being such a "big" club couldn't hold onto one of their prized assets from a team in the Europa league makes this all the more delicious.

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

The fee is fairly irrelevant, but in 5/6 years if he's a success I imagine it will be seen as a bargain if anything. If he is coming though it's imperative that is he's the most advanced midfielder that we have. If we sit him next to Schneiderlin and let Rooney roam in his 'free role' he spoke about in an interview recently then we will struggle for top 4 let alone the title. But if we let him play up the pitch and cause untold amounts of damage along with Zlatan, Mkhy and Martial with Rashford and possibly Mata and Januzaj as subs if they're still here then we're going to be dangerous next season.

Unfortunately, I think Mourinho will use him there in the beginning.

I would be surprised if he benched Rooney from the start.

However I have faith that Mourinho will use a 3 man midfield after a while(few months maybe).

 

[RDCR07]

Unfortunately, I think Mourinho will use him there in the beginning.

I would be surprised if he benched Rooney from the start.

However I have faith that Mourinho will use a 3 man midfield after a while(few months maybe).

Yep. This is what I think as well. He might start him off in a midfield 2, especially against weaker teams so he has a little more freedom and time to make mistakes and grow in confidence because you wont get punished as much as when you make a mistake against the top 6.

 

[Attila]

Because he can't tackle, he is dribbled easily, he's weak, his marking is shit and his effort defensively is highly inconsistent.

I meant for a winger he is defensively strong and provides good balance.

 

[Womp]

Unfortunately, I think Mourinho will use him there in the beginning.

I would be surprised if he benched Rooney from the start.

However I have faith that Mourinho will use a 3 man midfield after a while(few months maybe).

This is the most frustrating part, I think we have a genuine chance at the title this season, but with how close it's going to be I don't think we have the freedom to play passengers.

 

[bosnian_red]

We should throw another 100m at griezmann after this just to make a statement that we can and so everyone shits themselves (even if we dont get him)

 

[Justin Bieber]

I doubt the posters on juventuz would even know local Turin based humour themselves.

 

[Lay]

WTH...r u for real? R u talking about all-my-players-have-justice-probems, pay-fee-in-dark-alleys, 20-games-last-year-were against-10-man-squad-or-got-a-free-penalty?

They're talking about Barca here..just find the last bit pretty funny. They do realise they were relegated for match fixing right?

 

[spwd]

We should throw another 100m at griezmann after this just to make a statement that we can and so everyone shits themselves (even if we dont get him)

Yes please

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

We should throw another 100m at griezmann after this just to make a statement that we can and so everyone shits themselves (even if we dont get him)

would be hilarious

Really hope we get Griezmann though in the future.

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

This is the most frustrating part, I think we have a genuine chance at the title this season, but with how close it's going to be I don't think we have the freedom to play passengers.

I think we'll win it(challenge for sure imo), but how Mourinho handles Rooney will be key.

 

[RDCR07]

We should throw another 100m at griezmann after this just to make a statement that we can and so everyone shits themselves (even if we dont get him)

This! Would be fecking hilarious. Dont even negotiate with Athetico over fees. Just activate his release clause and see everyone panic.

 

[Macern]

I meant for a winger he is defensively strong and provides good balance.

Meh I don't see it that way. He's no Ronaldo in terms of defensive workrate obviously, but I have never seen him contributing very much in defense. Pretty much the only thing I've seen him do is to try and close down the opposition quickly after loss of possession, but even Messi does that.

You did kind of say that he was defensively strong in general though since you mentioned him alongside Pogba who is a CM.

 

[Macern]

We should throw another 100m at griezmann after this just to make a statement that we can and so everyone shits themselves (even if we dont get him)

 

[Earthquake]

This is given that we'd be paying a 100m pound fee, but as we know now, it's 92m pounds, making the fee as percentage of turnover 18%.

 

[Jaybomb]

Pogba is better than Kroos and if I could have only one of them, I'd pick Pogba every day.

Don't care what anybody says.

 

[Macern]

I tried to register as 'manutd4ever10' at juventuz but apparently I "didn't meet the membership requirements" so my registration was deleted

 

[Gasolin]

So did the medical happen?

 

[Macern]

So did the medical happen?

Probably, but no one knows for sure

 

[RDCR07]

Pogba is better than Kroos and if I could have only one of them, I'd pick Pogba every day.

Don't care what anybody says.

Debatable. It really depends on what your team needs. Right now I feel we need a Pogba type player more than we need a Kroos type player.

 

[fallengt]

I don't get it. Are those from juventuz forum even local fans ? Why do they even mad? Juventus is a big club but they're seriously deluded if they think people still take Seria A seriously.
It's fecking 100m euro, we pay it fair and square. With that money they don't have to worry about getting involved in matchfixing for few years . Imagine that.

 

[BaguetteBoy]

@Olly

FFS
Muppet kingdom

 

[Attila]

Meh I don't see it that way. He's no Ronaldo in terms of defensive workrate obviously, but I have never seen him contributing very much in defense. Pretty much the only thing I've seen him do is to try and close down the opposition quickly after loss of possession, but even Messi does that.

You did kind of say that he was defensively strong in general though since you mentioned him alongside Pogba who is a CM.

Messi doesn't do that. Not from what I've seen of Barcelona these past few years anyway.

I didn't mean to say that hes a good as pogba defensively. Just that they could all play together without it being too offensive as they all are able to contribute well on the defensive side (even though they are mainly offensive creative players)

Found this post by Raulmadrid which might explain what I meant

During his four years at Madrid Di Maria always tracked back and defended both when he played on the right and in the middle on the left and not only was his work-rate impressive, his defending was too. He was very good at winning the ball back and shepherding it out of play and a lot of Madrid's counter-attacks were started by him winning the ball back and then either dribbling his way out of the back or by him passing it out. The team became much more balanced when he was put in midfield last year and the defence improved and kept a lot more clean sheets. That said, Madrid had the players around him to make it work when he was used in such a position and I am not sure that United do or if Van Gaal even wants to use him there. All I can say is that there shouldn't be much trouble with Di Maria in term of him not tracking back or working hard, wherever he is put. His attitude and flexibility is excellent and in the end they were what made Ancelotti want to keep him over the more talented but less diligent Ozil.

 

[RDCR07]

I don't get it. Are those from juventuz forum even local fans ? Why do they even mad? Juventus is a big club but they're seriously deluded if they think people still take Seria A seriously.
It's fecking 100m euro, we pay it fair and square. With that money they don't have to worry about getting involved in matchfixing for few years . Imagine that.

What? That makes no sense. So what if they are international fans? They arent entitled to be angry? Isnt probably 70-80% of this forum not "local" fans?

 

[roonster09]

I don't get it. Are those from juventuz forum even local fans ? Why do they even mad? Juventus is a big club but they're seriously deluded if they think people still take Seria A seriously.
It's fecking 100m euro, we pay it fair and square. With that money they don't have to worry about getting involved in matchfixing for few years . Imagine that.

What?

Most here are non local fans and would be mad if our club sell Martial.

 

[fatboy]

Pogba is better than Kroos and if I could have only one of them, I'd pick Pogba every day.

Don't care what anybody says.

If we had gone for Kroos, negotiations will have dragged out with Real till end August. And when we finally agree on a price like 70+mil, Kroos will sign a lucrative new contract to stay on with them.

To me, both are about on par. But Pogba is 3 years younger, more marketable, and will get even better.

 

[Keeps It tidy]

What?

Most here are non local fans and would be mad if our club sell Martial.

You just have to look at the De Gea threads last season or the paranoia some here have of Real Madrid signing our players.

 

[MDFC Manager]

The others is mainly Di Marzio. That was when the story initially broke. Doesn't Romano work for/with Di Marzio anyway? It's more likely that they would have got a more accurate figure as time passed since the initial Di Marzio article.

With regards to who gives a feck, I do, other fans will. Heck SAF gave enough of a feck to write about Hazard's agent demanding £8m as being obscene in his autobiography. Paying an agent €20m is disgusting and sends out the wrong message about our club to other agents. €20m isn't short change to the club either, they drag our players all over the world on preseason and those games accumulate at most the amount we've just reportedly paid Raiola. I would much rather the club I support was sensible with its money and looked at rewarding the fans, investing more into the local community etc or even waived these gloried oversees friendlies and just played friendlies at home in England, that's far better preparation for the season that racking up thousands of air miles.

Anyway I'm in a tiny minority with this view so I'll make this my last contribution to this thread.

Raiola's cut is written into his contract. It's not an arbitrary payment and someone has to settle it if a transfer has to be agreed.

 

[Jacky Quacky]

You're not getting banned. Ignore whoever told you that.

Yes

 

[Red Dreams]

There have been a number of posts 'defending' what Klopp said.
Most of what he said was stating the obvious.

Here is the question for Klopp though.

If Liverpool had the money we have and Pogba was willing to go there, would they not pay what was asked?

...assuming Klopp wanted him of course.

Certainly they would.

The fact is Liverpool cannot afford the fee and wages.

 

[Cantonagotmehere]

If we had gone for Kroos, negotiations will have dragged out with Real till end August. And when we finally agree on a price like 70+mil, Kroos will sign a lucrative new contract to stay on with them.

To me, both are about on par. But Pogba is 3 years younger, more marketable, and will get even better.

I'm a big fan of Kroos but in my humble opinion we need a player like a Pogba a whole lot more.

Rightly or wrongly I also doubt Kroos's drive on the pitch vs other players who are put on the same level.

As many have said, getting Pogba at 23 for an out of this world fee is a whole lot different conversation then buying these other great midfielders who are locked into their clubs and who are older! If he wins us a couple league titles, some champions league runs, he is worth even fecking piece of silver.

 

[::sonny::]

Today the announcement (la stampa - turin)

 

[WPMUFC]

Today the announcement (la stampa - turin)

Tomorrow, Paul Pogba will be a United player. Pogba leaves Juventus after four seasons

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[LLMU]

Few more hours to go for this ... hopefully

 

[Footyislife]

People who don't think Pogba is a purchase on the level of Neymar, Bale, & Ronaldo just don't get it do they. Why do you think a world class manager like Mourinho is obsessed with him? He can dribble past people like he's Messi, ball control and technique getting close to Pirlo's level, tackle decently well with those long legs of his, and is a more athletic version of Yaya in his prime. A B2B midfielder is arguably the player who influences the game the most on both end of the pitches. It's silly not to pay more for a player who makes more impact on the game as a whole.

 

[::sonny::]