Not knowing the rules comes to mind
2017 Confederations Cup
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
I hate this whole video assistant shite. Complete bollocks so far.
It's waaay too long. Should not take more than 5 seconds. Especially the good goal, you only need to watch it once to see it's good, ref should've know the goal was good within 5 seconds(nevermind that the ref should have known it was a good goal all along)
I thought it was because Vargas was ahead of the keeper.
RTE having a bloody nightmare! "The cameras have to be in line!!!" Then using camera angles that aren't in line to make that point and pretend they're right.
There were two defenders on the line though so not even close to being offside and I can't believe the officials at this level don't know the rules.
I totally can. A bigger angle camera would make it clear
Agreed! Unless there's a "play on" rule in the trial, that's all I can think of. But there's been no mention of anything like that.
The VAR system fecking sucks. It kills the game. I'm all for appropriate use of technology but the delay is far too big. What is required is technology which can make an instantaneous offside decision - indisputably, like the goal line tech - at the time the player makes the run. With microchips in shirts, that shouldn't be difficult.
Why do people complain so much for such benign matters?
Is there joy in complaining? Is it one of those little pleasures of life?
It's the right thing to do.
Is there joy in complaining? Is it one of those little pleasures of life?
It's the right thing to do.
VAR is doing its job but I'm starting to wonder it might be better if it were used as an appeal process. Obviously frivolous appeals would have to be met with some kind of punishment (the manager being send to the stands or something) but it disrupts the flow of the game too much and not many seem to have a clear idea what's going on.
Football isn't science nor does it aim to be absolutely objective. Refs get decisions spot on most of the time and VAR should only be used in big incidents such as the shite offside decision the lino gave at the end.
I simply don't think it's imperative to rule out those absolutely marginal offside calls that they were used for today. But maybe that's just me
Football isn't science nor does it aim to be absolutely objective. Refs get decisions spot on most of the time and VAR should only be used in big incidents such as the shite offside decision the lino gave at the end.
I simply don't think it's imperative to rule out those absolutely marginal offside calls that they were used for today. But maybe that's just me
For us Brits, it is.
I see what you mean, but making the correct decision should be the most important thing.
That being said, I think they should make it similar to the appealing in tennis, where you have a select number of opportunities to appeal some calls that seem doubtful to you. If they're just revising every single goal, then I agree it'd be a huge overkill and it'd ruin things.
I know, a lot are complaining, for a system that seems to bring a bit of more justice to the game
But wait until this happens in a united match, when they disallow a goal for an inch offside goal, after 1 minute of celebrations. Just imagine the match day thread in here.
Here in Chile we were all fuming after the first disallowed goal. And after the first and second legitimate goals i didnt celebrate the goals until i was sure they were gonna validate them, can you imagine how much thats sucks? They need to find a way to implement this system but to make the calls as fast as it gets, otherwise its horrendously intrusive with the way fans experience the football match. All of you saying we complain just for the sake of complaining, just think about it
But wait until this happens in a united match, when they disallow a goal for an inch offside goal, after 1 minute of celebrations. Just imagine the match day thread in here.
Here in Chile we were all fuming after the first disallowed goal. And after the first and second legitimate goals i didnt celebrate the goals until i was sure they were gonna validate them, can you imagine how much thats sucks? They need to find a way to implement this system but to make the calls as fast as it gets, otherwise its horrendously intrusive with the way fans experience the football match. All of you saying we complain just for the sake of complaining, just think about it
If you mean Fernando Fiore (https://twitter.com/fernandofiore), he's not Mexican. He's from Argentina.
Plus Giovani has no business near this squad. He's been a ghost since he joined the MLS.
In fact, once Osorio subbed Vela out we lost a lot of creativity and he was exploiting how wear Guerreiro was, Gio did nothing. Lozano or even Damm would have at least keep that side busy.
The problem is plenty of the top leagues will already use it next season when this should need to have a big evolution (they should experiment it in different ways) before getting to that stage.
I don't think there's a problem in using it for penalties or red cards. I have a problem with how they use it for goals as it makes it impossible to celebrate a goal. If you simply use VAR for difficult penalties and red cards and find a way to check offside goals in something like 2 or 3 seconds and communicate it to the ref, you've pretty much solved most of controversies in football. There still might be one goal from time to time where there was a foul before it happened but I think fans would be able to live with that.
Pretty much how I felt too
VAR definitely needs to happen, it might be far from perfect but it's still an improvement. You guys have been moaning a lot about Real Madrid been benefited from bad referring, so I really want it to be implemented just to see what some of you guys come up with when we win the 13th Cup (3rd in a row) and Ronaldo wins his 6th Ballon D'Or. 
Nope. Historically, sociologically and patently wrong.
The situation they looked at was when Sanchez went through, not when Vargas scored.
just seen highlights of both
VAR looks great, only a few seconds to make things fair and remove human errors and also saves refs from getting abused. Just need to make it more transparent
VAR looks great, only a few seconds to make things fair and remove human errors and also saves refs from getting abused. Just need to make it more transparent
From my perspective this should be the main reason to implement it. By the advancements of technology and coverage football has nowadays the refs have been overwhelmed and exposed on regular basis for a long time, every weekend you would have people moaning on shit refereeing and while I also get mad at them many times I think this is the best way to improve the current situation.
So while there's still a lot of room to improve how they are implementing I still see this as an improvement and advancement in the right direction.
The FS1 second match commentary was miles better that the first match commentary.
Man I'm so happy that Stindl gets some minutes in an international competition. Not that he's great enough to start for the normal team, but I love the guy. Hardworking, great mentality, and deceptively good for appearing rather average.
Was a fan ever since he scored this when I watched live.
Was a fan ever since he scored this when I watched live.
Not a fan of Australia playing with 3 at the back
It rarely works for us
It rarely works for us
Stadium is more than half empty?
Leno starting ahead of Ter Stegen?
They want all players to play at least once and Trapp and Ter Stegen already played last week....
Just scored
Stindl, the man the myth! Great assist by Brandt!
I think it's because all 3 goalies were to be given 1 game. So this is still Leno's 1 game whereas Ter Stegen and Trapp had theirs during the pre tournament friendlies.
Germany has a goalkeeper no. 1. It is the battle for no. 2 and 3 next season - or the one that has the biggest chances if Neuer would get injured.
FFS! Why are Germany playing now?
Alternatively wait until it happens in favour of us and then we'll all be applauding VAR for working and disallowing a goal correctly. Given the amount of bad goals given against England you're preaching to the wrong people.
Is Australia playing with their best team?
Brandt has been brilliant!
But the usual problem - chance conversion...
Yeah, had Australia much stronger in mind. Didn't expect our B/C-Team to outclass them so heavily (so far).
Shouldn't have said it, he hasn't done much of note since. :P