Lukaku of all people doesn't have a right to criticise anyone about lost assists... Micky, mats and martial will like to have a word with him first
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Lukaku of all people doesn't have a right to criticise anyone about lost assists... Micky, mats and martial will like to have a word with him first
That's one of his criticism that he scores in a bunch. This season he has scored in almost all games which is excellent for us.
Very impressed so far and 75m seems great value in this crazy market. Can he get better though? He's so young and won't hit his prime til 27-30.
I honestly think him and Kane will eventually break the top scoring record in 1 season and of all time. Who comes out on top between those 2 though.
I honestly think him and Kane will eventually break the top scoring record in 1 season and of all time. Who comes out on top between those 2 though.
His overall game improved in the last 5 games. He holds the ball well and you can see that the understanding with the others is getting better. I really like him and if he can keep up that goalscoring record, even better
If he wants to score one single goal in every game and not do a lot else, I'll take that.
But turns out he's doing a lot of other things too. He bullies defenders, and draws out defenders, he brings others into play, and for a big lad he can shift through the gears.
He'll never be the finesse player everyone desires, but he's effective. It's the difference between buying a lump like Rickie Lambert/Andy Carroll and expecting it to potentially work, or going for someone like Lukaku who has always looked like more than a handful.
But turns out he's doing a lot of other things too. He bullies defenders, and draws out defenders, he brings others into play, and for a big lad he can shift through the gears.
He'll never be the finesse player everyone desires, but he's effective. It's the difference between buying a lump like Rickie Lambert/Andy Carroll and expecting it to potentially work, or going for someone like Lukaku who has always looked like more than a handful.
The notion he'd find it harder at United than he did at Everton is starting to look a bit silly.
What else does he have to do to impress you?
He has impressed since coming to us, he's leading the line, linking up well with others and scoring nearly every single game. But how dare we not get carried away when our main striker scores 8 in 8
I just don't think he's a good footballer, he has poor movement and poor ball skills. He has scored 8 but he's missed a a ton of chances as well. I think he will get found out when we play any decent team.
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Like against Madrid? Or did you check his goal scoring record vs Man City?
He has such poor movement that he managed to get into enough good positions to score 8 in 8 and miss a ton of chances? How does that work? Pot luck? All down to his team mates?
Wasn't aware we had lost him.
I just googled his record against top 6 teams and unsurprisingly it's pretty woeful. 5 goals in 35 games. Hopefully I get proved wrong but I'm not impressed as much as some of the forum.
Poor movement? He makes up so much space or runs into space. You dont score so many goals in the past 4 years whilst being a poor footballer. And how many tons of chances did he exactly miss?
Where are you getting your stats from? It's more like 15 in 60 - so whilst hardly great, it is 1 in 4, not 1 in 7.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/romelu-lukaku-record-top-six-10753781
I was very happy when we signed Lukaku, I think his out put has been impressive so far. But i think there is still something missing in his game. Kane, Augero can do something on their own. Lukaku depends on service.
He has missed 4 big chances in the league so far. Kane has missed 3 and Aguero 5. Nothing to be concerned about there. Before Zlatan got injured last year he had missed something like double the next worst player.
Not a chance. I think if both are isolated on their own against a clear favourite, i will take Lukaku easily. His pace and power are absolutely devastating on the counter, or with a long ball up bypassing the midfield.
Such a lopsided argument. He plays for WBA and Everton ffs. Quite often, both teams parked buses against the top 6 teams, leaving him isolated against the entire defence.
In the last 2 seasons itself he scored 8 goals vs top 6.
Baffling. Cannot agree with any of that.
If Lukaku doesn't impress you currently I do not know who will. His movement has been great so far this season, out attack is so much better than last season and your still not happy.
Why do you lie in order to prove a point? He scored 3 goals alone against United in Fergie's last game. He scored in both games against City last season and got a goal agaisnt both Arsenal and Tottenham.
@Jagga7 Those stats are absolutely incorrect. He has a 1 in 4 record.
Name a striker outside of the top 6 that has a better record? You can't right? Because it's a lazy stat, the top 6 are the top 6 for a reason, teams outside of that group don't often create much against them.
Still early days but Ronaldo's record of 31 league goals in 07/08 might be broken by Lukaku. He plays, he scores.
It's under threat for sure.
Exactly. Top 6 usually concede between 30 and 40 goals per season, so about 1 per game or fewer. Out of that I bet more than 30% are conceded against fellow top 6 teams meaning they probably concede 20-25 over remaining 28 games against non-top 6 teams. Basic statistics will tell you that 1 in 4 record is basically what you would expect from a forward leading the line for a team outside top 6 against them.
43 in all comps. World class. Was always a bargain at the price and an absolute sure thing because he's scored goals at two clubs in the Premier League over 4 or 5 seasons.
Golden Boot could be very interesting with Rom, Kane, Morata and Aguero.
Golden Boot could be very interesting with Rom, Kane, Morata and Aguero.
Without even having to check, my guess is in those games Everton got dominated pretty much 80% of the time. Not exactly fair to use that as a comparison.
I feel I shouldn't even bother saying this but here goes, yet again.
1) All strikers score fewer goals against the top sides
2) His record last season bears comparison with all his key rivals, despite the fact they played for top 6 sides and he was playing for an average Everton who finished 7th
3) Yes, if you look at his career stats against the top 6 they aren't amazing but what would you expect when those stats inlcude time as a 19/20 year old at WBA
More here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39521532
1) All strikers score fewer goals against the top sides
2) His record last season bears comparison with all his key rivals, despite the fact they played for top 6 sides and he was playing for an average Everton who finished 7th
3) Yes, if you look at his career stats against the top 6 they aren't amazing but what would you expect when those stats inlcude time as a 19/20 year old at WBA
More here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39521532
As Lukaku's switch to United neared, his record against the big guns of English football came under the microscope.
Over the past two seasons versus the top six from last season (Chelsea, Tottenham, City, Liverpool, Arsenal and United), Lukaku has scored five times set against 38 facing other top-flight sides.
This gives a top-six percentage of 11.6 and is a smaller proportion than those returned by Aguero, Kane, Costa and Sanchez.
Aguero leads the way on this metric, with nine of his 44 goals coming in the big games (20.5 per cent). Kane also has nine in an overall haul of 54 (16.7 per cent).
Like Lukaku, Sanchez scored five times in these fixtures but yields a better percentage return of 13.5 due to having 37 goals overall in the period. Four of Costa's 32 strikes (12.5 per cent) came versus the top six.
Read more at https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/fl...kakus-premier-league-rise#ZjP71lu458QcVod1.99
That's the article I just skimmed over earlier. But regardless of what the stats say I personally don't believe he's a top echelon striker. People seem to think he's world class and I think that's absurd.
Over the past two seasons versus the top six from last season (Chelsea, Tottenham, City, Liverpool, Arsenal and United), Lukaku has scored five times set against 38 facing other top-flight sides.
This gives a top-six percentage of 11.6 and is a smaller proportion than those returned by Aguero, Kane, Costa and Sanchez.
Aguero leads the way on this metric, with nine of his 44 goals coming in the big games (20.5 per cent). Kane also has nine in an overall haul of 54 (16.7 per cent).
Like Lukaku, Sanchez scored five times in these fixtures but yields a better percentage return of 13.5 due to having 37 goals overall in the period. Four of Costa's 32 strikes (12.5 per cent) came versus the top six.
Read more at https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/fl...kakus-premier-league-rise#ZjP71lu458QcVod1.99
That's the article I just skimmed over earlier. But regardless of what the stats say I personally don't believe he's a top echelon striker. People seem to think he's world class and I think that's absurd.
So far so good from Rom, hopefully he maintains this rate of conversion. If he gets better at pens he’d be able to stat pad a bit to reach it.
Wow. How about we judge him in May? If he has 30+ goals by then I doubt you'll be calling him an "average finisher". He's doing his job at the minute and that's scoring. He's working well in our system and he'll only going to get better. Jose will improve him over the next few years.
It's fine to believe he's not world class but you have to get the stats right. You also have to use appropriate stats. For instance take into consideration who he was playing for, how early in his career he was during those games. Simple stuff that renders the stat pretty useless.
Less see how he gets on now he's approaching his peak and playing for a good team.
Shocking. If you're not impressed now with his 8 in 8 run chances are you'll never be. The minute he goes on a small goal draught you'll be among the first to say 'I told uou so' or mete out some type of criticism. You just don't rate him. Who would've been your preferred signing from available options this summer? I'll take a guess and say you were probably on team Morata
People are so obsessed with striker's link up play, it's like years of watching Messi has deprived people of idea what strikers are actually supposed to do on the pitch, i.e. score goals. Back in 90s and early 2000s you had players like Batistuta, Vieri, Inzaghi who were all about goals but would be absolutely hated now because they 'don't drop back and create'.
Horrendous comment. His movement is brilliant. He's missed 3 chances, while scoring the vast majority of the chances that have come his way. Agenda-driven rubbish.
LOL what??? Agenda driven, I don't fecking work in the media. I made personal opinion on a football forum, you need to get a fecking grip.
Maybe you shouldn't be stating a personal opinion regarding shot conversion, when there are actual stats available? I don't know, just an idea.
What exactly is the point? That if Lukaku scores less against smaller teams his percentage would increase? How are those big teams considered? Is Liverpool considered big game then they finished 8th and not Leicester when they were champions?
It's full of holes and doesn't make any sense at all.
Yeh I do think Morata is a better player.
Lukaku had a good start but let's see if he can do in the big games against the top sides. So far he's done it against teams we've expected to beat.
What are on about? It's an article that shows he has a lower scoring percentage than the other top strikers against the top 6 teams last season.
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