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Or maybe his manager hasnt got a fecking clue how to play him in his actual role and is trying to hammer a square peg in a round hole, then add in that half the team are in the same boat and its no surprises it looks disjointed and a right fecking mess.
You'd expect a "world class" midfielder to be able to play in a midfield 2 and follow some directions/instructions from his manager?
Now I think people are writing those lies about Pogba to seack attention. It's unbelievable the way some are going over the hill to tarnish his personality. What has he done wrong to deserve such a level of hate from some people?
Thats just it, Jose tried a couple of different systems and none of them worked, at all, but why take your best players and expect them to play in terrible systems in the first place? you play to your strengths. Do you think they're going to respond well to such a change in system followed by being thrown under the bus week in week out when it back fires?
As was evidenced upon his arrival in Turin, he was miles too good to be playing reserve football for us. How much was he asking for exactly? You know, since you're so clued in on all this.
You're wasting your time, honestly.
I'm just always surprised seeing people make things up that are commonly known to be false. I'm not sure if they believe it themselves or if they are trying to wind people up.
The fact people still believe that SAF wanted rid of him is amazing. If they can’t be bothered to get that right then it’s just about criticising regardless of facts.
That’s news to me. So many myths doing the rounds about his move to Juve. Where did you hear that?I can smell your hate from here
We offered him more money than Juve.
He hasn't been underperforming for 2 seasons.
Stop being deluded and believing he is world class.
I think that he hasn't been played quite right although against Cardiff he was played more how I'd like to see him get played. I'd like to see him played in a sort of Lampard role as an 8/10 hybrid type of player.
I've said for a while he needs to be further forward.
I can’t remember the exact source, may have been Fergie or gill.
It's clear you're a victim of Mourinho's brain washing tactic. It was clear like day that every player suffered from inconsistence under Mourinho but you chosed to attack only Pogba.
That's the one I referred to, Pog. But someone took down the clip. (or maybe you're just helping out with new clip).
Yeh, man. They'd notice mistakes easily, and talk in length about it
That's the part that I find confusing. We purchased that player, that's the player that we rated enough to spend 90m. While you can try to change him, you can't criticize him for not being something that he has never been. We didn't purchase a player that was performing deeper, we didn't purchase a game manager, we purchased a player that creates chances in the last third and that was supported by two players one being a box to box(Vidal or Marchisio) and the other being a deep lying playmaker(Pirlo).
This exactly. Pity Jose isn't as astute at realising this as you and maybe we'd have been getting better performances out of him regularly.
Or you know, a crunching tackle. Stuff they love so muchYeh, man. They'd notice mistakes easily, and talk in length about it
When you think about it the only reason people are harping about Pogba playing at a high level deeper is because he is massive, his actual qualities would never lead to that conclusion. People will mention France but he isn't great or consistent for France, he is generally a good piece in a functional team, he doesn't look like a WC player in that setup.
This is the Pogba thread, no?
He played as a CM in a midfield 2 on occasion for Juve, as well as a standard Left midfielder in a 4.
It sure doesn't read like that to be honest. Specially the whole bits about his supposedly bad behavior
You said it yourself "on occasion" so that's not what justified the transfer fee or his rating. The second point is just nonsense, he mainly played in a midfield two for us and has mainly been our best player in the last three seasons, so claiming that he has been utterly useless is baffling. That's the issue that people have with your "non agenda", it doesn't match with reality.
He played alongside Kante and Matuidi. Hardly a midfield two.
It's a Pogba thread, but you're telling us that he isn't world class, so you must be able to prove it and the best way to do so is by comparing his performance with a midfielder you deem world class.
This is absolutely not true. Jose probably deserved to be fired and he has been fired. That's fine. But let's not rewrite history to hang him. Pogba played some incredibly brilliant games under Jose. Cross field passes, cheeky dribbles, forward runs, etc. We have seen a number of them in the last three years or so. The problem was that he was never consistent and let the team down occasionally. Plus his agent did not help matters. He was not benched when he played brilliantly. He was benched when he didn't and because of off field issues with his manager.
You do realise that going ridiculously overboard just stops people taking you seriously?
Love him but I think it's too soon..
The tweet is nonsense, agreed. Only clip of that pass I could find though. It’s a fecking lovely pass.
Agreed. Just let the guy play football man.
Even Griezman comes towards midfield areas and it gives him this way many passing options. That's some special history editing to say he plays in a midfield 2 for France (obviously this isn't aimed at you)
No, you would. But there's lots of good reasons why other people don't, including some elite managers he's played under. If you see discipline as an extension of effort, and you think everyone should have the same capacity for effort, then it's not unreasonable to think that he should be able to do that. Lots of other football cultures don't think that way at all, and lots of psychological theories would challenge that notion of effort, grit, or whatever you want to call it.
This is a general point well received and understood mostly. Curiously enough the detractors often pretend or actually have a much higher expectations from Pogba than others.
