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The occasional good game but in general on the fringes like he was today.



His average position actually ends up almost on top of Ander today. Central midfield again slightly further back than Pogba, like against Spurs
 

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If we can get Alexis even half firing he'd probably be a better option than Jesse through the middle and definitely more clinical. Jesse has a habit of missing the easier chances and scoring the odd screamer here or there.
 

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If we can get Alexis even half firing he'd probably be a better option than Jesse through the middle and definitely more clinical. Jesse has a habit of missing the easier chances and scoring the odd screamer here or there.
Exactly. Sanchez is his current 1 year United form isn't worse than Jesse so that's something to build on. He also has a fantastic work rate so you're not really losing any positives by replacing him.
 

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Didn't think this match would suit his style, he needs teams that push us back, like Tottenham last week, so there are spaces in behind for him to run into, that is his strength. I would have had Mata, or even Pereira in the side today. Alexis has done nothing yet to prove he should be in the starting eleven, still waiting to be convinced.
 

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I just don't think Lindgard is good enough whatsoever. Really hate seeing him in the starting 11. He does track back but doesn't really do anything. He is a useful quad player to be at Man United but definitly not good enough to be starting each week.

I would rather see Sanchez starting.
 

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I just don't think Lindgard is good enough whatsoever. Really hate seeing him in the starting 11. He does track back but doesn't really do anything. He is a useful quad player to be at Man United but definitly not good enough to be starting each week.

I would rather see Sanchez starting.
Sanchez has done absolutely nothing in a United shirt, why do people think he is so much better than Lingard, I just don't see it.
 

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Sanchez has done absolutely nothing in a United shirt, why do people think he is so much better than Lingard, I just don't see it.
Not too many players in the United Squad have done anything this season either under Mourinho.

Sanchez has more talent than Lingard ever will.

Look at Sanchez at Arsenal, if Ole can get him playing like that he will be like a new signing.

I would keep Lingard definitely as a squad player and can be useful tactically but no where near world class.
 
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Not too many players in the United Squad have done anything this season either under Mourinho.

Sanchez has more talent than Lingard ever will.

Look at Sanchez at Arsenal, if Ole can get him playing like that he will be like a new signing.

I would keep Lingard definitely as a squad player and can be useful tactically but no where near world class.

Sanchez may be one of the most talented players in the prem, but I repeat, he had not shown it in a United shirt, yet. I hope you are right, and we do see the player that was so good for Arsenal, but I do remember a certain Axel Tuanzebe marking him out of the game once. Lingard needs to be played in games where we are pushed back, he is good at making runs in behind, a game like today, in my opinion, was not the game for him.
 

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Sanchez may be one of the most talented players in the prem, but I repeat, he had not shown it in a United shirt, yet. I hope you are right, and we do see the player that was so good for Arsenal, but I do remember a certain Axel Tuanzebe marking him out of the game once. Lingard needs to be played in games where we are pushed back, he is good at making runs in behind, a game like today, in my opinion, was not the game for him.
Lingard hasn't really shown it either in a United shirt to be starting week in, week out. He is a headless chicken at times and get's lost in games. Lindgard reminds me of a better version of Wellbeck but still not world class.

Could you see Lingard starting for City or Liverpool? I don't think he would even make the bench.
 

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Sanchez has done absolutely nothing in a United shirt, why do people think he is so much better than Lingard, I just don't see it.
Probably because in form Sanchez was a really good player for Arsenal. Better than Lingard has ever been for us.

For example in 15/16 he scored 13 goals with 4 assists in the league for Arsenal in 28 starts and 2 sub appearances.

He started 9 of those games on the right side with 6 goals and 2 assists.

So he's shown he can do well on the right side for a run of games. Lingard and Mata arent providing the toughest competition for the role so its worth giving him a chance
 

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Probably because in form Sanchez was a really good player for Arsenal. Better than Lingard has ever been for us.

For example in 15/16 he scored 13 goals with 4 assists in the league for Arsenal in 28 starts and 2 sub appearances.

He started 9 of those games on the right side with 6 goals and 2 assists.

So he's shown he can do well on the right side for a run of games. Lingard and Mata arent providing the toughest competition for the role so its worth giving him a chance
I agree, at Arsenal he was an excellent player, not at Old Trafford though, I do not dispute what he was, just hasn't shown it for us, whereas Lingard has shown, on occasions admittedly, that in a United shirt he can be very productive.
Yes, I would like to see him play on the right hand side, and Friday may be an ideal opportunity for him.
 

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I agree, at Arsenal he was an excellent player, not at Old Trafford though, I do not dispute what he was, just hasn't shown it for us.
I think he's been a bit better than given credit for. For example last season he averaged 2.2 key passes a game, that was the most in the team.

And if he did that this season he'd be far and away our biggest chance creator because this season our most are Pogba and Martial both with 1.6 and right behind is Sanchez with 1.5

He doesnt have as many individual moments, scoring goals etc as several of our attacking players since he joined, but in terms of creating chances for teammates he's been one of our best. He has given the ball away a lot whilst doing it though
 

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The occasional good game but in general on the fringes like he was today.



His average position actually ends up almost on top of Ander today. Central midfield again slightly further back than Pogba, like against Spurs
Pogba the midfielder looks to be operating as part of our front three moreso than actual "winger" Lingard. but this hole on our RW remains.
 

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Pogba the midfielder looks to be operating as part of our front three moreso than actual "winger" Lingard. but this hole on our RW remains.
Yep Pogba was slightly further forward than Lingard against Spurs too. Its a minimal amount but still, you'd expect Lingard to be closer to the attack than Pogba
 

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Hasn't been good for the last couple of matches , missed a sitter that luckily not costing us in the end. I think Sanchez deserve to get a chance.
 
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They are clueless. Work rate is a skill like shooting passing or headers. Lingard is world clase at work rate. Im not his biggest fan and think he shouldnt start against tame opposition but people have very single track minds
World class at work rate?! Do you fecking hear yourself?! :lol:
 

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I still think Lingard offers a lot for us, but this is probably the kind of game he shouldn't start. He's more valuable in the big games where he can run teams ragged and put the opposition under pressure when they're playing out, but he's not as useful to us when we're trying to break teams down.

He looks pretty tired as well and could use a rest.
 

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Sanchez has done absolutely nothing in a United shirt, why do people think he is so much better than Lingard, I just don't see it.
But he has in many other shirts. Why should he not be doing it for us too? He didnt click under Jose. Hes recovering from an injury and once hes fit should get a chance under OGS. Sanchez at even half his ability anywhere else is miles ahead of bang average jlingz.
 

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World class at work rate?! Do you fecking hear yourself?! :lol:
Yeah I'm sure me and the managers are clueless. I don't want to be in a position to defend Jesse because we was crap this week and isn't the best but if you can't understand how some players are world class at having high work rate, quit wasting your time trying to analyze players.

Kante, Beckham, Neville are few other players who had world class work rate. You think it's that easy why don't you "run around the pitch" like they do?
 

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Yeah I'm sure me and the managers are clueless. I don't want to be in a position to defend Jesse because we was crap this week and isn't the best but if you can't understand how some players are world class at having high work rate, quit wasting your time trying to analyze players.

Kante, Beckham, Neville are few other players who had world class work rate. You think it's that easy why don't you "run around the pitch" like they do?
Do you truly fail to recognise the distinction between work rate complementing one's game, and work rate being one's game? Beckham, Kante etc are great players made better by their phenomenal work rate. Lingard, in contrast, occupies the latter category: his game depends entirely on his work rate.

By the way, not sure when I said that what Lingard does is 'easy'; also not sure when I suggested that I could do the same. I couldn't, he's definitely better at football than I am - he could almost be a professional.
 

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Doesn’t provide enough of a goal threat to occupy the front three positions.

He’s fine starting just now but we should be looking for a right sided forward for the summer.
 

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Doesn’t provide enough of a goal threat to occupy the front three positions.

He’s fine starting just now but we should be looking for a right sided forward for the summer.
I agree. Like many I recognise his qualities (mainly off the ball movement and work rate) and he has the odd game where he really shines, but we need someone better to complete the front three.

Lingard is unlikely to improve any more, whereas both Rashford and Martial can and continue to. I think a right sided player who can also come inside would be ideal, a left footer perhaps who can cross with both feet and has pace and trickery to beat a man. We would then have a fluid front three who could all interchange and be dangerous on the counter.

A dominant CB to allow the fullbacks to push on even more and provide width, especially at home against packed defences, and maybe a more mobile DM/deep lying playmaker to eventually replace Matic (although he's been excellent in recent weeks) could really complete the team.

It's all very fanciful and I don't know who exactly these players are, so our scouting department really need to earn their pay, but I think this is what the club should concentrate on in the summer, whoever the new manager is.

Jesse still has a place in the team but I don't think as a regular. There will be times when a change of tactics could really really require him though, like that first half against Spurs.
 

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He seems like a great option when playing against fellow top six teams and tough away fixtures, as his runs and work rate come in real handy, but not so much against relatively easier opposition.

Hoping for a Sanchez chance sooner rather than later, to see how he integrates with martial and rashford.
 

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Funny how the people who are saying that work rate is the least that should be expected from a Manchester United player are the same ones that get offended by any Martial criticism.
Absolutely this.

If work rate were a given then Martial would be crucified for running 8.9km on average per 90 compared with Lingard 11.7km (figures for CL this season).

Therefore you can either hugely praise Lingard for runnng a third more or criticise Martial for barely running at all. You can't have you cake and eat it.
 

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I guess you also rate both Jones and Young highly, and thinks they are good enough for our first team simply because they are part of the winning team that won the last 6 games?
If you have try to separate your anger and read what I said then you realize I didn't say he is great, I also believe he should be squad player.
But some of you got way over the top when you criticizing him.
Make a peace with him, he is hear for long time.
 

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Sanchez may be one of the most talented players in the prem, but I repeat, he had not shown it in a United shirt, yet. I hope you are right, and we do see the player that was so good for Arsenal, but I do remember a certain Axel Tuanzebe marking him out of the game once. Lingard needs to be played in games where we are pushed back, he is good at making runs in behind, a game like today, in my opinion, was not the game for him.
What has Pereira done to make you think he should be starting then? Last time he played he had an awful game.
 

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He seems like a great option when playing against fellow top six teams and tough away fixtures, as his runs and work rate come in real handy, but not so much against relatively easier opposition.

Hoping for a Sanchez chance sooner rather than later, to see how he integrates with martial and rashford.
I think the issue is Young will not going to cover whole right side, if Sanchez will play there we might need some one to cover right side.
 

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The occasional good game but in general on the fringes like he was today.



His average position actually ends up almost on top of Ander today. Central midfield again slightly further back than Pogba, like against Spurs

What I take out of this is the dismal state of our non-existent threat on the right.

Ashley fecking young is expected to be our threat down that side with our left being congested and the right is just crying out with space for an attacker to come in and do damage.
 

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The occasional good game but in general on the fringes like he was today.



His average position actually ends up almost on top of Ander today. Central midfield again slightly further back than Pogba, like against Spurs
I'm curious, what did we look like under Mourinho?
 

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For me instrumental in winning since Ole came. He needs to find a consistency to his game and yep he could be upgraded but 9 out the 11 players could do also as there is generally always better out there. Sanchez ceiling and others coming in too might be higher but we also know that's not always enough. Lingards effort may not be enough for some but it goes a long long way to contributing to winning football matches.
 

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Didn't see the game yesterday, but most of the media comments I've read are negative.

Without doubt he is a matchday squad player, but he seems to be having the problem of consistency which is a concern for his age. With Sanchez returning from fitness, he has not done enough to nail down his place.

I'd start him v Arsenal, partly due to the fact that the open game would suit him, but I'd look to rotate him with Sanchez for the Burnley game and assess things from there. As it stands, I'd be starting a fully fit Sanchez over Lingard
 

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For me instrumental in winning since Ole came. He needs to find a consistency to his game and yep he could be upgraded but 9 out the 11 players could do also as there is generally always better out there. Sanchez ceiling and others coming in too might be higher but we also know that's not always enough. Lingards effort may not be enough for some but it goes a long long way to contributing to winning football matches.
Can you honestly pinpoint yesterday what he did that made us win the match?. It reminds me of nevillles “silent domination”. In this formation we need more of an individual threat out wide to break down teams.

Lingard is great when a match is stretched and he gets more Space. These games aren’t for him.
 
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