SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

[Maticmaker]

For some reason when I lived in the UK, I had the impression he was a reputable journalist. That's awful.

Peston's backside well and truly exposed, by Van Tam

Robert should stick to attacking politicians... but then again he wasn't much use at that. Peston had a career with the BBC, but he left and following the Peter Principle ITN promoted him to his level of incompetence.

 

[Adisa]

Murica could soon be looking at 2000+ daily deaths.

 

[spiriticon]

I’m positive for Covid19 as of yesterday. I’ve been dealing with so many patients recently that any one of them may have given it to me. I’ve worn a (surgical) mask every single time I saw a patient, wore gloves, asked them to look the opposite direction while I take bloods from their arm.

I’m feeling pretty damn rough. The headache is nauseating and constant. The dry cough has become more frequent. I’ve bought a pulse oximetry device that should arrive today as that’s the best indicator of when you’re starting to go downhill.

Our hospital was about to abolish “specialities” from next week too. Everyone becomes a Covid doctor and assigned a random ward every week.
There was a meeting on Tuesday that I missed that said that the hospital are expecting 150 to a 1000 Covid patients to be admitted within the next month or so. Shits getting real in Wales (although the Newport area seems to be the worst hit in the UK going by “per capita” or something like that).

FML get well soon mate T_T

 

[Maagge]

Why do all journalists have this holier than thou, infallible attitude and think they are somehow immune to criticism because they are the ones asking the questions?

Because they think they're just asking questions to get the public informed. The issue is in this case he was posing his questions as if they were facts instead of just asking: "What can this test help us with?" and "How does it solve problems we've struggled with so far/will struggle with down the line?".

His constant talking in the middle of the professors answer tells me he was desperate to show he knew what he was talking about and that he's as smart as the expert.

 

[vodrake]

"Plans to ramp up testing" is the UK Governments version of "Preparing a bid"

 

[sullydnl]

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[The Cat]

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Unbelievable.

 

[balaks]

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Behold - this is what we are dealing with in Northern Ireland - large groups of people who think like this.

 

[sullydnl]

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UK getting a lot of criticism for its testing but what's the story with France and Japan?

 

[BluesJr]

Traffic and public transport usage up in the last day apparently. Why is the British public like this? Genuinely hate the mentality here.

Government have obviously botched it but have some fecking common sense.

 

[vodrake]

Traffic and public transport usage up in the last day apparently. Why is the British public like this? Genuinely hate the mentality here.

Government have obviously botched it but have some fecking common sense.

There's probably plenty of perfectly logical reasons why other than "British people are dicks", but I do wonder if there's any link with the rise and the push in the media and government in the last couple of days that the social distancing and isolation measures are starting to work, plenty of talk of "cases plateauing", "less hospital admissions each day", "green shoots", etc.

There's maybe been too much push that the measures are working, and not enough push that this doesn't mean we can start relaxing them yet

 

[Fully Fledged]

Cases have jumped from 51 to 79 in a day round here after generally being around 5-6 a day for the past few days and 3-4 before that. Don't know if that's just an anomoly or have they ramped up testing in UK?

Case in my area went up by 47 yesterday to 198. We are now on 73.5 cases/100 000 population.

 

[Virgil]

Why do people insist on comparing apples and oranges?

Because it’s how we are. Nowhere near as good as comparing lemons and satsumas as between U.K. and Germany.

 

[Maticmaker]

There's probably plenty of perfectly logical reasons why other than "British people are dicks", but I do wonder if there's any link with the rise and the push in the media and government in the last couple of days that the social distancing and isolation measures are starting to work, plenty of talk of "cases plateauing", "less hospital admissions each day", "green shoots", etc.

There's maybe been too much push that the measures are working, and not enough push that this doesn't mean we can start relaxing them yet

Or, that the low figure was recorded on a Sunday and the slightly higher figure on a Monday... start of the working week, for those who still are working!

 

[Solius]

A girl I went to school with has shared a conspiracy theory and oh my god the replies. I've already bitten to the original post but I'm so close to going in fully sarcastic with everyone else who I don't even know.

 

[Virgil]

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What a bellend.

Yes like myself and every poster on this and every other forum. Whoever it was that said a little knowledge is a dangerous thing was certainly well on the mark. Trouble is we are hooked in our own bubbles.

 

[RedSky]

A girl I went to school with has shared a conspiracy theory and oh my god the replies. I've already bitten to the original post but I'm so close to going in fully sarcastic with everyone else who I don't even know.

Lemme guess. RUSSIANS did it!

 

[André Dominguez]

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I'm pretty sure people like him would bring the Inquistion back if it was legally possible.

 

[Fully Fledged]

I’m positive for Covid19 as of yesterday. I’ve been dealing with so many patients recently that any one of them may have given it to me. I’ve worn a (surgical) mask every single time I saw a patient, wore gloves, asked them to look the opposite direction while I take bloods from their arm.

I’m feeling pretty damn rough. The headache is nauseating and constant. The dry cough has become more frequent. I’ve bought a pulse oximetry device that should arrive today as that’s the best indicator of when you’re starting to go downhill.

Our hospital was about to abolish “specialities” from next week too. Everyone becomes a Covid doctor and assigned a random ward every week.
There was a meeting on Tuesday that I missed that said that the hospital are expecting 150 to a 1000 Covid patients to be admitted within the next month or so. Shits getting real in Wales (although the Newport area seems to be the worst hit in the UK going by “per capita” or something like that).

Feck look after yourself and all the best.

 

[Mogget]

Whether there is a Deity involved or not is very debatable, but when a sizable part of the human species accepts the curtailing of its numbers via the abortion of the innocent, i.e.those who have no say in their own destruction, then there is an irony when a virulent virus appears and joins in the culling of other innocents, who also have no say in their destruction.

These kind of hypothesis will only grow as the pandemic continues.

Take this nonsense somewhere else please.

 

[Redlambs]

Traffic and public transport usage up in the last day apparently. Why is the British public like this? Genuinely hate the mentality here.

Government have obviously botched it but have some fecking common sense.

I've just done a 300mile round trip for a job (and it was essential work for a hospital) and there was plenty of both local and motorway traffic. In fact in both towns I was in, it was like a normal day.

Absolutely no fecking way all those were essential journies.

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

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What a bellend.

What a dick.

"My view has always been that we should respect experts but not assume they are always correct."

That's because he's a conceited idiot who doesn't listen. Now trying to divert attention instead of what he should do... hold his hands up, say he was wrong and learn to listen more.

My view has always been that when you're speaking to an expert in the field, assume they know lots more than me and (at most), ask for clarity on things.

 

[The Firestarter]

Whether there is a Deity involved or not is very debatable, but when a sizable part of the human species accepts the curtailing of its numbers via the abortion of the innocent, i.e.those who have no say in their own destruction, then there is an irony when a virulent virus appears and joins in the culling of other innocents, who also have no say in their destruction.

These kind of hypothesis will only grow as the pandemic continues.

@Grinner

 

[Maticmaker]

Take this nonsense somewhere else please.

Struck a chord maybe...?

 

[Redlambs]

Struck a chord maybe...?

That's a standard weirdo conspiracy response if ever I've seen one

 

[Solius]

Lemme guess. RUSSIANS did it!

No apparently the government want to crush small businesses and there are death certificates being faked to say Covid-19. Also David Icke apparently said it's a conspiracy and his record is flawless so I'm sold.

The Illuminati would've gotten away with it as well if it wasn't for the Facebook huns who do their friends nails and call it a business.

 

[RedSky]

No apparently the government want to crush small businesses and there are death certificates being faked to say Covid-19. Also David Icke apparently said it's a conspiracy and his record is flawless so I'm sold.

The Illuminati would've gotten away with it as well if it wasn't for the Facebook huns who do their friends nails and call it a business.

I'm sold.

 

[Penna]

That's a standard weirdo conspiracy response if ever I've seen one

He didn't say he believed it to be the case - he said it's the kind of thing that people will start saying as things get worse.

 

[Mogget]

Struck a chord maybe...?

There's already a separate thread to discuss whether abortion is the destruction of innocent life. I don't see how it's relevant to this thread.

 

[Maticmaker]

That's a standard weirdo conspiracy response if ever I've seen one

Takes one to know one...I guess?

 

[Sweet Square]

There's already a separate thread to discuss whether abortion is the destruction of innocent life. I don't see how it's relevant to this thread.

In fairness I also don't view Tories as human beings so his argument is useless.

This is a joke

 

[Maticmaker]

He didn't say he believed it to be the case - he said it's the kind of thing that people will start saying as things get worse.

Exactly, thank you... taste of things to come, especially when people sat at home poised over their keyboard!

 

[Fully Fledged]

I would certainly wear a mask if I could actually get hold of a supply.
But try as I might, it is close to impossible in England.

Yep.

 

[jymufc20]

"Plans to ramp up testing" is the UK Governments version of "Preparing a bid"

In 48 hours.

 

[Shakesy]

Why do all journalists have this holier than thou, infallible attitude and think they are somehow immune to criticism because they are the ones asking the questions?

Don't generalize. Not all journalists are like that. They are taught to grill experts and they see themselves as the voice of the people in a democratic society.

I get it that some are against this, but that won't stop them from doing their job. This journalist is obviously a bellend, but don't dismiss his profession.

 

[Redlambs]

Takes one to know one...I guess?

Struck a chord maybe?

He didn't say he believed it to be the case - he said it's the kind of thing that people will start saying as things get worse.

That standard conspiracy response to someone merely saying take it to another thread suggests otherwise.

And mogget is correct here.

 

[horsechoker]

Don't generalize. Not all journalists are like that. They are taught to grill experts and they see themselves as the voice of the people in a democratic society.

I get it that some are against this, but that won't stop them from doing their job. This journalist is obviously a bellend, but don't dismiss his profession.

Journalist spotted.

Get 'im boys!

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

Whether there is a Deity involved or not is very debatable, but when a sizable part of the human species accepts the curtailing of its numbers via the abortion of the innocent, i.e.those who have no say in their own destruction, then there is an irony when a virulent virus appears and joins in the culling of other innocents, who also have no say in their destruction.

These kind of hypothesis will only grow as the pandemic continues.

I'm an atheist... I don't tell anyone what faith to have (or not have) and don't expect others to try and tell me what to believe in. In-laws are church going Christians, mate is a Muslim ... all good.

But, if there was a god (who is apparently all powerful and can do anything) and he felt a virus killing innocents was 'karma', I'd want no part of him anyway.

I doubt any rational believer in a god thinks like this guy though... who doesn't understand that in trying to bring people who may be 50/50 into their faith, his comments ("you reap what you sow") probably help drive them further away. Now that's ironic.

 

[FrankDrebin]

"Briton has had enough of experts"

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[Jippy]

I had a debate here if masks are helpful or not. Here from Fauci who says that 'in a perfect world with unlimited supplied, everyone wearing a mask would help stop the spread'.

Tbh, while no-one is claiming they're a panacea, the debate on efficacy of masks still seems to be ongoing.

Prof Heymann added: “There is right now a debate about the usefulness of masks because Hong Kong has provided some evidence that masks may be useful in protecting individuals from infection.

“It’s not clear yet whether or not that’s true.

“The WHO, the group that I work with, is debating that with a group of experts from around the world to understand whether there is evidence which would call for a change in what WHO is recommending.”

Excuse source- https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11308...rotect-against-coronavirus-experts-dont-work/