This is true certainly in Hong Kong, if you go wander about without a mask now, you will be frowned upon.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Hi neighbour! I've never walked in to that Tesco unimpeded, it's like people walk in and turn into floor/ceiling tile enthusiasts.
Did you find any eggs in there?
Had to go and pick up a prescription at the war memorial hospital/clinic and they have a bucket ton of calpol/lemsip/paracetamol if you need it and can't find it anywhere else.
There's a lot of at risk people round our way, if there's an outbreak around here it's going to get pretty scary pretty quickly
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So true. Any protection is worth something (mask in regular tissue), the proper masks should be left to the medical workers and sick people.
This fecking selfish world we live in.
Fair enough
Thanks, that's very useful and the footnotes make things extra clear.
Did you call the police? It's going to get worse next week, the weather's warming up in the UK. Some people think that gives them a green card to go out and have fun.
It seems like a million years since anything was open here, even for a cup of coffee.
No problem!
Do explain why the pale blue lines are all countries where most people wear masks.
I don't think I've been clear. It stops the spread via already infected people. If you are wearing a mask and are not infected the evidence is that it does little to protect you.
Agreed, I don't think I was clear enough. The masks help for sure if the infected wear them. The evidence I've read suggests it isn't protective for non infected persons. (though I'm still doubtful about that despite the science being done)
Yes, they do. The masks stop that. If you aren't infected a mask likely won't help you.
**edit. define mask...that's also going to have a huge impact!
Bookies and online betting must be dying on their arse during this time. I can't remember the last bet I placed. Some positivity.
Do explain why the pale blue lines are all countries where most people wear masks.
You sure that's true for Singapore?
Over 80% of folks in places like Hong Kong, China, Taiwan have said they wear a mask in public places throughout the last 6 weeks. Around 25% of folks in Singapore have said the same...consistently throughout the month. According to this data anyway.
And of course the trajectory for Japan now is quite a bit different to what it was back in mid-March, despite the extensive use of masks. There's a few other countries in Asia that are beginning to show worrying signs despite widespread (claimed) use of masks too.
All of which taken together might suggest there's other things that Singapore, Hong Kong, Korea (and Taiwan) have in common than masks.
Bulk lingerie buyers.
I've heard that there will be a virtual grand national tomorrow on the tv.
My immediate thought too was that that is illegal surely?
The WHO has to deal in facts and they aren't omniscient, it seems like there are very few certainties about the virus even within the expert community. So releasing bits of information based on the studies that they can get seems like the logical or perhaps only thing to do.
a pub in Mansfield was open, brewery and police came and took all the stock away.
Who the feck needs more research to know that wearing a mask is better than not wearing one during a global pandemic?
WHO are clowns.
There's a Guardian article about some Telecoms Engineers in the UK being verbally and physically threatened and Facebook groups of people videoing themselves destroying phone equipment because of a conspiracy theory going around that the Coronavirus is caused by 5G. 
https://khn.org/news/as-coronavirus...-americans-live-in-counties-with-no-icu-beds/
Bit of a concern perhaps for some Americans
There's a Guardian article about some Telecoms Engineers in the UK being verbally and physically threatened and Facebook groups of people videoing themselves destroying phone equipment because of a conspiracy theory going around that the Coronavirus is caused by 5G.
The point is that you don't know who has COVID and carriers can already spread the virus before they show any signs.
I was surprised too. They knew how the virus moves yet keep saying no point in wearing a mask. Ruddy clowns I agree.
To me it seems that the error FROM NOT wearing masks is vastly costlier than the error FROM wearing masks. So I wear a mask. Decision-making in real life (with imperfect information, uncertain conditions) is based on such asymmetries.
Not according to many people on this thread, apparently wearing one incorrectly does more harm than good according to some.
Do explain why the pale blue lines are all countries where most people wear masks.
This is the strongest statistical association I've seen w/ respect to the virus. Mask countries are so much better off.
I'm convinced the anti-masks message is because governments don't want others to incorrectly think wearing one will automatically stop people from catching. It seems like an attempt to engineer higher vigilance so that mask wearers don't completely let their guard down.
/conspiracy
It makes you despair.
The number of people in the comments who don't seem to think maintaining internet connectivity during a period where everyone is stuck at home requiring information is "essential work" is also astounding.
I've seen lots of people who wear masks mindlessly touching their face trying to adjust them, so I wouldn't be surprised to see a statistic that shows little effect of mass distribution of masks.
Yeah that was silly vid of the woman who told some workers they were laying cables which would kill everyoneThere's a Guardian article about some Telecoms Engineers in the UK being verbally and physically threatened and Facebook groups of people videoing themselves destroying phone equipment because of a conspiracy theory going around that the Coronavirus is caused by 5G.
The county my wife works in has the 3rd most ICU beds in the state and her hospital system has had to convert whole pediatric and medical surgical wings into extensions of the ICU.
https://khn.org/news/as-coronavirus...-americans-live-in-counties-with-no-icu-beds/
Bit of a concern perhaps for some Americans
How many people were inside?
Did you consider the people inside lived there? (I'm being serious.)
If only those idiots' fear of technology made them refrain from using the internet to pick up more and more stupid conspiracy theories. Maybe states should actually use troll farms to start such a movement.
https://khn.org/news/as-coronavirus...-americans-live-in-counties-with-no-icu-beds/
Bit of a concern perhaps for some Americans
Mostly those in Dumbfeckistan.
masks are good guys
Intuitively, I think masks work. They probably won't stop you from getting coronavirus if you get exposed to it, but intuitively they are effective at stopping you and other people from spreading it around. Or at least spreading it around to the same degree.
But the thing doesn't work if everyone doesn't do it & there isn't a culture of using them. SK/Hong Kong/China already have their use ingrained culturally, it's definitely not the case in Europe. You also need to make sure they're disposed of correctly & they're obviously environmental contaminants too.
But the thing doesn't work if everyone doesn't do it & there isn't a culture of using them. SK/Hong Kong/China already have their use ingrained culturally, it's definitely not the case in Europe. You also need to make sure they're disposed of correctly & they're obviously environmental contaminants too.
Tbh Ive been told by someone extremely high up in the NHS that the majority of masks do absolutely nothing, outside the n95s.
Placebo more than anything.
Placebo more than anything.
So, on the subject of masks, that order from Donald to 3M not to ship to Canada? Apparently the specific pulp used as part of the N95 only comes from Canada. There are also nurses that cross the border daily and work in hard hit Detroit.
Great move, Donny...
Great move, Donny...