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The state of this.
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The state of this.
Despicable self publicising immoral cnuts. I hope they get paper cuts from their squalid rag and that become infected causing mild discomfort for days.Tweet
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The state of this.
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I disagree. It'll make not one jot of difference.Tried to make that point the other day.
Uk measures are half baked and insufficient
That’s interesting. Although wouldn’t put it past Cummings to be behind those sources painting him as the only adult in the room.Tweet
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The author of the Sunday Times story that the government responded to said the same about Cummings back in March, that he had been the most zealous advocate for lockdown. Though only after they had changed course from their initial strategy, during which time his attitude was characterised as "herd immunity, protect the economy and if that means some pensioners die, too bad."Tweet
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Aye, every man and his dog doing pictures of that Tom fella.Is anyone else getting really fecking bored of these sickly sweet feel good stories filling up the news at the moment? Well done you’ve got one leg and walked around your living room 1000 times and got 600 like on Facebook now feck off.
Isn't that IFR based on countries who have been reasonably comprehensive in testing and reporting though? The UK numbers are wrong, but we know that - the number of cases is also a massive underestimate (I'd guess by an order of magnitude). But my understanding that the IFR of 0.5-1% was based on places like S Korea where they've been on top of testing and reporting from the start.Tweet
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If true, IFR could be much higher than the 0.5 to 1% often talked about.
Ah so because what we have been measuring is going down, we are now going to report it differently so it looks like we have gone backwards.Todays the first day they will include deaths outside hospital. Will they give us a breakdown of the figures, i.e deaths in hospital, deaths at home, deaths in care homes?
For what it's worth (can't say they'll do the same in the UK), in Belgium it's broken down as:Todays the first day they will include deaths outside hospital. Will they give us a breakdown of the figures, i.e deaths in hospital, deaths at home, deaths in care homes?
Think we still need to be looking at deaths in hospital and how many people are still being admitted to hospital. The lockdown was aimed at taking the pressure off the NHS. Think the government see the deaths in care homes as collateral damage unfortunately.Ah so because what we have been measuring is going down, we are now going to report it differently so it looks like we have gone backwards.
Hope they make it clear we haven't gone backwards, just now recording differently so expect the deaths to go up.
They've probably waited till it's at a low enough overall number to report it.
Ah so because what we have been measuring is going down, we are now going to report it differently so it looks like we have gone backwards.
Hope they make it clear we haven't gone backwards, just now recording differently so expect the deaths to go up.
They've probably waited till it's at a low enough overall number to report it.
That's how it should be reported here. Will every care home death just be claimed as a Covid-19 or have some of the poor souls just died of other things or old age?For what it's worth (can't say they'll do the same in the UK), in Belgium it's broken down as:
Total deaths:
Deaths in hospitals:
Deaths in care homes:
% of deaths in care homes which is confirmed as Covid-19:
They're even speaking of it as "two separate epidemics going on simultaneously", one in society and one in the care homes. The % of confirmed cases in care homes is usually quite low as well.
Think we still need to be looking at deaths in hospital and how many people are still being admitted to hospital. The lockdown was aimed at taking the pressure off the NHS. Think the government see the deaths in care homes as collateral damage unfortunately.
Swedish Ambassador Says Stockholm Expected To Reach 'Herd Immunity' In May
https://www.npr.org/2020/04/26/8452...n-may-swedish-ambassador-says?t=1588149396231
When it comes to media silence is always good. If there was a hint of their approach backfiring the media (not to mention the scores of people dreaming of a Draconian lockdown needing whatever material they can find to support their wish) would be all over it.Wow, good for Sweden if that's true. I haven't been paying as much attention to Sweden as I thought I would be, it's been quieter than I expected. Given their approach, you'd think media outlets would be all over this situation as they are basically being guinea pigs for a different approach.
I would never ever take sweeden for a barometer of anything.When it comes to media silence is always good. If there was a hint of their approach backfiring the media (not to mention the scores of people dreaming of a Draconian lockdown needing whatever material they can find to support their wish) would be all over it.
Sweden have found the perfect balance in my opinion and that will become increasingly evident the longer this goes on (and beyond).
All claimed as Covid-19 but will be adjusted once they're confirmed as infected/not infected, so the numbers will still be adjusted quite a bit I'd imagine.That's how it should be reported here. Will every care home death just be claimed as a Covid-19 or have some of the poor souls just died of other things or old age?
I hope so.All claimed as Covid-19 but will be adjusted once they're confirmed as infected/not infected, so the numbers will still be adjusted quite a bit I'd imagine.
The jury is still out on whether they've taken the right approach. As the article says, they have 2194 deaths to Denmark's 422.Wow, good for Sweden if that's true. I haven't been paying as much attention to Sweden as I thought I would be, it's been quieter than I expected. Given their approach, you'd think media outlets would be all over this situation as they are basically being guinea pigs for a different approach.
When it comes to media silence is always good. If there was a hint of their approach backfiring the media (not to mention the scores of people dreaming of a Draconian lockdown needing whatever material they can find to support their wish) would be all over it.
Sweden have found the perfect balance in my opinion and that will become increasingly evident the longer this goes on (and beyond).
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Good article on Sweden in the NY Times yesterday: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/28/world/europe/sweden-coronavirus-herd-immunity.htmlYou're definitely right. If it was going tits up there, the media would be all over it as an example of why 'we're doing it the right way'. So the fact we're not hearing much about it shows it's going better than expected.
Good article on Sweden in the NY Times yesterday: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/28/world/europe/sweden-coronavirus-herd-immunity.html
"A compilation of mortality figures by The New York Times found that many countries were undercounting Covid-19 deaths by the thousands, while Sweden reported just 400 more deaths than expected between March 9 and April 19. "
Little bastardAre we allowed to criticise the baby?
Boris's fiancée has had her baby, a boy. I thought it was due in the summer, but there you go. Lots of distractions for Boris right now.
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... says Boris's baby, rolling his eyes.What a time to be alive!
If you understand french a little bit, in France we have this tool and also the weekly reports from Santé public France.Probably be like France where they have care home deaths separate.
I see what you did there.Little bastard
It’s estimated everywhere (and IFR can only ever be an estimate) by working out what total number of infections might be, then dividing total deaths by that number. The more extensive the community testing (e.g. South Korea, Iceland) the more accurate the estimated number of infections. I don’t know if Korea is any better than anywhere else at getting the number of deaths correct but this article seems to imply they’re being under-reported across the board.Isn't that IFR based on countries who have been reasonably comprehensive in testing and reporting though? The UK numbers are wrong, but we know that - the number of cases is also a massive underestimate (I'd guess by an order of magnitude). But my understanding that the IFR of 0.5-1% was based on places like S Korea where they've been on top of testing and reporting from the start.
70%... don’t be bloody daft man.As per https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/ they also have a 70% death rate in their closed cases (as in only 30% of people who've been tested have recovered, 70% have died) vs the global average of 18%. This can be explained away in part by each country recording figures differently, some testing more than others, etc. but regardless, that doesn't look great whichever way you look at it.