Protests following the killing of George Floyd

[sammsky1]

The whole situation on both sides needs to de-escalate. I'm sure you agree with that? The protests are legitimate and should remain as peaceful as possible. There's plenty of officers who will likely agree with the cause, as seen in some of the other videos circulating. There's also plenty of officers who aren't racist and do the job they do to serve and help their communities.

Painting everyone in the same light just continues the cycle and gets us nowhere.

There are 1000s of complaints substantiated with VDO evidence that protests have been peaceful UNTIL civilians were deliberately provoked into a violent defence from the police.

There are 1000s of VDO recorded incidents of small random moments of violence by police on peaceful people simply protesting (their constitutional right).

Events in USA have now also placed Police in UK under notice. Situation is nowhere close to as bad, and yet we still have a situation of police discrimination against BAME civilians.

 

[2mufc0]

What has shocked me is how violent the police have been even when they know they are being filmed.

Really? Time and time they've shown they don't give a feck as they know there will be no repercussions.

 

[Based Adnan]

I wonder how many people have had their eyes opened with regards to police brutality due to the reaction to the protests

Certainly haven't done themselves any favours. Can imagine a hell of a lot more people being anti police.

 

[Man of Leisure]

The woman shot with the rubber bullet. (Don't look if you're squeamish)...

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Fecking hell

 

[UnrelatedPsuedo]

It's certainly a sorry state of affairs but they got tons of warning and then paintballed. They were not protesting, just rubbernecking.

I really wouldn’t want any country to have the kind of police force that you’re happy with.

They’re on their stoopThe person that shot the gun should be fired.

It really is that simple.

How do you expect America to have sensible policing if you don’t correct even the lowest level of error?

 

[The Firestarter]

ever occurred to you he meant IRL?

”uttered” suggests verbal

Probably English is not his native language.

 

[TheReligion]

I wonder how many people have had their eyes opened with regards to police brutality due to the reaction to the protests

Certainly haven't done themselves any favours. Can imagine a hell of a lot more people being anti police.

Most definitely. It should have been a chance for the police to shine and they have failed on the whole. That said there are some departments that have been praised and have helped facilitate the protests peacefully however they aren't getting much air time which is a shame.

 

[MrMarcello]

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Yeah... that's not going to lead to fewer cop cars being torched.

I believe I read that she's been permanently blinded in that eye... or that might have been another unfortunate woman. I saw several with head wounds last night due to rubber bullets.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...e-shot-rubber-bullet-Minneapolis-protest.html

Another person. Not sure about the one you posted, her outcome that is. Is she the one that was walking home from work that someone posted about a few pages back?

Update: post #1100 by @Silva - same person in the image?

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[UnrelatedPsuedo]

Are most American police ex-military?

20% : Large numbers of Police are also those who didn’t make it/cut it in the ‘Defence’ forces. I’ve seen 40% quoted but 20% is backed by data.

 

[villain]

For anyone who doesn't know the history of COINTELPRO, the Black Panthers and how the FBI literally spied on, falsely arrested and killed dozens of black community leaders for decades in the US - from the perspective of a white woman who just found it all out, here you go:

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I'd thoroughly advise reading it through for just some historical context.

You have a branch of law enforcement in America who are willing to intentionally cause injustice against a group of people based on skin colour, and the fear of that group reaching economic equality - how can the society in which that government resides achieve true justice?
It can't.
How can the people who are part of that group trust any branch of law enforcement if this is the history they have to reconcile with?
They can't

America was built from white supremacy over 400 years ago, nothing has changed and nothing will change through peace & time.

 

[JPRouve]

I’m using yellow vest to cover that whole time. The police were totally out of control. You saw the video of the woman here in Lyon who was filming a protest from her 3rd floor balcony, and the police shot a rubber bullet at her? Or the sickening number of peaceful protesters who lost eyes to face level shots? Or the guy they took under an underpass and beat the shit out of?

They have been out of control for over a year now, and nothing justifies it.

They weren't out of control, be serious and especially in this type of threads. As I said police violence happens but not as often as the US and we were talking about gun violence which is fairly rare in France. Most of the protesters injured weren't peaceful either, you can't make that claim when you are at the front line of scuffle with the police in fact most the yellow vests protests weren't peaceful at all, it's a weird thing to say. It doesn't justify the stupidity of a part of the police but it has nothing to do with guns and it's not even a good example to the point made.

And to reiterate the point that I made, in France the police has guns but people aren't shot on a regular basis and I assume that the same would be true in the UK.

 

[Tel074]

I'm from Northern Ireland this was a daily occurrence in the 80's here so not many of these videos shock me . When people are continuously oppressed then a time will come when they bite back

 

[Hammerfell]

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Not sure if posted but...

Batman needs to start hitting the weights again.

 

[BobbyManc]

They have a president who gave an actual war criminal a pardon and feted him at the White House. Why would they need to worry?

‘If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged’ - Noam Chomsky.

As true now as it was when he said it in the 90s.

 

[clarkydaz]

The woman shot with the rubber bullet. (Don't look if you're squeamish)...

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one of the twitter links over the last page or so has a street clip of an young black boy shot in the eye. Its disgraceful, and they answer to nobody

 

[diarm]

I'd love to hear Obama do something of this nature while also sharing his opinion of how the current CPOTUS (c-crybaby) is more concerned about himself, his shitshow of leadership, etc. Thin-skinned Trump would not take it well. And his inevitable response at Obama would simply illustrate the former's point.

On another site today, I saw him referred to as IMPOTUS, with the "IM" standing for "impeached". I thought it was very fitting and I giggled at the idea of how much he would hate it if it caught on.

 

[RedDevil@84]

What a pillock.

There was a Black Panther and some Wakanda forever in one of the videos/pics I saw.

 

[villain]

Also today marks the 99th anniversary of the Tulsa race riots

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Again, if you've never heard of it, I suggest doing some research.
A black community which found economic prosperity even in segregation - was burned to the ground by racist white people.

 

[choiboyx012]

Maybe I'm soft but I train BJJ and some other techniques and even on the mat knee on belly always hurts. Putting your whole bodyweight though something as sharp as your knee is going to cause problems especially if you place it somewhere the restricts breathing.

Do you do much work on positional asphyxiation?

No we did not, and we do not in our department refresher trainings
It will probably be introduced now

 

[clarkydaz]

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[Kentonio]

They weren't out of control, be serious and especially in this type of threads. As I said police violence happens but not as often as the US and we were talking about gun violence which is fairly rare in France. Most of the protesters injured weren't peaceful either, you can't make that claim when you are at the front line of scuffle with the police in fact most the yellow vests protests weren't peaceful at all, it's a weird thing to say. It doesn't justify the stupidity of a part of the police but it has nothing to do with guns and it's not even a good example to the point made.

And to reiterate the point that I made, in France the police has guns but people aren't shot on a regular basis and I assume that the same would be true in the UK.

I’m being extremely serious. My girlfriend grew up protesting from the time she was in school like most of you, she’s very politically minded, and she now won’t go anywhere near protests due to the police brutality. When there’s a serious possibility that you could wind up losing an eye or getting heavily tear gassed or beaten, the willingness to protest is much harder to find.

I’m genuinely sorry you haven’t felt the seriousness of the police behaviour over the last year, it’s not as bad as the US but by both French and European standards it’s been despicable. Please don’t play that ‘it wasn’t the peaceful people getting hurt’ card, that’s the same crap right wing Americans play all the time, and it’s equally untrue. I can provide plenty of videos of the French police shooting rubber bullets at or beating totally innocent people if you really need to be convinced.

 

[Kentonio]

Also today marks the 99th anniversary of the Tulsa race riots

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Again, if you've never heard of it, I suggest doing some research.
A black community which found economic prosperity even in segregation - was burned to the ground by racist white people.

Always worth mentioning that the authorities actually used planes to bomb black areas during those events too. It really puts it in context.

 

[Eyepopper]

What has shocked me is how violent the police have been even when they know they are being filmed.

One would think that they've been reassured their actions are ok even if filmed.

Minnesota Needs to ‘Get Tougher’ on Protesters, Trump Says

Literally, yesterday.

 

[Tucholsky]

It was a different officer. They saw their colleague knock him over then ran across to help the old guy back up and check he was okay.

No, I looked at the video again, the officer who pushed him to ground, was also the second person who helped him up. I think he realised that he made a mistake.
Doesn't make the original transgression better.
It just another evidence american police has to be better trained, more disciplinary oversight and commanders who make clear that such behaviour is not acceptable and can/will be punished.
And politicians need to stop to use the police as a tool for their own goals

(in Germany the police forces of the "readiness units" that are used for crowd control on big demonstrations, like the anti-nuclear protests in the 80s, were often garrisoned four weeks prior the event without leave even on weekends and told it is because of the protesters. So young police officers were "imprisoned" for weeks without anything to do for and then "let go free" on the protesters
Guess what happened!?
Sorry for the excursion)

 

[Olly Gunnar Solskjær]

Guys violence is wrong ok

Now that is racism, and hearing something like this from a professional footballer, fecking brat.

I would like Nemanja to break his fecking skull open next time they confront on the pitch.

Hmm maybe the opinion of that changes on who the victim of the racism is.

 

[TheReligion]

No we did not, and we do not in our department refresher trainings
It will probably be introduced now

I'm really shocked with that. We do alot of work around the dangers of positional asphyxiation along with how to deal with people suffering acute behavioural disorders caused by drugs and other factors.

Would be really interesting to come and see how things operate in the US and I would imagine for you to see the same in the UK.

 

[P-Nut]

It was a different officer. They saw their colleague knock him over then ran across to help the old guy back up and check he was okay.

The guy that pushes him over, eventually helps him back to his feet, once his other colleague is already helping him.

 

[villain]

Always worth mentioning that the authorities actually used planes to bomb black areas during those events too. It really puts it in context.

Yep, law enforcement in America from its origins have intentionally targeted and killed black people.
You can't then suddenly question why they don't trust police officers, the government & those who are set up to protect them.

 

[horsechoker]

Guys violence is wrong ok




Hmm maybe the opinion of that changes on who the victim of the racism is.

To be fair, he is an evil gecko.

 

[sammsky1]

Taking a weapon like that into/near a riot is just insane. Staggering levels of stupidty.

I’m not sure everyone knows the rioting 101 protocols.

Humans commit deeply irrational acts when under fight or flight levels of stress.

I agree the man who wielded a sword was very stupid but I’m not sure he was in full control of his mind and close to insanity and madness.

 

[UnrelatedPsuedo]

Here ya go fellas...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boogaloo_movement

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...erican-civil-war-in-hawaiian-shirts-wsmdmmclm

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...he-george-floyd-protests-into-a-new-civil-war

Weird one. Feels like you’re accidentally amplifying far right messaging now. This term doesn’t need a leg up into the public lexicon.

I know it means something to you, a Liberal American that sees it used in The lanes you’re running in. But if you hadn’t shone a light on it, it would remain in the darkness for a lot longer.

At a time that Police are killing people, I don’t think it’s helpful to make a point of telling people what a small group of people are co-opting a word to mean.

I could be off base. Feels that it’s a movement that stays small without promotion though.

 

[MrMarcello]

On another site today, I saw him refer to IMPOTUS, with the "IM" standing for "impeached". I thought it was very fitting and I giggled at the idea of how much he would hate it if it caught on.

That's brilliant. I said COTUS in the office the other day and one of the Navy personnel asked what I meant. "Crybaby." He chuckled.

 

[BobbyManc]

Also today marks the 99th anniversary of the Tulsa race riots

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Again, if you've never heard of it, I suggest doing some research.
A black community which found economic prosperity even in segregation - was burned to the ground by racist white people.

A potent reminder of the depths of depravity and violence the oppressors will go to in order to uphold their white supremacist system and its ideology. Anybody thinking there is a peaceful route to ending this system in the US is sadly deluding themselves. It’s a system underpinned by violence. It will not allow itself to be challenged or dismantled without recourse to even more extreme modes of violence, as we are witnessing right now.

 

[Heardy]

How can a BLM rally in the UK be totally unrelated to the killing of George Floyd in the US? This is why the unrest in the US is a good thing. Because people assume that just because things are calm in the UK that we don't have a similar problem.

Is that what you're suggesting? Are you saying that because things haven't kicked off in the UK, black people must be on to a good gig here?

I don’t agree - it gives people an excuse to get caught up in riots.

If people riot in London this weekend it’s entirely on the back of whats happened in the US.

People can protest if they feel they’re “not onto a good gig” but that doesn’t give someone the right to set fire to buildings or for people to attack emergency services in the middle of a pandemic!!

the George Floyd video made me feel sick to my stomach, but riots are not the answer!

 

[JPRouve]

I’m being extremely serious. My girlfriend grew up protesting from the time she was in school like most of you, she’s very politically minded, and she now won’t go anywhere near protests due to the police brutality. When there’s a serious possibility that you could wind up losing an eye or getting heavily tear gassed or beaten, the willingness to protest is much harder to find.

I’m genuinely sorry you haven’t felt the seriousness of the police behaviour over the last year, it’s not as bad as the US but by both French and European standards it’s been despicable. Please don’t play that ‘it wasn’t the peaceful people getting hurt’ card, that’s the same crap right wing Americans play all the time, and it’s equally untrue. I can provide plenty of videos of the French police shooting rubber bullets at or beating totally innocent people if you really need to be convinced.

Of course she won't but that's because the entire context is more violent on both sides and on the subject of the yellow vests it's the latter who started it and the police finished it. I can also provide videos of the "peaceful" protesters, the only thing I'm asking you is to show some balance, you know damn well that you tried to paint a one sided story because I agreed with you on the excessive violence(the firefighters protests being an example) but tell the entire story, don't go around painting the other side as some sort of peaceful protesters because they are not.

And again your girlfriend shouldn't go to these type of "protests" if she is peaceful because the organizers aren't peaceful, they even fight each others.

 

[villain]

I don’t agree - it gives people an excuse to get caught up in riots.

If people riot in London this weekend it’s entirely on the back of whats happened in the US.

People can protest if they feel they’re “not onto a good gig” but that doesn’t give someone the right to set fire to buildings or for people to attack emergency services in the middle of a pandemic!!

the George Floyd video made me feel sick to my stomach, but riots are not the answer!

What is the answer then?
How exactly do you reconcile over 400 years of violence against black people?

 

[UnrelatedPsuedo]

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Fire him. Today. That’s what they need to do.

Also, ridiculous and pointless pedantry.... Annoys me that they can’t hold their shields the right way up.

 

[utdalltheway]

Did you guys touch on the anonymous hackers threat to air all the MPDs dirty laundry after they hacked their computer system? I kinda hope they do so maybe some light can be shed on the internal workings.

 

[Olly Gunnar Solskjær]

 

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