No way on salary alone but perhaps with tons of OT. Would be my guess.
Protests following the killing of George Floyd
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Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) discuss United's fantastic win away against Athletic Club in the semi-final of the Europa League.
They also pick out the positives of United's 4-3 loss away at Brentford, and Nik reviews a day out at Old Trafford watching Manchester United Women qualify for the Champions League.
No way on salary alone but perhaps with tons of OT. Would be my guess.
Remember this? pure scum. https://www.al.com/news/2019/12/mob...e-homeless-people-in-viral-facebook-post.html
Lower than dirt.
I can see Breitbart framing the homeless man shooting "Cowardly Violent Thug Protestors Use Wheelchair-bound Homeless Man as Shield"
It probably varies wildly by state/distract.
It's surely no accident that they're choosing to shoot people's faces - a message is being sent out but, due to its violent nature, it will be ignored by demonstrators.
By rights this should mean that the Army are going to put the Police Forces down to stop the violence?
The Twitter mob usually ID these people very quickly. Strange that its taking so long.
As porn stars?
I saw a post on here earlier where somebody had ID'd him and passed on info to the police. I'm hoping we see more on the story.
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/nypd/careers/police-officers/po-benefits.page
Starting salary: $42,500
Salary after 5 ½ years: $85,292.
Including holiday pay, longevity pay, uniform allowance, night differential and overtime, police officers may potentially earn over $100,000 per year.
My guess would be lieutenants, captains, and chiefs make over 100K but also have far more service time. But making 100K in NYC is like making 50K in rural America.
Starting salary: $42,500
Salary after 5 ½ years: $85,292.
Including holiday pay, longevity pay, uniform allowance, night differential and overtime, police officers may potentially earn over $100,000 per year.
My guess would be lieutenants, captains, and chiefs make over 100K but also have far more service time. But making 100K in NYC is like making 50K in rural America.
I didn't call you a cnut, I said it was impressive that you hadn't been called one.
It's time to move away from 'being polite' to people with views like yours. If you look through the thread similar approaches have been taken with those expressing these views. Some have even been banned.
Missed the point here. The point is that there is a glass ceiling preventing non white British staff from getting these roles. That is clear and obvious by the figures. Regardless, still a daft point because there are plenty of Black and Asian British citizens in the NHS. The problem you have is that you are denying this glass ceiling exists because of course "there isn't much systematic racism" even though there are hundreds of articles, statistics and people within the NHS literally saying there's a problem.
Erm, no, that's not entirely what you said. What you initially did was say this
Which I think was your way of trying to appear impartial but by your next post, your real views were quickly established.
Please explain to me how 'financial situation' is relevant to refusing black and Asian people rental properties, denying them job roles and not promoting them to higher roles within the NHS.
100k is very low for NYC. I've heard of cops in So Cal making much more than that with OT.
A lot of NYPD officers get poached by departments in Westchester County or Long Island willing to pay more in both base pay and overtime.
Yeah it's not competitive pay. It is a good way to get police experience then jump ship elsewhere.
feck me, I’ve missed my calling in life.
Actually, no I haven’t
Actually, no I haven’t
Will the job changes you though? I don't think anyone joining the police are looking to brutalize people from the get go
WHITE COMPLICITY MATTERS
The Nazis by the Lake
Musa Okwonga’s message to white people following the murder of George Floyd ~
'But I do wonder: how much more do people need to see? Why was it necessary for me to go on television and give further context to a man being casually choked to death by a policeman’s knee? Why was it necessary for me to go on there and become so nervous I had not done the interview justice that I could not bring myself to watch it for almost two days? Why, for those two days, did I have to carry the burden of shame that I may have let down the black community, only feeling redeemed by the fact that an activist I greatly admire then shared my interview on social media? Why did I have the pressure of explaining oppression? Why, in order to make more white people care, do we black people have to make our deaths sound poetic?'
More:
https://bylinetimes.com/2020/06/05/white-complicity-matters-the-nazis-by-the-lake/
The Nazis by the Lake
Musa Okwonga’s message to white people following the murder of George Floyd ~
'But I do wonder: how much more do people need to see? Why was it necessary for me to go on television and give further context to a man being casually choked to death by a policeman’s knee? Why was it necessary for me to go on there and become so nervous I had not done the interview justice that I could not bring myself to watch it for almost two days? Why, for those two days, did I have to carry the burden of shame that I may have let down the black community, only feeling redeemed by the fact that an activist I greatly admire then shared my interview on social media? Why did I have the pressure of explaining oppression? Why, in order to make more white people care, do we black people have to make our deaths sound poetic?'
More:
https://bylinetimes.com/2020/06/05/white-complicity-matters-the-nazis-by-the-lake/
Did it used to be or is it still the case that a fair number of recruits come from the military and I'm sure they are screened very effectively but perhaps the odd one who enjoys confrontation gets through. Then there are the inadequate ones who might normally be desk bound (I'm sure I noticed a fairly obese cop popping away with a bean bag gun on a vid) who is a bit unreliable.
Otherwise it is being encouraged by their President to get their yearly target practice completed on moving targets.
I think in America in particular that is exactly what is happening. Imagine knowing you can get a job with no qualifications, have little to no discipline, get relatively well paid, progress and get paid more, carry guns, drive cars fast, smash peoples doors in, get into fights and then on top of that never be held accountable when you feck up. Imagine the sorts that will appeal to. It's a sad but real consequence that a lot of men will join the police purely for the power. The only way you stop this is via a stricter recruitment policy.
Something that's happening in the UK. Dunno how many are aware but in the UK it is now compulsory to have a degree to be a police officer. You can join without one but you have to undergo studying for the first three years and attain a degree in policing. Now that's not going to solve all the problems at that recruitment stage but it will definitely weed out a significant amount of what I can only to describe as'wrong uns'. I can't see certain brutes and cowboys being happy to study and write essays in their time off work to become a police officer. Doubt America will ever adapt such a policy though.
Cops actually make a lot of money on the side. Consulting with private security firms, helping other PD’s as outside consultant or just helping firms recruit. Lot of them actually look to their NYPD gig as a safety net so that they can eventually transition to a better private gig.
Lower than dirt.
What. The. feck.
This is great. Nob head getting wound up while they all chant peaceful 
Mechanically enhanced vagrant poses threat to brave law enforcement officers.
Are there any broader calls for reform of the American policing infrastructure in the media, or are they just acting 'outraged' at isolated incidents?
Sad as it is, the fact it's an old white man that got slumped and left for dead will have more affect on the masses, but has that been the only incident that's crossed over, or are there more? I should guess the image above of the guy in the wheelchair will become iconic.
Is this stuff being broadcast and relayed into homes of the unwitting, or is it just those perusing social media that are getting a broader education on how rotten the system is?
Sad as it is, the fact it's an old white man that got slumped and left for dead will have more affect on the masses, but has that been the only incident that's crossed over, or are there more? I should guess the image above of the guy in the wheelchair will become iconic.
Is this stuff being broadcast and relayed into homes of the unwitting, or is it just those perusing social media that are getting a broader education on how rotten the system is?
This is great. Nob head getting wound up while they all chant peaceful
what a colossal assholeThe officer being told off by the female officer looks like Bubbles from the trailer park boys.
Lower than dirt.
Reminds me of the incident recently where a black man in London was arrested during some ridiculous stop and search procedure and the fact he was a paramedic had to be emphasised because without that fact a lot of people would have just shrugged. We are still at the stage where black lives need to be humanised and validated.
Video showing Police without name or badge identification, citing interim orders from above
Trump's tactic has literally been to beat protesters in to submission whilst using symbolism and rhetoric to embolden his 'base' supporters to get armed and to the streets in support.
Trump's tactic has literally been to beat protesters in to submission whilst using symbolism and rhetoric to embolden his 'base' supporters to get armed and to the streets in support.
This is why the protests need to continue. If they stop now, it will be seen as a victory for Trump and his bullying/"domination" tactics.
Exactly. This momentum cannot stop, even in protests in our nations across Europe as it's the only way to force our leaders to come out and call this shit for what it is - the acts of a brutal dictator. Allies not willing to step on each others toes isn't an excuse when we are supposed to be the moral shining light of freedom and democracy.
This is great. Nob head getting wound up while they all chant peaceful
What a cnut.
Mayor of DC gives a big symbolic middle finger to Donnie...
Police in Columbia, SC using the knee on the neck method with a protestor.
https://www.thestate.com/news/local/crime/article243263231.html
https://www.thestate.com/news/local/crime/article243263231.html
Don't you realise how fecked up this is? You shouldn't be able to endanger a kid by bringing them near a police officer. The safest place for a kid in any neighbourhood should be standing next to a pol;ice officer.
No, not yet. The public and police investigators are still looking for the asshat.
Knees on the neck should be reserved solely for influencers.
Actually not reserved. Encouraged.
Joining the police in the U.S., especially if you are part of a larger metro city PD (e.g. NYC, SF, LA, D.C., Chicago, etc.) does change you. It's near impossible not to change you because you see what humans are capable of doing and it goes pretty much against what you believe and know growing up or usually have witnessed first-hand. Assuming you're 22 or 23 when you join, that's still a really, really young age. Physical, emotional, intellectual, and real world inexperience. Then you're put into an institution such as public law enforcement, it's a complete mind feck. Your reality is much different than others and you see things differently.
Recruits still come from backgrounds of basic training, which includes Sheriff's Departments and all military. It's a natural path way because of the use of language/terms, basic training, hierarchy structure, etc. However, just like the military has evolved within the past decade, at least, having degrees and post-high school education helps significantly. And knowing a second or third language. There are young recruits, mostly men, who do get the rush of blood and arrogant feeling, but that doesn't mean they are left for their own. Many people also join the police in their mid to late 20s as a last ditch effort to get a career going that provides stability, men and women.
One thing that plagues police departments, which is then transferred or expressed, towards the public is the lack of internal support for PTSD, consistent emotional/psychological support, and more immersive training the more time they stay in the force. Physically, they usually decline, but mentally and socially, they stay the same. They don't learn what's going on in the community or how to adapt, relate. And how those learnings of civilian life should translate into how they police more effectively and efficiently. They live in their own bubble and when they don't step out from behind the badge and out of their bubble, they aren't vulnerable. They stop learning and knowing what their civic duty really means. Without this, it's about protecting the badge and the "Blue Lives Matters" becomes very tribalistic, which can be a problem.