Protests following the killing of George Floyd

[JPRouve]

um, from what I can see hundreds of people have gone into her front garden.

what reaction do you expect?

Not drawing a gun at people that are at good distance from you? Not unnecessarily go outside and provoke/threaten people with a fire arm? If you feel threaten, stay inside and call the police?

 

[calodo2003]

um, from what I can see hundreds of people have gone into her front garden.

what reaction do you expect?

Protestors were heading by that house en route to another, they were on the sidewalk / street when the toting couple ran out toting their firearms. The protestors weren’t in their front yard.

 

[ivaldo]

Not drawing a gun at people that are at good distance from you? Not unnecessarily go outside and provoke/threaten people with a fire arm? If you feel threaten, stay inside and call the police?

'murica.

 

[Pink Moon]

um, from what I can see hundreds of people have gone into her front garden.

what reaction do you expect?

It actually looks like they're on the pavement outside the house. Nonetheless, from reading the story it would appear that the woman and her partner were the ones to instigate this. The protesters were marching to the mayors house and were met with these two tooled up tools on their front lawn. Could be false reporting but I find that more likely than a group of protesters randomly stopping outside a random civilians house and antagonising them when they'd have no reason to nor would've even known who lived in there.

It may not be out of the question that the group had been causing trouble in the neighbourhood on their way along the street which caused the couple to come out of their home with guns but given white, conservative Americans hysterical reaction to people protesting about something they can't comprehend because they've never experienced it, I think the first scenario is the most likely.

 

[Drainy]

It actually looks like they're on the pavement outside the house. Nonetheless, from reading the story it would appear that the woman and her partner were the ones to instigate this. The protesters were marching to the mayors house and were met with these two tooled up tools on their front lawn. Could be false reporting but I find that more likely than a group of protesters randomly stopping outside a random civilians house and antagonising them when they'd have no reason to nor would've even known who lived in there.

It may not be out of the question that the group had been causing trouble in the neighbourhood on their way along the street which caused the couple to come out of their home with guns but given white, conservative Americans hysterical reaction to people protesting about something they can't comprehend because they've never experienced it, I think the first scenario is the most likely.

The protesters passed into a gated community and were walking towards their house when they came out. The point is they have every right to be frightened, and in the US defend their property. Mocking them for feeling threatened in the current context of widespread property damage isn't the right reaction.

 

[afrocentricity]

fecking apologist. You really are a piece of work aren't you?

No I don't think it's acceptable. But if we were talking about reasonable actions, we wouldn't need to have this discussion in the first place, would we? But who cares about nuance. Anyone who doesn't agree with you wholeheartedly is a racist police-loving xenophobe. I know this is difficult to see from your trench, but it is both possible to support the BLM movement, to feel the overall criticism of policing is fully justified, and yet not support every single action related to it.

You've got to be a special kind of person to spend your time on the internet rightly (for the most part) criticising the abhorrent treatment of minorities by the police, including instances of overzealous policing of peaceful protests, then in the same space champion a few dickheads that think it's smart to goad those same people. Yeah. Stoke the flames, that's the way to put the fire out!

Wtf is all that about? Anyway....
I feel like it would have been great if a cop took a bite and made a joke about it.... Hearts and minds and all that. But you carry on making out that I'm the bad guy...

Two of the people behind blm are trained marxists.

Will you people stop making out that BLM (a global hashtag to raise awareness for a legitamate issue) is some global organisation run by a handful of people? Or I'm just going to start assuming you're willingly pushing that agenda. I had you down as a critical thinker, do you honestly belive a few people are behind (and orchestrating) all of this?

The protesters passed into a gated community and were walking towards their house when they came out. The point is they have every right to be frightened, and in the US defend their property. Mocking them for feeling threatened in the current context of widespread property damage isn't the right reaction.

Why do they have every right to be frightened? What am I missing?

 

[calodo2003]

The protesters passed into a gated community and were walking towards their house when they came out. The point is they have every right to be frightened, and in the US defend their property. Mocking them for feeling threatened in the current context of widespread property damage isn't the right reaction.

Community property is not specifically their property, the fact that the protestors are inside a gated community doesn’t give the inhabitants of said community to patrol around with guns drawn, stand your ground state or not. They have every right to be mocked simply by the way they were handling their firearms.

 

[ivaldo]

Wtf is all that about? Anyway....
I feel like it would have been great if a cop took a bite and made a joke about it.... Hearts and minds and all that. But you carry on making out that I'm the bad guy...

Starts off by calling me an apologist, then comes out with that. You really are a strange one. It was only last week you were raging because I had the audacity to respond to one of your posts.

 

[utdalltheway]

Those St Louis white folks would have been better off sitting on their veranda - with their weapon on their laps if they felt that necessary - than approaching the protesters and leaving the safety of their house. Easy for me to say, not being there at that time of course.

As for goading the cops with donuts If the cops can't see that then maybe take classes in humour, along with all the other classes they need.

 

[Drainy]

Why do they have every right to be frightened? What am I missing?

Hundreds of rowdy people were passing through the gate next to their property in a gated community onto a private street and were heading towards their property when they came out. As you will have seen there has been a lot of property damage over the last few weeks.

If I were in that situation, I can imagine that I would have no reason to believe my property was not going to be targeted and would be frightened. Its America and people own guns to defend themselves and their property.

 

[afrocentricity]

Starts off by calling me an apologist, then comes out with that. You really are a strange one. It was only last week you were raging because I had the audacity to respond to one of your posts.

Are you not an apologist? In my observations you tend to make excuses for the police, or get unto those that criticise them. (don't goad those guys with dougnuts stupid....... mmm dougnuts)

 

[Drainy]

As for goading the cops with donuts If the cops can't see that then maybe take classes in humour, along with all the other classes they need.

I mean that is just funny

 

[afrocentricity]

Hundreds of rowdy people were passing through the gate next to their property in a gated community onto a private street and were heading towards their property when they came out. As you will have seen there has been a lot of property damage over the last few weeks.

If I were in that situation, I can imagine that I would have no reason to believe my property was not going to be targeted and would be frightened. Its America and people own guns to defend themselves and their property.

Are you sure you arent reaching a bit? For example, have there been examples of domestic property damage in the area? Did all of their neighbours join in with their deranged weapon brandishing? I feel like I'm missing something here...

 

[ivaldo]

Are you not an apologist? In my observations you tend to make excuses for the police, or get unto those that criticise them. (don't goad those guys with dougnuts stupid....... mmm dougnuts)

Is that an genuine question? I've made dozens of posts condemning policing. My previous post calls policing abhorrent. I say that I think you're, on the whole, right, and this is where you end up? You filter those out posts though, because it's difficult to assign an identity to someone who doesn't sit at the extreme end of a spectrum. Into the incinerator I go.

 

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Activists say Fox News vehicle hit Black man in Seattle protest zone

 

[afrocentricity]

Is that an genuine question? I've made dozens of posts condemning policing. My previous post calls policing abhorrent. I say that I think you're, on the whole, right, and this is where you end up? You filter those out posts though, because it's difficult to assign an identity to someone who doesn't sit at the extreme end of a spectrum. Into the incinerator I go.

Fair enough.... Unless you're tagging me in them I can't be expected to know about posts that I haven't seen. All I know is that you seem to be one of two people on this site that keeps riding me but feck it, I'll leave it there... It's not that deep.

 

[AFC NimbleThumb]

Disguting, I won't eat ice cream ever again.

Häagen-Dazs would never

 

[ivaldo]

Fair enough.... Unless you're tagging me in them I can't be expected to know about posts that I haven't seen. All I know is that you seem to be one of two people on this site that keeps riding me but feck it, I'll leave it there... It's not that deep.

You quoted me, then called me an apologist. And I'm riding you?

So up until you had a meltdown when I replied to you a few weeks ago, the last time we had any meaningful discussion was back in 2017, where I think you gave me another half dozen labels because I didn't agree wholeheartedly with what you said. I don't know why you always have to make it personal. It's not healthy.

 

[afrocentricity]

You responded to me, then called me an apologist. And I'm riding you?

So up until you had a meltdown when I responded to you a few weeks ago, the last time we had any meaningful discussion was back in 2017, where I think you gave me another half a dozen labels because I didn't agree wholeheartedly with what you said.

I swear I'm gonna have to go get my dougnut on a string and feck you up son.... I called you an apologist because thats what I think/thought you are.... it is what it is, get over it.

Also, me telling you to feck off a few weeks ago (as opposed to getting into another weird circular arguement with you like right now for example) isnt a meltdown... it's cutting to the chase. And on that note.... Goodbye.

 

[utdalltheway]

Confederate emblem on Mississippi flag mars Black lawmaker's live shot

On the long overdue flag change: It looks like it came down to the NCAA move that finally forced the MS lawmaker's hand?
They may not publicly admit that but the timing is more than coincidental.

 

[ivaldo]

I swear I'm gonna have to go get my dougnut on a string and feck you up son.... I called you an apologist because thats what I think/thought you are.... it is what it is, get over it.

Also, me telling you to feck off a few weeks ago (as opposed to getting into another weird circular arguement with you like right now for example) isnt a meltdown... it's cutting to the chase. And on that note.... Goodbye.

Are you sure? Or you going to cry because you're holding onto something I said once three years ago. Honestly, I'd forgotten it had even happened, but it clearly mentally scared to. I mean really, always 'riding you.'

I can't wait for your next meltdown. Byeeeee.

 

[NinjaFletch]

I would've thought we had enough evidence over the last 4 months to say that it is enough to goad police in America. Most of the time, you don't even need that.

Perhaps, but if that is all it takes then it's another example of a massive police over-reaction and would be another one to add to the litany of unnecessary violence escalated by the police. At the end of the day, it's a doughnut on a string.

I'd also have thought that humour might have a role in de-escalating the tension, but that perhaps expects too much humanity from US police forces.

 

[afrocentricity]

Apparently knowing which posters are actually worth your time, and avoiding the ones that arent, means you're having a meltdown? Anyway....

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[Organic Potatoes]

On the long overdue flag change: It looks like it came down to the NCAA move that finally forced the MS lawmaker's hand?
They may not publicly admit that but the timing is more than coincidental.

I don’t think the NCAA has that kind of sway anymore, they just conveniently jumped on the bandwagon with the SEC championship events thing once the ball was already rolling.

 

[freeurmind]

Apparently knowing which posters are actually worth your time, and avoiding the ones that arent, means you're having a meltdown? Anyway....

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Seriously considering giving up on humanity.

 

[ivaldo]

Apparently, 'avoiding' a poster who once disagreed with you three years ago equates to directly quoting them, calling them an apologist, then whining that they're 'riding you.' Someone has some issues they need addressing...

Perhaps, but if that is all it takes then it's another example of a massive police over-reaction and would be another one to add to the litany of unnecessary violence escalated by the police. At the end of the day, it's a doughnut on a string.

I'd also have thought that humour might have a role in de-escalating the tension, but that perhaps expects too much humanity from US police forces.

It is. Let's not forget these are the same people that hospitalised a 75 year man because he was trying to give them their hat back. What I'm struggling with is the notion that we rightly condemn them for some of the abhorrent, unwarranted behaviour we've seen in recent weeks, but conversely see no issue with actively trying to get them to do it again. There's no other reason for them to do that than to get a reaction. Honestly, I don't care all that much, it was just a passing comment, despite the desperation of a certain person to make it something more.

 

[Maagge]

I just learned the other day that the well-known Confederate flag wasn't actually widely used at the time, but was only used by Robert E. Lee. Meaning that the use of it now is kinda like a romanticised/mythical version of the confederacy and the events of the time.
Absurd country.

 

[ivaldo]

I just learned the other day that the well-known Confederate flag wasn't actually widely used at the time, but was only used by Robert E. Lee. Meaning that the use of it now is kinda like a romanticised/mythical version of the confederacy and the events of the time.
Absurd country.

Very interesting. Should make the expected kickback that much more ridiculous.

 

[Amarsdd]

I just learned the other day that the well-known Confederate flag wasn't actually widely used at the time, but was only used by Robert E. Lee. Meaning that the use of it now is kinda like a romanticised/mythical version of the confederacy and the events of the time.
Absurd country.

same thing with the confederate monuments. Majority of them were built in the Jim Crow era in the early 20th century.

 

[SteveJ]

Two of the people behind blm are trained marxists. They will admit to that. This is the problem for me. These groups are typically funded by the usual imbred scrum. And what happens is they get behind good messages and so some join because they believe in a message but it's a trojan horse. You can see what they do in colleges, teaching them social justice! You watch them. You know the terms they use. How they speak and think as a race as opposed a human being. They use coded language. They're very sneaky. But the BLM use genuine moments of evil.....to push through this agenda. And if you look at what goes on - and how people speak. There are some that don't acknowledge black on black crime because you know why? There will be casualties in war....This is the enemy. I've every sympathy for people going through hard times. But this movement is a sham and the message used is a slight of hand. The people controlling it, just don't care. All they want, is you too...because that pushes their agenda. This guy pulled a gun on a pregnant woman. But that's not the point. It's opportunism and that's the nature of the beast. And if people look at the keywords and the ideas being taught. You see the patterns and understand the game. But we deal with an enemy using human tragedy to creep in through the back door and I ask anyone.......do you really think this is going to solve anything? It's just a fantasy and it was not meant to change anything....

This group....during a pandemic...protested/rioted/looted as a direct consequence. Who that went to all of this, is under Quarentine? Where is any message anywhere...on the news...pleading.....demanding people STOP...because during these events people are breaking social distancing....and no one can say that they wouldn't cause a spike. This is why they want to control the narrative. Those people were potential carriers....but who ..anywhere.....asked them to stop. That's the point people miss. The whole idea of being dumbed down, is not thinking about what you are seeing. They potentially...allowed a virus to spread....putting so many lives at risk.......for what? Was there urgent messages on the news asking people....NOT to protest? Not To riot? Not to loot? There should have been.....because all that many people....all it took is one having covid right?.,...

Wtf's this? A telegram in morse code from an asylum?

 

[entropy]

It’s a cry for help

 

[Penna]

Please remember to keep it constructive folks, as the banner says. Remember, you can ignore a poster if they're annoying you. Thanks.

 

[Ish]

Wtf's this? A telegram in morse code from an asylum?

 

[Crackers]

Wtf's this? A telegram in morse code from an asylum?

morse code includes pauses. I do not believe this poster paused to think before posting this.

 

[ivaldo]

morse code includes pauses. I do not believe this poster paused to think before posting this.

 

[SirAF]

Wtf's this? A telegram in morse code from an asylum?

All those ellipses

 

[DavidDeSchmikes]

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[AFC NimbleThumb]

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How many degrees of assault are there, fourth degree ffs!

 

[MrMarcello]

The madness in those eyes.

 

[MrMarcello]

Wtf's this? A telegram in morse code from an asylum?

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