Exactly. It's pathetic, just kicking the can down the road in the hopes the public forget. I thought the police were supposed to be independent of the government, or is this country more right wing than I realised?
Exactly. It's pathetic, just kicking the can down the road in the hopes the public forget. I thought the police were supposed to be independent of the government, or is this country more right wing than I realised?
Don’t forget Sajid Javid’s brother is an assistant commissioner in the Met aswell.
Crimes were committed…I’m not comfortable with police involvement in this. It should be purely political, with political punishment.
Why? 18,000 people were fined for doing the exact same thing he and his office were doing. It's quite clear that laws were broken, embarrassing that they've broken the laws they've made but a basic principle of upholding the law, is key here.I’m not comfortable with police involvement in this. It should be purely political, with political punishment.
So give the commons/lords proper investigative power and a way to remove them.Crimes were committed…
Because the police are a branch of the state. Having them investigate the state is problematic in so many ways. Super easy to go from this to priti Patel ordering an ”investigation” into starmer or whatever pre election if she feels the tories are in bother. Plus the state can effectively use them to stall investigations if they like. The police should never be a tool in these political fist fights.Why? 18,000 people were fined for doing the exact same thing he and his office were doing. It's quite clear that laws were broken, embarrassing that they've broken the laws they've made but a basic principle of upholding the law, is key here.
Whether the Met will actually investigate is another question, but given that they would of had a good idea of what was going on at Number 10 means they're just as complicit. If the police don't act or involve themselves in this, then why would those handing out political punishments think any differently?
Arguably by the police.Crimes were committed…
Yeah - because the police haven't got enough to do right now.I’m not comfortable with police involvement in this. It should be purely political, with political punishment.
Everyday in every way... in my neighborhood, (North of Watford) most people would be happy if the Police could catch whoever it is stealing the garden furniture around here... has there been a shortage, why would people steal Garden furniture??Crimes were committed…
Currently you're right, by being part of state it is open to question whether the government can change the way they operate and stall investigations. The college of policing is theoretically going to become fully independent from the state at some time in the future. The official line is when "parliamentary time allows" but until that happens it's open to abuse.So give the commons/lords proper investigative power and a way to remove them.
Because the police are a branch of the state. Having them investigate the state is problematic in so many ways. Super easy to go from this to priti Patel ordering an ”investigation” into starmer or whatever pre election if she feels the tories are in bother. Plus the state can effectively use them to stall investigations if they like. The police should never be a tool in these political fist fights.
It also puts them into a privileged position when negotiating for more autonomy and authoritarian tactics. It reduces their accountability, and starts down a rabbit hole. Imagine the police want to prosecute, Boris changes the law or tells them to feck off, and the police start withdrawing support. Weakens democracy.
also I’ll note this is theatre from the met. They’ll just issue fines which the tax payer will pay. After paying for the investigation. I’d rather my tax money go to social care or the nhs.
What we actually need is a political mechanism to investigate him.
Do you always have to speak in riddles?Everyday in every way... in my neighborhood, (North of Watford) most people would be happy if the Police could catch whoever it is stealing the garden furniture around here... has there been a shortage, why would people steal Garden furniture??
Oh wait a minute... its all these illicit parties in No.10, have to get the furniture from somewhere, 'leveling up' and all that!
Try my best... prefer to call them 'parables'Do you always have to speak in riddles?
Sunak would have been present for most of them. The media right now is still under right wing control. ALL of the focus is on Johnson. A narrow field investigation about his adherence to the rules.I’ve said all along, Johnson is the gift that keeps on giving. It’s like killing the goose that lays the golden eggs.
This is party wide corruption from the Tories, they should be targeting the entire party including attacking Sunak who lives next fecking door to all these parties.
At the end of the day, if the PM/president has a huge majority in a democracy he pretty much has unfettered power to change laws to his liking anyway. Only his mates can remove or stop him from doing that. I’d personally give the lords that function though then we’d have crap about “unelected stooges stopping populist Boris” - perhaps have a US type system where the lords investigate and then send it to the commons. I don’t think out mps are that partisan yet,.Currently you're right, by being part of state it is open to question whether the government can change the way they operate and stall investigations. The college of policing is theoretically going to become fully independent from the state at some time in the future. The official line is when "parliamentary time allows" but until that happens it's open to abuse.
I don't agree that making the commons be the final line for investigations is the answer though, as that's even more open to abuse as we see from all the investigations being run by the PM's mates.
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One hand washes the other.Cressida Dicks is so fecking corrupt.
Honestly think there'll be riots if she and the met don't do their jobs.One hand washes the other.
They backed her when the public wanted her gone, now she is returning the favour.
It's a democracy, honest.This is bad news isn't it? We were about to get the Gray Report and now it'll never see the light of day...
The met police investigation will just rumble on for years and amount to nothing.
Only if The Sun or Daily Mail agree.Honestly think there'll be riots if she and the met don't do their jobs.
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