Great interview. His English isnt perfect but it's fine, can't believe posters were arguing against his arrival because of it a few months ago.
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
He mentioned The process. That cant be good.
Don't start. We need a process and some organisation.
20 years from now, I can see a bronze statue of Ten Hag outside of Old Trafford, inscribed with the words "good is not good enough".
But do we need to trust the process...?Don't start. We need a process and some organisation.
Ya he got set straight by the board...No big rebuild.
First promising manager after SAF. Let the good times begin from here on.
Soon: No value in the market, DVB like a new signing etcYa he got set straight by the board...No big rebuild.
Interesting that he mentioned a few times us finishing 2nd last season. Not sure what to take from that.
you think he was going to sell and buy 22 new players this season?Ya he got set straight by the board...No big rebuild.
Good interview, fairly standard stuff, although I think the press conference will be much more revealing.
He has a monumental task on his hands, he needs to get something out of the squad so unfortunately he'll need to big up previous achievements even though they weren't up to the standard of the club.
I think he doesn't want to rip into the players too much considering not everyone is leaving the club.
Basically he wants them to know they are not horrible championship level players in his first interview.
That's just my take though.
A reminder that these players should have performed a lot better than they have.
His reporting career has literally been waiting outside gates for big news and being disappointed with nothing but seeing a car drive away!
I for one welcome our new bald overlord - may he forever be of the view that good is not good enough.
Get the impression he has that Ferguson / Roy Keane thing where you win a trophy and the next day all you think about is winning the next one
Get the impression he has that Ferguson / Roy Keane thing where you win a trophy and the next day all you think about is winning the next one
I can guarantee that there are fans who will start bashing Ten Hag within 6 months because United still wouldn't have started playing like Man City or Liverpool or some other top football team. Just hope this time the board gives time to the manager and doesn't get pressured by some of our naive fans who want instant glory and instant results.
The lazy players with the help of some journos will make the manager look like a clown and some of the fans will buy it and want the manager sacked.
Ten Hag out!
How can he possibly say there's potential in the squad when so many on the Caf have told us the players are all terrible?
Clearly the guy is clueless.
How can he possibly say there's potential in the squad when so many on the Caf have told us the players are all terrible?
Clearly the guy is clueless.
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We'll start playing like City/Liverpool from the first game of pre-season, it might not yield results instantly but the progress in the way we play will be clear.
Cotterill reminds me of Gil Gunderson from The Simpsons.
You don’t need to post some variation of this every 5 minutes.
That the squad underperformed and underachieved this season?
Other squads underperformed and had critical injuries last season to allow us to get 2nd.
I just hope the board hasn't hoodwinked him into thinking these players are good enough for 2nd. Pep, Klopp, Tuchel and Conte now say ... no.
No but gotta do something about the gaping hole in MF, need at least 2 there. Need a FW. Need a RB. Need a CB. That's 5 signings. 5 signings is decent start at a rebuild. The 1-2 approved by the board signings is just peppering over huge cracks. There should be no manager worth his merit to look at this United squad from this year and think "ya but this group of players came 2nd a year ago". It either makes him incompetent to think that or it's him speaking with the board already and them telling him "make due". I don't think that's unreasonable expectation for a new manager to get at least 3-4 guys that he hand picks because they fit his play style. But here we go again with a new manager coming out with "it's a fine team already" shite that is clearly marching orders from the board. But I already got a sense of that when reports came out that Andreas Pereira was being looked at to being brought back into the team and the fact there is absolutely zero solid links to any players. It really wouldn't surprise me if we start the season with a Fred-McTominay Then again this is the same club that spent 55m on Fred but is balking out a similar price for a player that ETH has worked with before at a position of great need.
Yes, I'm sure a couple of fat Americans have hoodwinked Ten Hag over the quality of squad.
I'm sure he trusts their opinion over his own eyes.
I get all that, but he should judge the players on what he see's with his own eyes, not some fluke finish last season.
The board would have said to him - these players finished 2nd last season, as some kind of sales pitch.
Totally this, if he can raise our general play up a few notches and we end the season out of CL places but playing cohesive football we will be in a better place than a hard fought 2nd place won on the back of weakened rivals and Bruno + Rashford having stellar seasons. This is the baseline he has to achieve becausr by then you will know that the addition of one or two players will take you up a level and it will be sustainable because you'd have the tactical base covered.
Obviously, the aim will be to play good football like those 2 teams but it will take time to yield the expected results, that's what I feel because I have lost hope in this group of players who will throw the manager under the bus at every given opportunity.
So basically, we had no choice but to be the second best team last season? Other teams always play well, not so well, get injuries - as do we, and we did last season too. We were simply the second best team last season.
We can also say that we ‘underperformed and had injuries/absences this season’ to allow others to finish above us. Over the course of a season, you get what you deserve I think.
Results will take time, but playing with an identity and the way Ten Hag wants us to play should not take long. If the signs are not there in the first game next season i would be worried.
It's just a short-hand for saying the players are better than they made themselves look this season.
It rather goes against the point of saying that if he then qualifies it with "though of course their performances didn't actually warrant that finish and my predecessor was lucky to do that well with this group of players".
Whether the board wants the rebuild or not, we’re about to loose 50% of the first team, they don’t have much choice.
You can't argue the facts; this side finished second and almost won the EL 12 months ago. The additions of Sancho, Varane and Ronaldo were supposed to propel an already good side to one capable of challenging for the title. There is no logical answer as to why it all went to shit this season, truly, but we know the talent is there.
On paper if he can get all of these players back to top form and firing as a team 2nd place is not a pipe dream, it's attainable. But the goal is not 2nd, it's 1st and these players have proven over time to be snakes, it's time for a lot of them to go. I wish it could be done in one window but that's unrealistic. ETH is going to need to reluctantly keep some of them on side until they can be fecked off.
Seriously, how does a team "fluke" a second-place finish in arguably the most competitive league in European football?
I don't have an issue with him throwing some of the players a lifeline. I just hope that the moment any of them deviate from the plan at this point going forward, no more strikes and out.
The simple fact is, we all know this isn't a one, two or even a three window fix...so he will have to rely on a core group of players from the current squad to supplement his plans. It's in his best interests get them onside now.
We had 2 weeks less pre-season than everyone last year meaning an astoundingly short break and we had 5 games in 8 days after the protests. Amazingly we started and ended the season very poorly. It’s odd how that context is totally ignored when the “74” points line is trotted out yet the same people are so understanding of the context around everyone else. Almost like they have an agenda.
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I think it's because one of Ajax fan here said his communication is weak/poor/awkward and if he can't do it in his native language, he would struggle a lot communicating in English. I think this point was made few months ago and like any other topics, all it takes is one poster to say something and other posters just copies that into their posts.