Andersonson
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The only reason he wants to stay is the salary. He know he wont play, and rightly so. He could get game time in Newcastle though, atleast some
Also, clearly a major source of dressing room discontent last season. His situation and unhappiness was referenced in almost every leak.Just wish the clown would go, one of many hangers on.
I have been saying for ages that some of our players just see us as their local gym.this is what happens when you hand out contract extensions and high wages like candy ... no motivation for fringe players to move on. It'll be years until we've cleaned up this mess.
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Couple of French clubs were interested last year, hopefully this brings on of them (or anyone) to the table.Tweet
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I think the issue is that he is nobodys first choice but as the better prospects are snapped up he will start to appeal to those teams who are missing out on their top targets. I think he is most likely going to end up back in Spain given he made his reputation there and is still viewed as a legitimate talent. Would certainly think Villareal would come calling if Torres is sold.Couple of French clubs were interested last year, hopefully this brings on of them (or anyone) to the table.
Fair pointI think the issue is that he is nobodys first choice but as the better prospects are snapped up he will start to appeal to those teams who are missing out on their top targets. I think he is most likely going to end up back in Spain given he made his reputation there and is still viewed as a legitimate talent. Would certainly think Villareal would come calling if Torres is sold.
There are several P.L clubs who would improve a lot with Bailly - Leeds and the newly promoted clubs more than mostProbably too high to be fair
I think if clubs wanted him wed have seen a concrete interest. Theres still time left but not enough if we then want to do business after sales.There are several P.L clubs who would improve a lot with Bailly - Leeds and the newly promoted clubs more than most
Don't think he's a gamble for 8.5m that really doesn't buy you much these days.His injury record is catastrophic. Huge gamble for anyone. £8.5m seems steep.
Missed 4 games though injury last season.His injury record is catastrophic. Huge gamble for anyone. £8.5m seems steep.
I think signing him at any price is a gamble. You can’t build your defence around a crock. And he even manages to get constantly injured as third or fourth choice. Plus he’ll no doubt expect hefty wages to go with that fee. Just don’t see him as a remotely appealing player for any PL club.Don't think he's a gamble for 8.5m that really doesn't buy you much these days.
That can’t be right.Missed 4 games though injury last season.
Not much there is to debate with what you just said. Just forgot that he is always injured and probably on a very high wages.I think signing him at any price is a gamble. You can’t build your defence around a crock. And he even manages to get constantly injured as third or fourth choice. Plus he’ll no doubt expect hefty wages to go with that fee. Just don’t see him as a remotely appealing player for any PL club.
Bailly doesn't have much to offer. Constantly injured, poor and/or reckless when he isn't.Don't think he's a gamble for 8.5m that really doesn't buy you much these days.
Sounds right - he was usually available, we just didn't want to play himThat can’t be right.
For a club like Leeds, he would look quality. He isn't a bad defender for us either, just not good enough. But there is a huge gap between where we want to be - and where Leeds or Fulham are.Bailly doesn't have much to offer. Constantly injured, poor and/or reckless when he isn't.
Well I guess that’s the only way he can avoid injury. Not playing.Sounds right - he was usually available, we just didn't want to play him
*When he's fit and when he decides not to play like an absolute lunatic.For a club like Leeds, he would look quality.* He isn't a bad defender for us either, just not good enough. But there is a huge gap between where we want to be - and where Leeds or Fulham are.
Agree with this. A high line with Varane and Bailly could work very well. Varane is outstanding in the air, and Bailly still better than Lindelof.If not for his fitness record I’d be happy for him to play if he stays. Was underused last season, and stood up with a few big performances, only to be discarded in favour of terribly performing alternatives. Was brought in from the cold at Stamford Bridge of all places and was outstanding. One man defence in Bergamo too while Harry Maguire was being useless alongside him. He’s also excellent on the ball, extremely composed and brings it out very well, although not a world-class passer. He’s our fastest centre-half too. He’s made mistakes in the past, and has out in the worst defensive display I’ve possibly ever seen away in Paris on that special night, but defenders are not guaranteed to be error prone forever.
Anyway, I'm happy for him to go, but he’s worth more than 8.5m in my books, unless he has a year left or something. He should fetch at least 15m on this market, and I think he can go to a Champions League level club.
We’re not really in a position to say that. ‘Experience’ surely isn’t simply the calendar going by. What experience would have looked like would have been a few seasons of being a regular football, the odd mistake included and hopefully decreasing over time. He’s either not been fit enough to play or overlooked when fit. Ole had a clear favour for Lindelöf and Maguire from the beginning, and Rangnick mixed those two up with Varane.There's obviously a player in there, really hoped experience would calm him down but that clearly hasn't happened.
Seems a very, very likely sale and may well go on to do well.
Scary to think he’s been here for six full seasons. He’s 28 and has played in 20 games league games over the past three seasons. There is a player in there, but injuries have been his ruin. He’s also a bit of an idiot, which isn’t going to change.
Got to go.
I’m very disappointed with this thread bumpIt’s time for Bailly to move on.