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I personally don’t think Max was even fighting it today considering he normally takes defending to the extreme. He knew it was coming and said on the radio he couldn’t do anything before the first pass.

Leclerc does tend to be more of a fair driver but he’s had his run ins recently with Perez (crashed into Perez plus both going off track) and with Sainz who were both pushing to the limit.

We shall see when the pressure is on, we haven’t seen Leclerc in a championship fight during the latter stages.
I disagree. Maybe for second overtake, but I thought for first and third overtake Max couldn't do anything. Actually for the first one he was bit sleeping and it was late to react - I don't think he even expected Leclerc from inside, and the third one was brilliant, so early on the breaking and he was already next to him once they started accelerating, Max could only watch him.
 

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Its really confusing that yesterday max shot off in the distance and the ferraris after they stopped squabbling, couldnt get close. Cars are in parc fermme after the sprint so you cant really make many changes to them. We get a lower temperature today and the ferraris breeze by. Ok there was a 13 lap offset on tyres, but still. Its bizarre.

If ferrari were sandbagging during the sprint, you'd have to wonder why. Apparently leclrec was very confident he would win today in his post sprint interviews yesterday. Just strange.
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in the sprint leclerc and sainz were fighting for the first few laps which allowed max to gain a 4+ second lead. catching that back up over 16 laps or so isn’t easy.

it rained this morning, making the track less grippy. the difference today was the ferrari kept it’s tyres fresh where the red bull didn’t. they had to do an extra pit stop and still seemed slower.
 

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So what happened with Gasly after he didnt take the 5 second penalty for exceeding track limits?
 

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in the sprint leclerc and sainz were fighting for the first few laps which allowed max to gain a 4+ second lead. catching that back up over 16 laps or so isn’t easy.

it rained this morning, making the track less grippy. the difference today was the ferrari kept it’s tyres fresh where the red bull didn’t. they had to do an extra pit stop and still seemed slower.
OH I did not know it had rained this morning, that will have made a difference.
 

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Absolutely. For me he's up there with Lewis and Max on driving skill.
As much as i disliked bernie, this was one thing he was good at. Getting top drivers into top teams somehow. Alonso in this years RB or Ferrari would be a force to be reckoned with.
 

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Absolutely. For me he's up there with Lewis and Max on driving skill.
I think everybody knows those three are out in front. Vettel with an honourable mention.

For me the biggest sign of a truly great driver is winning in multiple cars/eras. Only Lewis has done that of the current crop but Max and Leclerc have plenty of time.
 

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Mick starting to show himself as clearly the best of the rookies. His drives this weekend and at Silverstone are way more impressive than anything we've seen out of Zhou or Tsunoda. Or even Albon to be honest.
 

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I’ve been out all day, so I’m just catching up on all the days news.

First of all, Charles fecking Leclerc!!! What a performance from him. So happy.
 

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Not sure Max will, think he will be RB till he cslks it a day.
Nah Max will be gone from RB in 5 years. Ferrari, Audi, Porsche, Mercedes etc. There will be other teams to drive for. Besides a hallmark of a truly great driver is to win the WDC with different teams.
 

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Nah Max will be gone from RB in 5 years. Ferrari, Audi, Porsche, Mercedes etc. There will be other teams to drive for. Besides a hallmark of a truly great driver is to win the WDC with different teams.
Prost and Senna being a pretty big exception there.

I dont see Verstappen leaving Red Bull until his current big contract is up (assuming that they dont fall off a cliff performance wise and his contract allows to leave for that). And even then it would be as big a leap as Hamilton leaving McClaren considering hes been with Red Bull since the cradle.
 

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Sainz's car flaming up like that was absolutely mad, thankfully he got out before the flames spread even further.

Always an entertaining track and had a lot of good overtakes. Mercedes are getting more consistent nearer the top of the table which is good to see.

Gap between Max and Charles is not too wide at the halfway mark. If Ferrari can keep his car from failing then it should be a very interesting conclusion.
 

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I think as today shows, whoever consistently has the best car wins. You can argue until the cows come home who the best driver is, but today Leclerc got passed max twice with ease.

Does that make him a better driver? no, but I don’t think there’s much between them. When Leclerc smells blood he is relentless.

Another stand out drive by Norris today. He took a 5 second penalty for running wide a couple times, and still ended up beating his team mate by 5+ seconds and overtaking magnussen. A few more laps or no penalty and he might have got schumacher also.

I really hope Mclaren can give him a proper car soon as he belongs right at the top.
 

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Ferrari blowing up every other race won't win you championships but it makes for some entertaining races. LeClerc drove like a man possessed, great driving.
 

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It looks to me that they were being extremely pedantic today with the implementation of the rules, it’s racing not a science project.
Got a feeling it might be related to the drivers meeting held on Friday (the one Vettel stormed out of & got fined) where they were complaining about the lack of consistency in the decisions made.

Wouldn’t surprise me if the FIA turned around and started handling all these ridiculous penalties out as a big FU to them.

Pure speculation on my part, but it was apparently a pretty feisty/uncomfortable meeting. I’ve never seen so many track warnings/penalties in my life
 

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Sainz's car flaming up like that was absolutely mad, thankfully he got out before the flames spread even further.

Always an entertaining track and had a lot of good overtakes. Mercedes are getting more consistent nearer the top of the table which is good to see.

Gap between Max and Charles is not too wide at the halfway mark. If Ferrari can keep his car from failing then it should be a very interesting conclusion.
There was a real problem with that escape road being uphill. He couldn’t get the car stopped from rolling backwards to get out, not to mention the marshal trying to get a wedge under the tyres being put in danger.

Have a feeling they’ll maybe look at that for the future, and try to make sure those roads are as flat as possible. That PU was going up fast.
 

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There was a real problem with that escape road being uphill. He couldn’t get the car stopped from rolling backwards to get out, not to mention the marshal trying to get a wedge under the tyres being put in danger.

Have a feeling they’ll maybe look at that for the future, and try to make sure those roads are as flat as possible. That PU was going up fast.
Yeah was mad wasn't it
 

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Mick starting to adapt to the tyres like in the junior categories. It’s something he needs to work on to happen more quickly in future. It was hallmark of his dad that he could adapt to whatever was thrown at him but Mick doesn’t seem to have that just yet.
 

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Prost and Senna being a pretty big exception there.

I dont see Verstappen leaving Red Bull until his current big contract is up (assuming that they dont fall off a cliff performance wise and his contract allows to leave for that). And even then it would be as big a leap as Hamilton leaving McClaren considering hes been with Red Bull since the cradle.
Prost won with McLaren and Williams, and everybody knows the only reason Senna didn't was that he didn't live long enough.

I feel like Max and Horner will end up falling out. There's never room for two big egos in a team. Usually it's the drivers but this time the boss has a bigger ego than all of them.
 

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Got a feeling it might be related to the drivers meeting held on Friday (the one Vettel stormed out of & got fined) where they were complaining about the lack of consistency in the decisions made.

Wouldn’t surprise me if the FIA turned around and started handling all these ridiculous penalties out as a big FU to them.

Pure speculation on my part, but it was apparently a pretty feisty/uncomfortable meeting. I’ve never seen so many track warnings/penalties in my life
It wouldnt be surprising. Austria isn't even a track where its that necessary to enforce them, not like the daft tarmac bowls where drivers can go wherever they want.
 

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There was a real problem with that escape road being uphill. He couldn’t get the car stopped from rolling backwards to get out, not to mention the marshal trying to get a wedge under the tyres being put in danger.
He could have turned the steering wheel and let the car back into the barrier. Maybe not something you think about when the car is on fire, but would have been quicker than relying on the stewards.
 

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Prost and Senna being a pretty big exception there.

I dont see Verstappen leaving Red Bull until his current big contract is up (assuming that they dont fall off a cliff performance wise and his contract allows to leave for that). And even then it would be as big a leap as Hamilton leaving McClaren considering hes been with Red Bull since the cradle.
Senna drove for mclaren, williams, tyrell. Obviously if he hadnt of died he might have won a title with williams. Prost drove for mclaren, williams, renault and ferrari. Winning titles with mclaren and williams.

I can see max at Ferrari somewhere down the line.
 

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When the race is on too late in your timezone but you catch a glimpse of someone in red on the podium on the local news :devil::devil:



What a race by the man!!
 

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He could have turned the steering wheel and let the car back into the barrier. Maybe not something you think about when the car is on fire, but would have been quicker than relying on the stewards.
The problem is to get out of the car you need to remove the steering wheel. The car was sitting still while he had his foot on the brake, but as he tried to get out it started rolling.

Obviously at that point panic starts setting in and no doubt he could see/feel the flames getting closer and hotter and was getting very worried.

In that situation the Marshalls need to act WAY faster. They should have been there waiting for him ready with the stops. They didn't even have them close by, 1 of the marshalls had to drop his extinguisher and run back to find them.

I get that it was a freak incident but they need to be alert and ready for all situations. I have no doubt in the future they'll make sure on the slopped areas they have the equipment ready immediately.