I see you have some trouble with counting.He's been shit for 6 whole year, but somehow this year would be different, clean slate FC
I see you have some trouble with counting.He's been shit for 6 whole year, but somehow this year would be different, clean slate FC
No agenda hereHe's been shit for 6 whole year, but somehow this year would be different, clean slate FC
Martial actually does press when we don't have the ball, it's his movement when we do have the ball that needs a lot of work
Yes he does - and he plays more as centre forward these days so you don't want him much deeper than the halfway line anyways.What about tracking back ??
He doesn't do that
Well he hasn't for most of his United career, hence why Mourinho hardly played him.Yes he does - and he plays more as centre forward these days so you don't want him much deeper than the halfway line anyways.
If he presses well, and more importantly (as this is the aspect where I think he's horribly wanting), he adds intelligent movement to his game when we're in possession, that would be more than enough for me. Not sure I'd want a number 9 constantly tracking back deep into our own half - that's not the role.Well he hasn't for most of his United career, hence why Mourinho hardly played him.
lets hope he's turned over a new leaf
Where do you have all this evidence of change from ? the friendlies ?I know he's officially now a 9 but I'd like to see what he can do on the left with Ronnie up top. Hopefully with all his personal demons out of his system now he won't sulk about and does the work of pressing, showing for the ball, taking on defenders, fighting for that half-yard of space inside the box and maybe even attempting a header.
We have two buckets of evidence: the last two seasons of competitive matches and the friendlies of this summer. Can we actually be sure that Martial’s credible performances in the summer friendlies against second and third rate opposition will prevail over his sulking performances over the last two seasons? I’m not sure we can be sure, but we will find out and I want to see him start over Rashford, who has been horrifying in his first two performances this season.Where do you have all this evidence of change from ? the friendlies ?
He should but imagine the reaction about Ronaldo being benched if he does (one of the many reasons he should be gone).Has to start.
Its Rashford who should go to the bench with Martial up top and Ronaldo from Left on free role without having to play back to the goal.He should but imagine the reaction about Ronaldo being benched if he does (one of the many reasons he should be gone).
Not that Rashford works hard but the last thing this team can afford is anyone having a 'free role'.Its Rashford who should go to the bench with Martial up top and Ronaldo from Left on free role without having to play back to the goal.
To be honest, ETH should not give a shit what Ronnie thinks.He should but imagine the reaction about Ronaldo being benched if he does (one of the many reasons he should be gone).
TAA and Salah will absolutely destroy us if Ronaldo plays from the left.Its Rashford who should go to the bench with Martial up top and Ronaldo from Left on free role without having to play back to the goal.
Guess absence does make the heart grow fonder... A fully fit Martial still has huge question marks over him after years of under performance but now somehow after 2 decent pre-seaon games a half fit Martial is better than Ronaldo? Jesus Christ.Even if he’s not fit enough, hope he starts and plays 60 minutes. Even at his lazy worst, he offers more than Ronaldo as a striker.
If we go by preseason form, then Dalot is better than James.Even if he’s not fit enough, hope he starts and plays 60 minutes. Even at his lazy worst, he offers more than Ronaldo as a striker.
Yet another player of ours who becomes an all time great when out injured.Even if he’s not fit enough, hope he starts and plays 60 minutes. Even at his lazy worst, he offers more than Ronaldo as a striker.
Even if he’s not fit enough, hope he starts and plays 60 minutes. Even at his lazy worst, he offers more than Ronaldo as a striker.
just gonna forget about Ronaldo 24 goals......Even if he’s not fit enough, hope he starts and plays 60 minutes. Even at his lazy worst, he offers more than Ronaldo as a striker.
Agreed, not surprised a lot of people still don't get how a team works.Even if he’s not fit enough, hope he starts and plays 60 minutes. Even at his lazy worst, he offers more than Ronaldo as a striker.
Not sure how people are laughing at this, Ronaldo’s minimal linkup play and just off the ball ability is so evident but I guess he scored a hattrick against Norwich last season!Even if he’s not fit enough, hope he starts and plays 60 minutes. Even at his lazy worst, he offers more than Ronaldo as a striker.
Pretty sure I didn't say anything about Martial being better than Ronaldo.Guess absence does make the heart grow fonder... A fully fit Martial still has huge question marks over him after years of under performance but now somehow after 2 decent pre-seaon games a half fit Martial is better than Ronaldo? Jesus Christ.
Yes, because a clinical finisher to put away the numerous chances we create is exactly what this team has been missing.just gonna forget about Ronaldo 24 goals......
My bad. A unfit Martial offers MORE than RonaldoPretty sure I didn't say anything about Martial being better than Ronaldo.
Yes, because a clinical finisher to put away the numerous chances we create is exactly what this team has been missing.
Oh dear: martial mythPretty sure I didn't say anything about Martial being better than Ronaldo.
Yes, because a clinical finisher to put away the numerous chances we create is exactly what this team has been missing.
When was the last time Martial played well from the left? He is better in CF where he played virtually a whole season under ole and was brilliant.Against Liverpool, assuming Martial is physically and mentally fit to play:
Heaton (yes, bench De Gea and I'm not a De Gea hater)
Dalot Bailly Varane Malacia
Fred Eriksen
Donny
Sancho Ronaldo Martial
Martial is vastly more effective coming in off the left than he is in a CF position and Rashford has been horrifying, so start him on the left. Let Martial work with Ronaldo and see what comes of it. Sancho has been ineffective but dropping him doesn't make sense right now.
Bruno has been poor, so Donny. Sure, Fred is an issue but unless Frenkie is a United player by this middle of this week (extremely unlikely) let's go with Fred and Eriksen in midfield. Part of me wants to Garner but Garner appears to be on his way out. The back line...well, something has to be done.
But back to Martial. Why not let him have a go at his natural position?
This notion that he's better off the left needs to die.When was the last time Martial played well from the left? He is better in CF where he played virtually a whole season under ole and was brilliant.
You may wish to read that post againOh dear: martial myth
Oh dear: martial myth
He needs to drop one of our front three regardless because Ronaldo isn't compatible with Rashford with Sancho. I don't see how it will ever work with all of them starting against any team and not just Liverpool.Ronaldo dropped will be a huge statement, but just can't see it with Martial coming back from injury
He's certainly been shit on the left less often than he's been shit up front.This notion that he's better off the left needs to die.
I'm not sure this fits, I was wondering if you needed a referal for stating "Even at his lazy worst, he offers more than Ronaldo as a striker."
Again, not what I said.
This forum is just turning into a bunch of old aunties that are looking for a reason to get offended and get on their high horses.
no need to re-read, perhaps you should?You may wish to read that post again
Even if he’s not fit enough, hope he starts and plays 60 minutes. Even at his lazy worst, he offers more than Ronaldo as a striker.
Well you completely misinterpreted the posters point. I assume you didn’t detect the sarcasm. The poster wasn’t implying Martial was a clinical finisher. So no, I don’t think I do need to read it again.I'm not sure this fits, I was wondering if you needed a referal for stating "Even at his lazy worst, he offers more than Ronaldo as a striker."
no need to re-read, perhaps you should?
Using a maligned incongruity undermines any attempt, even if there was an attempt, at sacasm. Reading isn't the issue, framing for quality sarcacm is an issue.Well you completely misinterpreted the posters point. I assume you didn’t detect the sarcasm. The poster wasn’t implying Martial was a clinical finisher. So no, I don’t think I do need to read it again.
Disagree.He's certainly been shit on the left less often than he's been shit up front.