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Such a chaotic player. Makes dozens of stupid choices in a game, but plays with a mad energy and pisses everyone off. I hate his erratic passing, but his pressing, defending and shithousing abilities are underrated.
 

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His shithousery is only entertaining when we're winning.

The annoying thing can be when he does that shite when we're drawing/losing :lol:
 

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He had some mad mad moments. Like the corner they had where he blasted it into Martinez, or when he dribbled at the back, for what seemed like an age and did what everybody knew would happen, get tackled when surrounded by three people. Or that dive which was so damn obvious.
And that last pass near the end of the match, is what we see a lot from him when Ronaldo is on the pitch (I think it was ronaldo he was trying to find, but not the point im making),...


However his effort cant be denied. Yesterday we saw some elements of him being dispossessed and staying down. But an example of when he lost the ball, (like near the end) working his ass off to get it back (and I think he won a freekick to kill the clock).
 

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I thought he played well today, but I tend to take a bigger picture approach to performances. It surprises me that someone as typically myopic as you has wrote the bolded.

Bruno today lost the ball on the edge of his own box trying to dribble, holding on to the ball too long when there were options to release it, almost scoring an own goal with a ridiculously careless and rash ‘shot’ at his own goal, diving yet again then getting involved in a brainless manner after their goal which could’ve ended in a red as he was booked for the dive, but worst of all giving the ball away in the 93rd minute. What was he thinking. All of these could’ve cost us 3pts

I’m suprised by the amount of people criticising him today but it’s hypocritical for someone like you not to be imo. Just how careless is he on a bad day?
Hypocritical? Feck off.

And the irony of you calling me myopic when you failed to see what was happening right in front of your eyes.

Bruno's pass completion was 67% last night. Not great but above average for the team (which was 67%) Considering how hit and miss his passing often is, I would say a match where his pass completion is better than average for the team confirms exactly what I saw with my myopic eyes.

He completed 26 passes (as compared to 16 from Eriksen and 18 from McT) He also had more touches than any other United player. More carries than any other United player. He made more pressures than any United player. His "tackles + interceptions" were better than any player who wasn't playing in defence. His xA was the highest in the team. Ditto his Shot Creating Actions.

As for the absolute weapons getting their panties in a bunch about a miscued clearance being saved on the line, the exact same thing happened to Martinez, with DDG bailing him out. Shit happens when the ball is ping balling around the box and I'd rather have players attacking the ball in our box than not being involved at all.

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I'm surprised that there are posters who don't understand why Bruno is being criticised for parts for his performance yesterday.

No doubt about it, off the ball he was perfect, you probably couldn't have a better performance than that. On the ball however, the same old mistakes and carelessness that he's now known for were clear to see and could have really cost us. Giving the ball away, getting caught in a dangerous position, terrible clearance that nearly led to an own goal, going down faking an injury against clean challenges and the inexcusable pass played to Ronaldo in the dying seconds of the game.

His performance was filled with errors on the ball and at this point it's just part of his game. He isn't being targeted or made to be a scape goat as some think, it's just an honest assessment of the type of player he is and the game he played yesterday.
 

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I'm surprised that there are posters who don't understand why Bruno is being criticised for parts for his performance yesterday.

No doubt about it, off the ball he was perfect, you probably couldn't have a better performance than that. On the ball however, the same old mistakes and carelessness that he's now known for were clear to see and could have really cost us. Giving the ball away, getting caught in a dangerous position, terrible clearance that nearly led to an own goal, going down faking an injury against clean challenges and the inexcusable pass played to Ronaldo in the dying seconds of the game.

His performance was filled with errors on the ball and at this point it's just part of his game. He isn't being targeted or made to be a scape goat as some think, it's just an honest assessment of the type of player he is and the game he played yesterday.
Jesus. How many times are those three incidents going to get mentioned? Yes, he was once caught in possession outside our own box. Yes he miscued a clearance. Yes he chose the wrong option in injury time. He touched the ball 57 times last night. More than any other player in red. Why are people getting so fecking hung up on the 3 times out of 57 it went badly?
 

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To me he was still a liability he ran his socks off but he also was a greater threat to our goal than the Liverpool front line. First half he gave the ball away stupidly just outside our box because he decided to dribble past the whole of the Liverpool team and Liverpool could have scored. He nearly scored one of the most ridiculous own goals you will ever see. Second half he decided to miss out his entire team and put Liverpool right into the accendency. Right at the end started playing stupid Hollywood balls and losing the ball that could have lead to a last minute Liverpool winner. Just all over the place.
 

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Jesus. How many times are those three incidents going to get mentioned? Yes, he was once caught in possession outside our own box. Yes he miscued a clearance. Yes he chose the wrong option in injury time. He touched the ball 57 times last night. More than any other player in red. Why are people getting so fecking hung up on the 3 times out of 57 it went badly?
Its the in thing to do.

Attack Bruno for his mistakes.

Forget that he made the Elanga chance, put Rashford in a few times, the ball for the 1st goal.

People do not care about that. They expect 100% accuracy.

I actually like 1 player doing what he does to try find a great pass that will create chances.
 

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He was great yesterday; took total responsibility and looked to get on the ball as much as possible and make things happen. A few sloppy touches but the guy must've covered close to 14km and was more involved than any other United player, cannot fault that attitude and application.
 

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Jesus. How many times are those three incidents going to get mentioned? Yes, he was once caught in possession outside our own box. Yes he miscued a clearance. Yes he chose the wrong option in injury time. He touched the ball 57 times last night. More than any other player in red. Why are people getting so fecking hung up on the 3 times out of 57 it went badly?
:lol: At least one more time, as it turns out…
 

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Jesus. How many times are those three incidents going to get mentioned? Yes, he was once caught in possession outside our own box. Yes he miscued a clearance. Yes he chose the wrong option in injury time. He touched the ball 57 times last night. More than any other player in red. Why are people getting so fecking hung up on the 3 times out of 57 it went badly?
Are we definitely sure he was trying to clear it though? :nervous:

( Obviously he was, though I've watched that clip about 10 times this morning and I still have no idea what he thought was going to happen :lol: )
 

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3?

1) He got caught in possession on the edge.
2) He sliced a clearance.
3) ?
Start of the second half he completely messed up the kick off and gave it straight to firmino and nearly put Luiz in. And we spent 5 minutes with Liverpool on the edge of our box. Purely down to that one error.
 

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Start of the second half he completely messed up the kick off and gave it straight to firmino and nearly put Luiz in. And we spent 5 minutes with Liverpool on the edge of our box. Purely down to that one error.
Jesus christ :lol:

"nearly gave away 3 goals"
 

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Jesus christ :lol:

"nearly gave away 3 goals"
He did. Those are 3 times he nearly gave away a goal. If that was pogba you guys would be slating him. Bruno gave his all he worked hard it was great and infectious for the team. But he also was completely irratic and nearly undid all the good work of him and the team a few times. Even at the end 93rd minute instead of keeping the ball he went for a Hollywood pass which easily could have led to Liverpool getting one last chance on goal.
 

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He did. Those are 3 times he nearly gave away a goal. If that was pogba you guys would be slating him. Bruno gave his all he worked hard it was great and infectious for the team. But he also was completely irratic and nearly undid all the good work of him and the team a few times. Even at the end 93rd minute instead of keeping the ball he went for a Hollywood pass which easily could have led to Liverpool getting one last chance on goal.
The first two, I give you. Although the slice was just unfortunate. But him losing the ball from kick off didn't nearly cost us a goal.

I wouldn't slate Pogba for losing the ball from kick off either.
 

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Jesus. How many times are those three incidents going to get mentioned? Yes, he was once caught in possession outside our own box. Yes he miscued a clearance. Yes he chose the wrong option in injury time. He touched the ball 57 times last night. More than any other player in red. Why are people getting so fecking hung up on the 3 times out of 57 it went badly?
If Pogba had a game with the same errors at the moments Bruno did, your posts would be totally different. It's quite bemusing that you're understating the impact of three very big errors in such a close and big games. These can often be the difference between 3 points and 1 point.

Of course the errors will be highlighted. We just got lucky they didn't lead to goals. He's a very careless player and while he was amazing off the ball yesterday, his ability on the ball in possession was poor and its been poor for well over a year now.
 

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Hypocritical? Feck off.

And the irony of you calling me myopic when you failed to see what was happening right in front of your eyes.

Bruno's pass completion was 67% last night. Not great but above average for the team (which was 67%) Considering how hit and miss his passing often is, I would say a match where his pass completion is better than average for the team confirms exactly what I saw with my myopic eyes.

He completed 26 passes (as compared to 16 from Eriksen and 18 from McT) He also had more touches than any other United player. More carries than any other United player. He made more pressures than any United player. His "tackles + interceptions" were better than any player who wasn't playing in defence. His xA was the highest in the team. Ditto his Shot Creating Actions.

As for the absolute weapons getting their panties in a bunch about a miscued clearance being saved on the line, the exact same thing happened to Martinez, with DDG bailing him out. Shit happens when the ball is ping balling around the box and I'd rather have players attacking the ball in our box than not being involved at all.

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You’re a complete hypocrite. Your using stats where for other players you completely reject statistics, if they don’t go along the line you want them to.

You’re also completely glossing over Bruno, for the umpteenth time, losing the ball on the edge of his own box doing something stupid. He’s cost us goals before doing this and cost us our last chance at top four last season. Defending erratically almost costing us a goal and making brain dead decisions in the final minutes that even the manager was unhappy about. This is as hypocritical as it gets, since I’ve seen players have far better games than Bruno last night and you’ve been bang in on them for one mistake, let alone they should make 3/4 whoppers. It’s not even like there’s a caveat of good form. He’s been consistently garbage, absolutely woeful for the past season and a half, week in week out.

You dive in on players you dislike for a perceived 1 good game in 5 yet show up here 2 games out of 40 ignoring things you’d be slating others for.

Personally though…I thought he played well last night because I focus on the bigger picture. I’d already posted my opinion of his performance before you joined the chat, so I don’t need a statistical breakdown. Are you even sure they are his stats? It wouldn’t be the first time you’ve rushed in with the wrong ones.
 

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Jesus. How many times are those three incidents going to get mentioned? Yes, he was once caught in possession outside our own box. Yes he miscued a clearance. Yes he chose the wrong option in injury time. He touched the ball 57 times last night. More than any other player in red. Why are people getting so fecking hung up on the 3 times out of 57 it went badly?
dude calm the feck down ha. There were several instances where he got caught with the ball incredibly deep. Yeah it didnt result directly in a goal, but odds are if he keeps it up it will happen, and happen more than just once. Plus he was the most incredibly lucky that he didnt get that OG, which changes the game completely. Thats like saying well i closed my eyes and ran across this highway 6 times and i didnt get hit, so why are people freaking out? it was just luck that it didnt result in at least one goal against yesterday, if not more. He needs to clean up his game if he wants to be considered a star player. This isnt a player who is supposed to be rotating in with others, and we can say well he did the job yesterday. Bruno is supposed to be an every game, lead the team type player. Players such as those need to be held to high standards.
 

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dude calm the feck down ha. There were several instances where he got caught with the ball incredibly deep. Yeah it didnt result directly in a goal, but odds are if he keeps it up it will happen, and happen more than just once. Plus he was the most incredibly lucky that he didnt get that OG, which changes the game completely. Thats like saying well i closed my eyes and ran across this highway 6 times and i didnt get hit, so why are people freaking out? it was just luck that it didnt result in at least one goal against yesterday, if not more. He needs to clean up his game if he wants to be considered a star player. This isnt a player who is supposed to be rotating in with others, and we can say well he did the job yesterday. Bruno is supposed to be an every game, lead the team type player. Players such as those need to be held to high standards.
It already has…Arsenal away, Leicester away off the top of my head. Palace away last season he played a blind pass that led to them scoring. Watford away the same led to a penalty I think. There’s others too and plenty of times he’s gotten away with it.
 

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Did Bruno get an assist for the Sancho goal after he very helpfully pointed him in the right direction , Roy Keane pointed out the importance of it just in case Sancho forgot where the goal was.
 

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Jesus. How many times are those three incidents going to get mentioned? Yes, he was once caught in possession outside our own box. Yes he miscued a clearance. Yes he chose the wrong option in injury time. He touched the ball 57 times last night. More than any other player in red. Why are people getting so fecking hung up on the 3 times out of 57 it went badly?
Because it's what costs us fecking games! How are you this dense not to see this? If a defender does three stupid things in a match, are you going to be like "ah yeah well it was only three things lads". Of course not. And I have less of an issue with the miskicked clearance as the other stupid shit, because the clearance is a split second thing that can happen to anyone but the others are deliberately bad decisions.

If one of those needless giveaways had turned into an equalizer, or he got sent off, people on here would be incensed and rightfully so. Stop looking so much at fecking results and think more about the process.
 

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One thing is for certain, he plays much better wothout ronaldo on the pitch. Same with portugal.

Give ETH time, his and his staff with get him playing the way they want. Personally i like him as captain for now.
 

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Because it's what costs us fecking games! How are you this dense not to see this? If a defender does three stupid things in a match, are you going to be like "ah yeah well it was only three things lads". Of course not. And I have less of an issue with the miskicked clearance as the other stupid shit, because the clearance is a split second thing that can happen to anyone but the others are deliberately bad decisions.

If one of those needless giveaways had turned into an equalizer, or he got sent off, people on here would be incensed and rightfully so. Stop looking so much at fecking results and think more about the process.
Seen you on threads about the game yesterday on Bruno. Where is this energy when Lisandro almost miscued his clearance into his own net?

Or is this saved for players you have an agenda against?
 

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Because it's what costs us fecking games! How are you this dense not to see this? If a defender does three stupid things in a match, are you going to be like "ah yeah well it was only three things lads". Of course not. And I have less of an issue with the miskicked clearance as the other stupid shit, because the clearance is a split second thing that can happen to anyone but the others are deliberately bad decisions.

If one of those needless giveaways had turned into an equalizer, or he got sent off, people on here would be incensed and rightfully so. Stop looking so much at fecking results and think more about the process.
Oh I get it. You think every player should go 90 minutes without making any bad decisions. Which is insane, obviously. But the only conclusion I can make when I see you banging on and on about two poor decisions from the player on our team who touched the ball more than any other.
 

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dude calm the feck down ha. There were several instances where he got caught with the ball incredibly deep. Yeah it didnt result directly in a goal, but odds are if he keeps it up it will happen, and happen more than just once. Plus he was the most incredibly lucky that he didnt get that OG, which changes the game completely. Thats like saying well i closed my eyes and ran across this highway 6 times and i didnt get hit, so why are people freaking out? it was just luck that it didnt result in at least one goal against yesterday, if not more. He needs to clean up his game if he wants to be considered a star player. This isnt a player who is supposed to be rotating in with others, and we can say well he did the job yesterday. Bruno is supposed to be an every game, lead the team type player. Players such as those need to be held to high standards.
He's not even supposed to be playing so deep. Some of you are frothing at the mouth looking for mistakes that you don't even realize this. With a proper setup he should be the most advanced midfielder and nowhere near our box.
 

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Jesus. How many times are those three incidents going to get mentioned? Yes, he was once caught in possession outside our own box. Yes he miscued a clearance. Yes he chose the wrong option in injury time. He touched the ball 57 times last night. More than any other player in red. Why are people getting so fecking hung up on the 3 times out of 57 it went badly?
Because this is how it’s always worked on here sadly. I’ve seen you do similar.
 

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It already has…Arsenal away, Leicester away off the top of my head. Palace away last season he played a blind pass that led to them scoring. Watford away the same led to a penalty I think. There’s others too and plenty of times he’s gotten away with it.
Southampton and Leeds away last season.
 

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Seen you on threads about the game yesterday on Bruno. Where is this energy when Lisandro almost miscued his clearance into his own net?

Or is this saved for players you have an agenda against?
Difference is lisandro had Luiz running near post with the ball flying in at pace totally understandable. Bruno had time and ball was at a good height yet he whacked it into the goal.
 

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The more you watch that Bruno shot on his own goal, the more cringey it looks. It wasn't just an unfortunate ricochet...Bruno took a proper swipe at the ball.
He frequently has brainfreeze episodes in 25 yards radius of his own goal. Here he was less than a yard away.
 

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He's not even supposed to be playing so deep. Some of you are frothing at the mouth looking for mistakes that you don't even realize this. With a proper setup he should be the most advanced midfielder and nowhere near our box.
i mean that isnt how it works. Even strikers will be around their own box at times for corners and deep free kicks.
 

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Yes, Southampton one is a bit harsh but I’ve seen others heavily criticised for less.
Looked no different from your average caf favourite of ‘dallying on the ball’ to me. They are all generally harsh though. Players get dispossessed, part of the game. Of course, they should be sensible on the ball, but will always happen from time to time.
 

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Think he was hit and miss yesterday. Great effort all game, some great passes like the cross pass to Eriksen before our 1st goal, but then sloppy moments too. Horrible dive. Needless holding the ball after their goal. I think he's way too emotional of a player generally. Doesn't have that much composure so his quality level will vary all over the place. Can't fault the effort at all, but once our team is more confident and calm, I think he'll also start playing more calmly. Once we start losing our heads a bit... He just starts running like a blind chicken and isn't capable of calming down proceedings.
 

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Looked no different from your average caf favourite of ‘dallying on the ball’ to me. They are all generally harsh though. Players get dispossessed, part of the game. Of course, they should be sensible on the ball, but will always happen from time to time.
Agreed.
 
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