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There’s something very funny about your boy being the third best with the name Ronaldo in that five a side team.
wow, ronaldo's bodyguards are out on duty tonight.
Simply pointing out the foolishness of your absurd post. I'll be waiting to see Haaland score "50-60 goals a season for the next 5-7 years" - this is a projection you've made after watching less than 10 games
The irony. Do you know the word projecting? How do you know I've only watched less than 10 games of Haaland? The only foolishness was people saying that he would struggle to adapt to the premiership, get injured all the time and pep wouldn't know how to utilise him when Haaland adapts to all systems and doesn't need a system catered towards his style neither does he need to scream, flap his arms in the air and throw tantrums while bullying his teammates into passing him the ball every time there is a chance at goalSimply pointing out the foolishness of your absurd post. I'll be waiting to see Haaland score "50-60 goals a season for the next 5-7 years" - this is a projection you've made after watching less than 10 games
Haaland makes things happen of his own accord by being in the right place at the right time while at the same time making sure he selflessly holds up the ball to play others into the game.
Prime ronaldo, needed rooney, tevez to do the donkey work for him and at real benzema and ozil were basically his servants paid to play for Ronaldo.
The guy putting him in his 5-a-side thinks he’s the GOAT
Not true and just pure revisionism. If Ronaldo really kept these players as slaves like you’re insinuating, they wouldn’t say they loved to play with him so much. Benzema still says that till this day. Ozil played his best football next to Ronaldo & always has nothing but praise for him.
And btw, Ronaldo actually assisted Rooney more times than vice versa.
Ffs is this a Ronaldo performances thread or a Haaland thread? Every other post is the same shit.
There was a leaked interview from a former madridista player who done a interview where he said players were instructed to praise Ronaldo in the media but it's been pulled down, so I would take what they say with a pinch of salt, especially since ronaldo left, it is only then Benzema was able to blossom into the world class elite player he is today instead of being known for being Ronaldo's supplier. Hand on his heart behind closed doors Benzema would probably say it was a blessing when he left.
Real Madrid just won a CL without Ronaldo.
Also RM never faced peak Messi in the UCL when they won it 3 times in a row.
Real had Modric,Kroos,Benzema,Bale,Ramos, Casemiro, and Marcelo...all of them at their prime.
Ronaldo isn't the only reason they won 3 CLs in a row, as a matter of fact he had a poor game against Atlético and Liverpool in the finals, other stepped up for him, which is good, because it's a team game.
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He's very far from our best striker. He's just not a good footballer anymore due to his age. He's slow, his reactions are slow, he's not agile, he can't get shots off even against a team from Moldova and looks every bit his age now.
He's honestly too far past it now. The only use he can provide for a team is being a guy in the box to score from a header or find space for a first time tap in... But that's it. He is so far off the required level in every other aspect now. The second he needs to take a touch before shooting, the chance is ruined.
Thank God someone said it.
Which player was this? I don’t remember of such. I do remember a chess world champion saying he was told to say Ronaldo was the best in the world when he did an interview on his visit to Real Madrid.
EDIT: by the way… you do realise those players enjoyed a lot of success that was a direct result of Ronaldo’s influence right? I very much doubt Benzema didn’t enjoy playing with him. I’m certain he did. And Benzema wasn’t always as good as he was last 2 years. It wasn’t just because of Ronaldo’s departure that he got better.
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It was a chess player who supports Real, he was instructed by the club to say it.
This is all going to go exactly the way it was predicted. The media will keep asking about Ronaldo, his mates/former United players will start questioning why he doesn't play (even though he's fairly rubbish right now and doesn't to play) until ETH will probably be forced into playing him to keep the media and Rio and Co at bay.
Well according to the Telegraph he'll be allowed to leave in Jan.
That would be incredible.
That would be incredible.
Please please be true.
Ronaldo was great that season but so was Rooney and many other players. I actually liked that Ronaldo the most because he combined style and substance, by the end of his career he had pared down his game so much that it was goals or nothing else. Whereas that season he was the perfect balance between the two. And I'd be the first to say in other threads that goals aren't everything, for example I really rate what Hazard did pre-Real Madrid. Context is important.
But.. that season of Ronaldo wouldn't be the best PL season ever, meanwhile Haaland on current clip is on track to be easily the greatest PL season ever. I think it's unlikely he keeps up this pace, but if he does, there's no real argument of Ronaldo in 06/07 being better than a 40-50 goal Haaland this season.
So it's going to play out like the summer with no one showing tangible interest again?
I don't think so.
I think he looks like he's accepted that he'll either have to take a pay cut or accept going to a club that isn't of the calibre that he's used to.
He probably thought in his head that if no one wants me at least I'll be a starter at United and score more goals but now he's a bench player things are different. He'll start talking to the Sportings and the Napolis of football imo.
He’s not famous for his thinking, luckily for himThe guy putting him in his 5-a-side thinks he’s the GOAT
To be fair, if we compare their first 150 goals or something, Ronaldo does has far better catalogue of goals, as many of his early goals (scored as being winger) were spectacular (ie long range rockets, freekicks, dribble goals etc)
I can say the same about Messi in the Guardiola era
Martial appears to have got back into decent form this season, so when he's fit he is our best striker. Our entire attack and build-up functions far better with him up front than anybody else.
I do think Ronaldo is still a better striker than Rashford in most games though, despite his rough start to the season. A big match against City isn't one of them though, where really our only hope is probably Rashford hitting them on the break (although an argument could be made that he'd be better doing that on the left so Ronaldo should still be playing at striker).
Yea that was what I was trying to explain, no one said he had done better or was the better the player, he has just scored more goals up to this point in his career.
As for the record, it's impossible to know but if I had to make a prediction I'd probably say that he won't beat it for the same reasons you listed. It's a huge task to keep scoring like that for over a decade.
It was obvious the agenda regarding Ronaldo not starting would rise the moment we lost. The media have been waiting. Completely ignoring how shot his been when his played for club & country.
How the hell has he been disrespected when ETH has done nothing but praise him even when he refused to show up for work. Ronaldo not being sharp is his own doing and his had plenty time since pre season to get fit and he still looks rough. Martial scores 2 and people thing Ronaldo not playing was the problem.
How the hell has he been disrespected when ETH has done nothing but praise him even when he refused to show up for work. Ronaldo not being sharp is his own doing and his had plenty time since pre season to get fit and he still looks rough. Martial scores 2 and people thing Ronaldo not playing was the problem.
Ronaldo’s options in the summer would have been that Saudi Arabia club and someone like Sporting who were either going to pay him next to nothing or expect us to pay his wages. The big clubs who Mendes went begging to made their stances clear and public.
As for the club disrespecting Ronaldo. So? He disrespected the club first.
As for the club disrespecting Ronaldo. So? He disrespected the club first.
Yeah other players were great but Ronaldo was in a class of his own in a way that couldn’t really be encapsulated in numbers alone. I remember even the premier league highlights show from that season dedicating a section just for him.
But I agree with your last points. If halaand keeps up this pace, there can be no arguments against him as just the sheer numbers he’ll have will be otherworldly.
It doesn’t help either when the likes of Rio and Keane are joining in spouting the same narrative that he has to start because he’s a goal scorer. Completely ignoring the fact he’s on the decline. He’s not even at the level he was when he joined us last year never mind his earlier years. The whole world knows the only way you beat City is on the counter attack. So why on earth would Ronaldo be a good option when he can barely get past any defender nowadays and he’s never been great at hold up play.
I hope he goes in Jan. Hes done and can only be a distraction around the place and a media circus.
Shut up Rio, you and your ugly sweater.
He's a prime example of an ex footballer who doesn't have a big understanding of the game.
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Someone needs to pass to Haaland to score goals, just as someone used to pass to prime Ronaldo. So if that's donkey work that goes for both players. In other words, I'm far from being Ronaldo fan but you're speaking a lot of waffle here. Not to mention that in 2008 season he scored 42 goals in all competitons playing as a winger.
Also I'm actively avoiding Haaland threads, only to find one here. What's that about?
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Difference is the whole system doesn't need changing to cater towards Haaland, where the whole team needs to be structured around ronaldo for him to thrive. Look at his time at Juve and last season with us. Ronaldo sucked all the goals out of the team no one else was scoring besides him, as he plays for himself. Dybala scoring rate dropped at Juve, bruno and rashford's scoring rate dropped last season when ronaldo was central figure. Benzema's scoring rate dropped at Real.
Players around Haaland like young Foden are still able to shine because Haaland brings them into play and doesn't need the whole team to be set up to service him alone and actually it brings joy to Haaland seeing his teammates score.
In 2008 he was an inverted forward interchanging between rooney and tevez where he often took up centre positions up front alongside them and was assigned free kick and penalty duties so was not a conventional winger by any stretch of the imagination
So you're moving goalposts now. First it was somebody needs to make a donkey work for him and now it's the system changing stuff. Changing system or not he did score all those goals and it doesnt make it any less significant just cause Haaland supposedly brings others to play and Ronaldo supposedly didnt do that (and its somewhere in the middle between the 2). When you have a player like Ronaldo in his prime you change your system to suit him. Are Messi's goal less important cause the whole Barcelona system was made to suit him?
It's as if you dont like Ronaldo much and are a Haaland and Foden fan. Do you feel privileged watching them?
Interchanging or not, conventional or not, Ronaldno was a winger in 2008. What do freekicks and penalties have to do with anything in that regard?
The myth about his time at Juventus needed to be stopped. You are just cherry picking one example with Dybala, who wasn’t known to be consistent goalscorer anyway. I can also said Morata scored most in his career best season playing alongside with Ronaldo too. Truth is, Juventus overall tally has dropped significantly after Ronaldo left last season, which defeat your whole theory there.
Not moving the goalposts, you brought up the he use to be a winger, as if his role was just to hug the touchline and whip in crosses when he was more or less playing similar to the role mane and salah played at Liverpool. I agree it was right to change systems for prime ronaldo and what he achieved was unbelievable. There's no doubting that, but we need to include other equations into why and how he managed to thrive and score so many goals. It always came at the cost of other players, even rooney who was our talisman, was delegated into being a glorified donkey to service Ronaldo. The point of bringing up Foden is to show you how he isn't being made to being a servant for Haaland, they both work in tandem together and Haaland takes great joy out of seeing his team mates score and you can't say that about Ronaldo who only last weekend looked pissed off after seeing martial come off the bench and score.
But some of you feel so threatened by Haaland, that you are saying he has no right to be put in the same conversation alongside Ronaldo in terms of potentially surpassing his accomplishments. I've followed haaland since his days at Molde and know and understand his potential unlimited. Just because he now plays for City, I'm not going to put blockers out all threads about him on my web browser that cover him or avoid discussions, just because I'm terrified he might surpass Ronaldo
Barcelona have always played for Messi and I don't see anyone saying that Haaland is better for that. His argument makes no sense
I dont feel threatened by Haaland, he's a great player but I wont salivate over a City player on United forum. Nor did I say he has no right to be in the same conversation with Ronaldo. If I said that please quote me.
You wont put the blockers on your web browser but you're going to complete opposite stance, glorify him at every opportunity it seems all the while taking a pop on one of United's greats. It must be tricky for you now, your favorite players plays for a rival club.
So he thrived and managed all those goals cause he always had servants and donkeys to do the hard work for him?
Also another point you're freshly bringing up.
The joy of seeing teammates score... Do we need to take this into equation too? Whats the next thing, how long are their socks pulled when scoring?
Another prove that being a footballer doesn't mean their football opinion should be respected.
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