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- Assists
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Messi made a much smarter move as well. Go to a dominant state funded team and easier league not a struggling old superpower lurching around the EL places.
Ronaldo actually played ok today bar his finishing but not teeing up Martial near the end there is just typical of him.
Yup, despite the media rubbish this does seem to be the case. Loads of players celebrate with him every time he scores. Some will try and twist this of course and claim its only as the players are terrified of upsetting him.
Good post all-round too, nice to see a balanced opinion here!
I don't think it's heresy to say he had a decent game. He didn't play poorly he could have easily scored when the defender made a goal line clearance and he got an assist. But in the context of who we played it's clear he's finished at top level. A better team would have easily nullified him and you are correct he shouldn't be shoehorned in the team ahead of martial and when he plays it becomes the ronaldo feed him show
Rashford did a really poor job of it though.
Maybe? On that chance where he hit the pass into the post I think Dalot probably tries to shoot if it's anyone other than Ronaldo there. What's troubling is that players are passing up better options to give the ball to Ronaldo and he's not finishing, and it has been happening in these Europa League matches when we're tied or don't have a comfortable lead. I think some of the players, particularly Dalot and Bruno, feel pressure to give the ball to Ronaldo not necessarily because Ronaldo is demanding it personally, but because of his reputation and the respect they have for him.
Good post, and I don't disagree on Dalot and Bruno, but that's on them to make the right decisions. I disagree that we've always been trying to feed Ronaldo in previous games though, think that's become very overblown due to his 2 compatriots being guilty of this. Its not a team-wide thing (tonight being an exception).
I remember a few occasions last year when some of the team were trying to spoonfeed Martial when he was at his lowest ebb. Not saying that's the right thing to do, but it's not unique to Ronaldo.
Stats and stats websites are a blight on football and analysis. He was not good today.
It's not just that he missed those massive chances. It's also that he mis-controlled or avoided the ball in multiple situations where the correct touch would have allowed a shot. Yes, he had some a few moments - he won the ball once, he had a (probably intentional) very good assist, and a nice turn and shot in the first half, which was his best moment of the season so far. But it was an overall bad performance.
Everyone here watched Rooney 2014-16, this should be familiar.
It's not just that he missed those massive chances. It's also that he mis-controlled or avoided the ball in multiple situations where the correct touch would have allowed a shot. Yes, he had some a few moments - he won the ball once, he had a (probably intentional) very good assist, and a nice turn and shot in the first half, which was his best moment of the season so far. But it was an overall bad performance.
Everyone here watched Rooney 2014-16, this should be familiar.
Yeah, he was very bad. His legs have gone. Loses all his physical battles, doesn’t have the balance you need as a striker and his finishing was gash.
The one and only bit of credit he deserves is that he tries hard. We all know he won’t press much but he does put a shift in, off the ball, in attack. Not that it matters, mind you. He’s completely past it as a top class footballer. Should bugger of to the MLS and pad his stats before he gets so bad he’ll flounder there too.
His fitness is ok. It's just his finishing gone overnight. It's like watching Torres with Chelsea.
But but but he assisted Rashford
It was definitely a better overall game from him as his build up play was decent and it was just his finishing that let him down. It's foolish to write a player like him off altogether, we know he's not what he was but one goal could change all that.
He's so stiff he can't get his body into position or the right balance to shoot, it's sad to see. Felt like me when I had an injury that stopped my lateral movement. Sad to see.
I'm still undecided whether he's truly finished or if he's merely another victim of the United "curse". Her certainly looked a shadow tonight, but even Haaland might struggle in this team IMHO.
He's done. No shame in being done at 37/38.
Which was a shot
Strange performance. Seemed to be at the heart of everything, but to no good effect. Finishing totally deserting him which was the one thing we could hang our hat on with the Ronaldo of last season. Yes he was falling over, getting outran, looking a fraction of what he was physically, but he still bloody finished some chances.
I suppose it's better than being totally anonymous.
I suppose it's better than being totally anonymous.
I disagree, he got plenty of service throughout the match. It's not a coincidence that Rashford and Martial each scored so quickly. They were up against weak defenders and the opportunities were there, he just didn't finish his.
He isn't controlling the ball and taking a step quickly enough to get shots off. He isn't accelerating quickly enough to get past defenders or onto a pass. The margin for these things is pretty slim at the top level, and if he's taking a 10th of a second longer to control the ball and another 10th of a second longer to kick it that's enough for defenders to break up a lot more of his chances. Something like that could explain how a player could go from scoring 20-30 goals one year and only managing 5-10 the next.
Missing the pre-season was a disaster move on his part. At his age, body takes a long time to adapt. He’d have a couple of goals today if he was at peak condition, which he isn’t.
What to say? He finally got an assist by shooting wide. Maybe it’s worth to mentioning Rashford’s movement for that goal?
When the media kept writing about Ronalod return to United in every fecking transfer window this was not what I had in mind. And to think I got so excited everytime it happened. Im scammed.
Well TH can now rightly drop him, with no one on his back saying he is being disrespectful. He has declined and now trying to score from anywhere, even when there is a pass on to someone in a much beter position.
Nah... wait till he gets a pre-season in and plays at a lower league like Saudi. He'll be scoring Haaland-like numbers there. Then the Caf will be pissed off at Murtough for not offering him that optional year extension.
That's the Caf.
Probably [YAWN}
Without Ronaldo we probably properly smash these lots.
We'll always have the memories.
Didn't think he was awful yesterday, got in good positions, the run through the defence near then end, cut back and shot wide was very good till the finish, miss hit one but did create the assist, another day he'd have had a couple of goals there and the narrative would be far different.
My main issue with him yesterday was his obvious tantrum at the end, showed again that for him it's all about himself and his records, not the team, it's Man Utd, fairly big club, he should be showing bit more respect.
My main issue with him yesterday was his obvious tantrum at the end, showed again that for him it's all about himself and his records, not the team, it's Man Utd, fairly big club, he should be showing bit more respect.
Ironic really but his work rate, team play and effort have been really positive yet his finishing has been poor. Not what I would associate with Ronaldo..
I thought he played well.
Watching copium drinkers is always entertaining my friend.
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Everybody has an off day in them, but I fear you are absolutely right.
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Did anyone think he would score - or even hit the target - when he took that free kick in the first half?
My son and I had a bet on smashing it miles over vs smashing it into the wall. I won.
Did anyone think he would score - or even hit the target - when he took that free kick in the first half?
My son and I had a bet on smashing it miles over vs smashing it into the wall. I won.
If we put a different spin on it, and the spin that it should be. We shouldn't be catering to him at all the way we have been. The reason we signed him so that he can push us up to a higher level with his goals, athletic ability, leadership, and mentality. That has not been done. We didnt sign him so that Ronaldo can break records for Ronaldo and we could help him do that, no.
That's been the standard assumption (row Z) throughout his career, he never was a Beckham.
He’s always been fairly dreadful at free kicks, but it really gets worse when there’s two decent takers that he’s pushing away to give it the big I am
Ronaldo is way past his best clearly, and is nowhere near the level he used to be. However, if we're being honest it was his off the ball running and workrate that pretty much created the opportunity for at least 2 of the 3 goals last night
I agree. If he accepted he's no longer Billy big goals and was more selfless, a la Kane/Sheringham, he can still contribute to the cause.
Very frustrating night for him but you can't fault his effort , he kept at it all night and made many runs but it was just not going to be his night.
He can't complain when he does not get a start Sunday night and was lucky to last the full game last night.
But I would not write him off yet.
He can't complain when he does not get a start Sunday night and was lucky to last the full game last night.
But I would not write him off yet.
Confident he will hit form again. Almost impossible to go from last seasons level to ‘finished’/‘dusted’ etc but this is the social media age.
Last night he was taking one too many touches, possibly overthinking it. Happens to strikers when in poor form.
Last night he was taking one too many touches, possibly overthinking it. Happens to strikers when in poor form.
Wait, wasn’t Messi supposed to be finished last year? What happened?
He got better instead of worse.
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