Nicoseth
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TBF doesn't sound like you think he's great.I think he's great actually. I just can't stand his lickarses who hated Ole
TBF doesn't sound like you think he's great.I think he's great actually. I just can't stand his lickarses who hated Ole
Looking at results when judging a players performance is often a bad way to evaluate footballers though, especially attackers. In many of our best results he still managed to hinder attacking play to the point where we'd take him off and immediately look more dangerous. The pressing bit that people love to talk about is laughable too, as if we are some machine at winning the ball high up the pitch (we are bang average, which is better than previous years but not elite in the slightest). If that's all a striker brings to a side, and is a genuine 0/10 going forward then he's a useless player overall.Have we? He’s been part of the team that was being praised 3-4 games ago as being a dark horse for the title. It’s all fallen apart a bit but many of us were worried about the number of games catching up with us.
I’d prefer to see Rashford central and Garnacho on the left but Garnacho isn’t fit.
Martial is barely available. Sancho can’t seem to play well other than 1 game in 10.
Our depth is really hurting us now.
It is tough for you. Failed Cardiff manager can't get a decent job so you are stuck with United.More wonderful coaching leading us to great progressive football.
I don't get these comparisons. The main difference is that even while bad under Ten Hag, the overall feeling around the team that we're just starting and this is the beginning of the cycle. We might not be doing brilliantly in the league but it's his first season, won a cup after 5 years drought and a lot of things have improved regarding playstyle and results. The feeling around the team is we're under the right track and there's a room for improvement. Last season it was the opposite, the feeling was that we're going to get far worse rather than better. Last season felt like it's truly the end of United as a top club if anything. Things are completely different now.We are 3pts better off than under Rangnick and we've been whacked 6 and 7 at the home of our two biggest rivals.
ETH is a good coach but he's not immune to criticism. He's starting to get big calls wrong an awful lot and none more so than Weghorst experiment.
I still have faith he will get it right and turn us into a quality team but he's starting to get on my nerves a bit I can't lie. Those subs today too were stupidity. Varane and Martinez were playing well. What was the point?
It is tough for you. Failed Cardiff manager can't get a decent job so you are stuck with United.
Be patient. Soon, some club from Norway will hire him. Any second now...
TBF doesn't sound like you think he's great.
Very goodYou think he's great?
You're just a relentless Ole fanatic who offers nothing in the way of discourse. Why was it ok for you and your ilk to lick the arse of Ole? ETH has shown progress, and if you can't see it, maybe football isn't your thing. You're in here getting upset, because eh Ole? Very odd.
Because Ole is a club legend. It's weirder when people act like top reds and pretend otherwise. Gee, why do United fans give Ole more leeway than other managers? Real headscratcher, that one!You think he's great?
You're just a relentless Ole fanatic who offers nothing in the way of discourse. Why was it ok for you and your ilk to lick the arse of Ole? ETH has shown progress, and if you can't see it, maybe football isn't your thing. You're in here getting upset, because eh Ole? Very odd.
Casemiro is Ten Hag's purchase, and the lack of any other good midfielders in the team is the fault of your favorite manager spending +400m in 3 years and not even bothering to buy a single midfielder throughout all this time except VDB who was frozen immediately after.Very good
I rooted for Ole when he was our manager, sue me.
I'm rooting for Ten Hag too, but I'm not gonna go on like we're doing great when we're a Casemiro suspension away from being every bit as bad as anything Ole served up.
Football is fickle. I think he deserves criticism for today but we will look much better with our midfielders back.I know a lot of people are complaining but come on. Typical redcafe meltdown. People getting concerned....really?
Two of our three midfields are out who are a cut above the rest.
We have no striker.
Our players are quiet obviously gassed.
I can't wait for the season to end in a way, we have been too successful for our own good becausw don't have the secondary squad to see i through. EtH hasn't got bad overnight, come on guys.
Was also powerless to stop the dressing room from fracturing, which made ETH’s job that much harder and the players seem to be reverting back to that a bit.It is tough for you. Failed Cardiff manager can't get a decent job so you are stuck with United.
Be patient. Soon, some club from Norway will hire him. Any second now...
Another Ole acolyte. You deserve to go before the Arse fans on here.More wonderful coaching leading us to great progressive football.
Precisely. I don’t understand why some fans have to defend players or managers fanatically. It’s very clear ETH has made quite a bit progress with the club and we’ll give him credit and time for that, but he has also made a lot of wrong calls lately. Which meant we’ve been on the receiving end up of drubbings away from home and we’re running out of steam at thewrong time in the season.We are 3pts better off than under Rangnick and we've been whacked 6 and 7 at the home of our two biggest rivals.
ETH is a good coach but he's not immune to criticism. He's starting to get big calls wrong an awful lot and none more so than Weghorst experiment.
I still have faith he will get it right and turn us into a quality team but he's starting to get on my nerves a bit I can't lie. Those subs today too were stupidity. Varane and Martinez were playing well. What was the point?
Exactly. People overlooked the fact that he blatantly wasn't good enough, because, club legend. fecking ridiculous the posters who couldn't separate Ole the player, and Ole the manager.Because Ole is a club legend. It's weirder when people act like top reds and pretend otherwise. Gee, why do United fans give Ole more leeway than other managers? Real headscratcher, that one!
You are in your feck 'rooting for ETH'. You're just wumming in here about Ole anytime we have a bad result. Everyone can see it.Very good
I rooted for Ole when he was our manager, sue me.
I'm rooting for Ten Hag too, but I'm not gonna go on like we're doing great when we're a Casemiro suspension away from being every bit as bad as anything Ole served up.
Embarrassing today. Truly embarrassingYou are in your feck 'rooting for ETH'. You're just wumming in here about Ole anytime we have a bad result. Everyone can see it.
Yes, let’s maintain some perspective on this. Points don’t tell the whole story.You can give stats without context and it really does skew reality. Yes, we're only 3 points better off, but overall the football has been much better (with obvious exceptions). We have also won a trophy, are in the semi final of the FA Cup and QF of the Europa league. The progress is clear, those saying otherwise are blinded by their agendas.
Couldn't agree more. Your posts in here today - and in general - are really fecking embarrassing.Embarrassing today. Truly embarrassing
Absolutely.You can give stats without context and it really does skew reality. Yes, we're only 3 points better off, but overall the football has been much better (with obvious exceptions). We have also won a trophy, are in the semi final of the FA Cup and QF of the Europa league. The progress is clear, those saying otherwise are blinded by their agendas.
Well said. As I said ETH has become a victim of his own mini-success.Absolutely.
Not to mention, ETH started only 4 of his signings today. Two were emergency loan deals in January. He has to make do with plenty who are/never have been good enough.
The majority on here expected us to finish outside the top four, and any sane person, could see that it would be an erratic transitional season. But, agendas gonna agenda.
Tea lady as a manager couldn't match failed Cardiff manager in terms of failure in United. So unless ETH doesn't relegate us, any comparison with FCM is out of order.Very good
I rooted for Ole when he was our manager, sue me.
I'm rooting for Ten Hag too, but I'm not gonna go on like we're doing great when we're a Casemiro suspension away from being every bit as bad as anything Ole served up.
The desire to want him to succeed given his history made loads of us give him way more time than he should have had. If he left after the end of his first season where he was caretaker, or even after the EL final, that would have been for the best.Exactly. People overlooked the fact that he blatantly wasn't good enough, because, club legend. fecking ridiculous the posters who couldn't separate Ole the player, and Ole the manager.
I wish he had of just left after his interim period. We all would have thanked him and wished him well. He also would have probably gotten another job off the back of that spell pretty quickly.The desire to want him to succeed given his history made loads of us give him way more time than he should have had. If he left after the end of his first season where he was caretaker, or even after the EL final, that would have been for the best.
Although if I were OGS and United come knocking with a multi year contract worth millions, there is no way I'm saying no to that.
They had Longstaff in CM. Two very ordinary CBs. Murphy in their attack etc. Players who have had very ordinary careers up to this point. They are a very oridnary team bar 3 or 4 players.can’t really do much with this shite team. Need to judge him when we’ve got a proper striker and a quality midfield. The squad is so poor without Casemiro and lacks quality without eriksen. I don’t think guardiola would win games with mctominay and weghorst in his team. Plus we’re playing more games than anyone els as we’re deep in all competitions.
Rashford plays better off of the left and Martial has been injured.The way he is persisting with Weghorst not only to the absolute detriment to our play and results; but shifting our 2 best players out of position to try and accommodate him is completely
I don't know about agendas but I've dared to suggest we're not as far along as some suggest and been called an Ole lover.Absolutely.
Not to mention, ETH started only 4 of his signings today. Two were emergency loan deals in January. He has to make do with plenty who are/never have been good enough.
The majority on here expected us to finish outside the top four, and any sane person, could see that it would be an erratic transitional season. But, agendas gonna agenda.
I would expect nothing less from Mr Gestapo. A thread ban for calling that performance today woefulCouldn't agree more. Your posts in here today - and in general - are really fecking embarrassing.
The likes of you should honestly be thread banned.
I love how this so nonchalantly ignores the main thing Ole couldn’t do in those finals that EtH did in his very first one: win."Yeah but finals and semi finals"
We got to finals and semi finals under Ole.
I'm all for ETH, he needs two to three years, but way more is needed before we start talking about transformations or him being a success.
So if De Gea makes one penalty save in that Europa League shoot out you'd have a different opinion of Ole the manager?I love how this so nonchalantly ignores the main thing Ole couldn’t do in those finals that EtH did in his very first one: win.
You're just a fecking wum mate.I would expect nothing less from Mr Gestapo. A thread ban for calling that performance today woeful