crossy1686
career ending
A new contract, whatever the terms, would be a mistake at this point
Just like it would have been with pogba who thankfully was greedy which trumped the United ineptitude of offering him oneA new contract, whatever the terms, would be a mistake at this point
It was tolerable to keep him as long his shot stopping was still good however now that he's been collecting howlers, time to put him out of his miseryI honestly think we have a great chance to let him walk (like we saw a few last season do)
GK should be number two priority
We've been saying it for months mate. He kicks the ball long, doesn't clear his own half, the oppo win the ball and break while we're all up the pitch, he then makes a good save from close range from the situation he just created and everyone says "where would we be without him!?". Not in fecking constant trouble for oneI’ve posted we should close these accounts for a bit but another glass of wine later and I’m all for keeping them open and I was shocked about how many times he gave the ball away
Do that to a high pressing city team who won every ball from his kick and I’m just glad it was 1-2
Just imagine Pogba on a new contract with his off the field issues and fitness problems.Just like it would have been with pogba who thankfully was greedy which trumped the United ineptitude of offering him one
I hope someone like Sevilla gazump us at this point and offer him first team football and £150k a weekJust like it would have been with pogba who thankfully was greedy which trumped the United ineptitude of offering him one
Can't remember if it was this forum but I said we made a huge mistake last time round with the contract offer and the wages.It was tolerable to keep him as long his shot stopping was still good however now that he's been collecting howlers, time to put him out of his misery
I honestly struggle to see any team in the world offering him anything like that unfortunately. Even boehly wouldn'tI hope someone like Sevilla gazump us at this point and offer him first team football and £150k a week
I'll let you celebrate tonight, maybe tomorrowI'll accept your apology whenever you're ready to give it
I'm only joking mate, I knew he had it in him so I had an unfair advantageI'll let you celebrate tonight, maybe tomorrow
Sevillad has unfortunately for us, a much better keeper.I hope someone like Sevilla gazump us at this point and offer him first team football and £150k a week
It was at the end of the 18/19 season. He'd spent the previous 12 months having a terrible World Cup then was average for most of the season before absolutely shitting the bed in the final two months where he was the main reason we missed out on the top four. We then proceeded to make him the highest paid goalkeeper in the history of the sport (by a long way).Can't remember if it was this forum but I said we made a huge mistake last time round with the contract offer and the wages.
It was compounded when even Jose who was no longer out manager said it was a stupid move to Pay that.
This was something like 2018 after either a horrid season or world cup or run of form. Five years later and he's gotten worse in every aspect (tbf he's always been weak in a few things)
That's not what the xG suggests.According to xG, Gundogan's shots had respectively 2% and 5% chance of finding the back of the net. #world-class shot-stopper
To be fair to him, the first shot was great. We failed to win two headers and let the ball bounce before the strike, but he could have at least made an attempt to save it. The second one is all him, he saves it and it still ends up in the back of the net.According to xG, Gundogan's shots had respectively 2% and 5% chance of finding the back of the net. #world-class shot-stopper
Baffling decision like the Rooney contract when Moyes took over.It was at the end of the 18/19 season. He'd spent the previous 12 months having a terrible World Cup then was average for most of the season before absolutely shitting the bed in the final two months where he was the main reason we missed out on the top four. We then proceeded to make him the highest paid goalkeeper in the history of the sport (by a long way).
Ehh that should tell you more about the shortcomings of xG as a stat than anything else.According to xG, Gundogan's shots had respectively 2% and 5% chance of finding the back of the net. #world-class shot-stopper
It's still a shot outside the box. It didn't graze the bar, it didn't touch the post either. The arch of the ball indicates that it wasn't particularly powerful, too. It was a good effort, that much is granted. Nevertheless, it doesn't justify being rooted to the ground.To be fair to him, the first shot was great. We failed to win two headers and let the ball bounce before the strike, but he could have at least made an attempt to save it. The second one is all him, he saves it and it still ends up in the back of the net.
No, it was savable. If you make an effort that is. If you keep watching it and wishing it to go out, not much will happen.Ehh that should tell you more about the shortcomings of xG as a stat than anything else.
It was from the xg Philosophy tweets.That's not what the xG suggests.
I'm not sure he could have saved the first but not reacting is a sure way to make it a certain goalCould have saved the first, should have saved the second. Continually played the ball to City and invited pressure.
A bright spot was not playing one of his hospital passes to the edge of our own box.
The op is saying you don’t understand xG since its not telling you how hard/easy it is for the keeper to saveIt was from the xg Philosophy tweets.
I'm surprised a lot of people think the first shot was difficult to save. De Gea is the one who made it look difficult by not moving at all. It is something he has done repeatedly over the years for those surprising shots.It's still a shot outside the box. It didn't graze the bar, it didn't touch the post either. The arch of the ball indicates that it wasn't particularly powerful, too. It was a good effort, that much is granted. Nevertheless, it doesn't justify being rooted to the ground.
I know.It was from the xg Philosophy tweets.
I understand how xG works. And i already mentioned that it was a great effort by Gundogan. We are discussing how difficult it was in this thread. Was it entirely his fault? No, but saying that a shot outside the box, not too powerful, nice placement/but within reach for a keeper, is impossible to save is stretching it. I would say that, for some strange reason, it happened a lot during the game. He looked too afraid to move from his spot.The op is saying you don’t understand xG since its not telling you how hard/easy it is for the keeper to save
He made it look more world-class than it actually was. And i agree, he saved far more difficult shots throughout his career here.I'm surprised a lot of people think the first shot was difficult to save. De Gea is the one who made it look difficult by not moving at all. It is something he has done repeatedly over the years for those surprising shots.
You referenced 2% xG which bears zero relevance is the point.I understand how xG works. And i already mentioned that it was a great effort by Gundogan. We are discussing how difficult it was in this thread. Was it entirely his fault? No, but saying that a shot outside the box, not too powerful, nice placement/but within reach for a keeper, is impossible to save is stretching it. I would say that, for some strange reason, it happened a lot during the game. He looked too afraid to move from his spot.
It has relevance. Some of these shots that don't go in are saved by keepers. And for someone who's a great shot-stopper, you'd expect to at least make an effort to save it. There was a similar discussion when the scousers scored 7/7 at Anfield. De Gea wasn't the only culprit for any of them, but, damn, fecking save one. That's what you're there for.You referenced 2% xG which bears zero relevance is the point.
A shot of 2% xG can be unstoppable. Which means the xG percentage bears zero relevance to if its saveable or not.It has relevance. Some of these shots that don't go in are saved by keepers. And for someone who's a great shot-stopper, you'd expect to at least make an effort to save it. There was a similar discussion when the scousers scored 7/7 at Anfield. De Gea wasn't the only culprit for any of them, but, damn, fecking save one. That's what you're there for.
The club is too sentimental and never wants to make strong calls. Just cause a player has been part of the furniture for so long doesn’t mean they have to be rewarded with a huge contract, it’s so crazy. When Pep went to City they didn’t immediately go and give Joe Hart a five year contract and double his salary just because he’d played 200 games for them. He didn’t fit the vision and was moved on. We seem to reward players with new contracts just for turning up at Carrington five days a week.Baffling decision like the Rooney contract when Moyes took over.
It can be unstoppable, but this one wasn't. Hence, my post. Feel free to disagree. I should have mentioned it in my initial post instead of adding it to my reply to another poster.A shot of 2% xG can be unstoppable. Which means the xG percentage bears zero relevance to if its saveable or not.
That does not mean that he shouldn’t have saved it. Just that your reference to xG in the post was missplaced