First PL game I've enjoyed this season. Hopefully he's turning things around but I'm not getting my hopes up until after Liverpool, West Ham and Villa.
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Agreed with this, I really enjoyed the 1st half but the first half hour of the 2nd half was the most polished display of the season.
I'm still not convinced that the system we employ will work regularly but we were bloody fun to watch today which was really enjoyable and the manager deserves credit tonight for the team he picked and the way they played.
Will he keep Rashford on the bench on Saturday though? That's the question...
Spot on tonight. Well done, Erik! That team was playing for him there. So enjoyable to see every player running so much. A real shift from everyone in the team.
Definitely. We actually looked like we had a game plan and set out to methodically break them down and eventually got the reward.
Also, the HT change was good too. Impacted the game in a good way Reguilon coming on.
Agreed! So nice to enjoy watching us play like that. That’s the benchmark now.
Playing the players who can actually be arsed worked out pretty well.
It's never too late to turn it around, managers aren't players where they either have the ability or not (for the most part). It's about can they identify what the right tactics are, can they implement them.. so far he hasn't shown it, but today was a good performance for the first time in ages, but still had its weaknesses defensively. My bigger concerns have been being clueless in possession though so whenever we don't show that, I'm much happier.
What I do want to see, and the actual things that will win me back over and what is needed, is playing well against actual good teams. Chelsea are shit, let's be real. We need to show we aren't just being swatted aside in big away games, and we haven't done that in 18 months. Liverpool is the next big one, then west Ham. A good performance is absolutely vital, otherwise the odd good home game is worthless in the bigger picture.
Don't even care about Bayern and Bournemouth. We SHOULD be working like mad vs Bayern to have a chance, that shouldn't need extra motivation. Bournemouth we SHOULD be dominating. Anything other than an extreme effort performance vs Bayern and a dominant win vs Bournemouth is a failure, but it's the actual footballing performances in the week of Liverpool, West Ham and Villa which concerns me more.
What I do want to see, and the actual things that will win me back over and what is needed, is playing well against actual good teams. Chelsea are shit, let's be real. We need to show we aren't just being swatted aside in big away games, and we haven't done that in 18 months. Liverpool is the next big one, then west Ham. A good performance is absolutely vital, otherwise the odd good home game is worthless in the bigger picture.
Don't even care about Bayern and Bournemouth. We SHOULD be working like mad vs Bayern to have a chance, that shouldn't need extra motivation. Bournemouth we SHOULD be dominating. Anything other than an extreme effort performance vs Bayern and a dominant win vs Bournemouth is a failure, but it's the actual footballing performances in the week of Liverpool, West Ham and Villa which concerns me more.
..are we not? 6 wins in 8 league games while having the manager and player of the month?
you run on here telling us how easily we should beat lower sides after wins bringing everything down while ignoring the constant, many examples every week of these same teams putting it right up our top 4 rivals
You’re on dubious grounds calling out others for not enjoying wins
Apparently, his tactics aren't all that bad when you have 11 players on the field instead of 9.
He'd do himself a massive favour if he keeps starting those who work hard and show the right attitude, and permanently drop the lazy ones. That's the only way he'll have any chance of turning things around
I doubt. And he shouldn't. Because 3 days later we play Bayern where Rashford is suspended.
He's not suspended.
He needs to, you can’t drop anyone other than Lindelof after tonight. He should play the team we started the second half with.
Fair bloody play. All the right calls, right setup, was about a one sided a game as we've been on the better side of for a while.
Say what you want about his signings but they all love the hard yards.
Say what you want about his signings but they all love the hard yards.
Isn't red 3 games ban? Only one?
One game I believe
How the feck are we only 3 points behind city
By far and away the best performance of the season and possibly since the League Cup final. Hope he builds on that and has the guts to persist with the team, there will be pressure to reinstate Rashford into the team but it absolutely should not be done until he finds his form back.
He needs to keep playing the players that want to give it all in every game, we look like a completely different team when everyone is pulling in the same direction, regardless of whether we have our desired starting players on the pitch. He's given the stars more chances than they deserve, hopefully he sticks with this team going forward. I'd rather see Garnacho and co. miss some chances but work their arses off, there is a lot of potential there.
The reports of our demise have been greatly exaggerated.
But he has lost the dressing room… so how on earth did we dominate that game??
He absolutely should.
Rashford belongs on the bench until he changes his attitude.
He doesn't deserve to be on the pitch
Fair play he nailed it tonight. The tweaks at half time with Maguire and Amrabat to stop the transitions was really pleasing. Everybody looked up for it (shock horror when rashford and martial are out) correct subs made at the correct times. Delighted with that.
I’d like to know that too. Yet they’re getting all the praise in the world. It’s funny because listening to the radio in work this morning and pep was saying how confident he was of getting a 4th title in a row…
Whilst definitively stating after a win that the players are all behind the manager is any less ‘expert’?
Terms like ‘Most players are still willing to run for ETH and still want to play for him.’ will be used against you the next time we lose.
People have a really low opinion of players, them playing well tonight will be just as much to do with the vitriol they’ve received as being ‘willing to run for EtH’. People are reading far too much into each result.
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The trouble with tying a win to some spurious ‘it’s because they want to play for EtH’ is the second they lose then what? They don’t want to play for him?
That result tonight is just as much, if not more, about personal pride & beatable opposition as it is some salute to EtH. We won, be happy move on cause this team will play poorly again this season, that won’t mean they’re trying to get EtH the sack.
I have a good mood tonight and I don't want to ruin it by arguing with your tedious points. When we lose again we can have this argument.
Because City havent been good this season - they look worse than both Liverpool and Arsenal
I agree, if we had more depth I would even argue he shouldn’t even be on the bench. But it is what it is
Yeh MoM gives him that praise is a good sign. Hopefully we can build on this, can’t get over how good we were
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Good to hear.
I have been openly critical of him and I have voted for him to be sacked but I really like him as a bloke. I do really hope he can work it out.
He's lost a couple of chokers really.
Ye but we’ve been awful. I think the run of draws they’ve had hasn’t helped.
I feel great after watching that. Been a long time since I was so happy/content after a game.
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There’s 1 person who’s a big problem in the dressing room and it’s Marcus Rashford. He’s worked under all the managers since LVG and theirs been leaks and unhappiness among the squad. When he’s not in the starting 11 we play as a team and look far much better in attack.
Muppetiers James has been banging on about ETH intense training sessions for months
My thumb has been bitten to the stump