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Tories should put Andy Street in as next leader. Decent, hard working, moderate that gets stuff done.

People of W Midlands made a mistake voting on tribal party lines I feel
 

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True. He'd have won if he went independent.
which is precisely why party politics is dead. People vote tribally like football fans supporting their favourite team.

I believe all Mayoral candidates should run as independents. Based on their own merits, not by whatever party is "flavour of the month"
 

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which is precisely why party politics is dead. People vote tribally like football fans supporting their favourite team.

I believe all Mayoral candidates should run as independents. Based on their own merits, not by whatever party is "flavour of the month"
With the greatest of respect, you've spent the the past few pages crying your heart out like the most hard-core of hard-core Tories.

Also, I have to ask. Do you actually live in London?
 

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Then on top of that, he's turned London into a fecking cesspit. Lawlessness, knife crime, gang culture, divisions and lack of social cohesion, expensive transport.

it's hard to believe that he could have done a worse job. Yet gets a 3rd term
How is this specific to London?

Lawlessness, increasing crime rates, divisions in social cohesion and expensive transport…

…it’s almost as if the Party of government is a fan of reducing funding for public services like policing and the CPS, stoking up culture wars, and deregulating markets to increase profits for private enterprise.

But go ahead, keep screaming about how it’s Labour’s fault.
 

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Any of it really.
Theres only one guy, who could be considered senior, who'd blame Hamas for his local supermarket not having his favourite brand of crisps in stock. It is absolutely him.

Starmer and MPs who represent his party have been interviewed repeatedly by BBC and Sky this morning, has this racist source come up in a single one of those? They've lost interest already.
 

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Tories should put Andy Street in as next leader. Decent, hard working, moderate that gets stuff done.

People of W Midlands made a mistake voting on tribal party lines I feel
The West Midlands hasn't turned into shining beacon of moderate Tory policy over the past 7 years. Violent crime is through the roof, public transport is non-existent in certain areas, schooling and hospital standards are at an all time low. This idea that Andy Street has done a wonderful job is not one I can see where I'm living.
 

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Tories should put Andy Street in as next leader. Decent, hard working, moderate that gets stuff done.

People of W Midlands made a mistake voting on tribal party lines I feel
Cry more
 

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Then on top of that, he's turned London into a fecking cesspit. Lawlessness, knife crime, gang culture, divisions and lack of social cohesion, expensive transport.

it's hard to believe that he could have done a worse job. Yet gets a 3rd term
I'm guessing you don't live in London. And watch GB News.
 

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Ok. If I said, Khan has done a fantastic job in London. Has made transport cheaper, built lots of affordable housing and made the city safe from knife crime and burglars.

Then this would be better for you?
Someone who doesn't go to the extreme of every scenario and speaking rubbish on everything would be better.
 

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Personally for me, like I said, it’s a very secure process and enables a lot more people to vote.
Yes, I can see the help postal voting is to many people, for a variety of reasons; however providing DOB and signatures, remotely, in this day and age is in my opinion just not totally secure. Even if the DOB and signature are comparable with Council records, it still doesn't mean the vote has been cast by the officially identified person.
For absolute proof there is nothing like the seeing/checking the validity of voter in person who enters the voting booth to make their choice.

I suppose in reality even personal voting methods can be 'manipulated', but postal voting methods certainly can be, there is an imbalance in 'proof of authenticity' between the two and the fact that more and more people are choosing the postal method, is (for me at least :confused:)worrying.

I suppose that all the talk in recent years about potential foreign interference, via social media , bot's etc in our political system including voting pressures, if true means that eventually direct interference with the voting will be attempted. Perhaps not on a large scale of 'impostor voters', but say in marginal seats, and postal voting will be their way in.
 

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it's a stealth tax. They're ending the EV exemption on congestion charge in London. Why? Because it was never about cleaner air. It's a tax on people to make more money for the council.
ULEZ is about cleaner air. Congestion charge is about congestion and still has plenty of exemptions.
 

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Tories should put Andy Street in as next leader. Decent, hard working, moderate that gets stuff done.

People of W Midlands made a mistake voting on tribal party lines I feel
Ah yes, the good old all parties are shite when only one of them is a criminal cartel of bigots and thickos that's been destroying the country for a decade and a half. Gotta love that neutrality :drool:
 

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Skip to 32:49 for the LGBT section


Galloway is course full of shit and it gets shown up here. Doesn’t now think gay life is normal but has in the past voted for gay marriage and gay adoption.
 

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Just seen the Tory bitch gave the entirely irrelevant Braveman a feature slot on her show this morning. Why?
 

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I just wish they would grow a spine and call a general election so we can get the likes of Braverman out
 

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Tories should put Andy Street in as next leader. Decent, hard working, moderate that gets stuff done.

People of W Midlands made a mistake voting on tribal party lines I feel
Not sure about that. He's turned Birmingham into a fecking cesspit. Lawlessness, knife crime, gang culture, divisions and lack of social cohesion, expensive transport. it's hard to believe that he could have done a worse job.
 

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Then on top of that, he's turned London into a fecking cesspit. Lawlessness, knife crime, gang culture, divisions and lack of social cohesion, expensive transport.

it's hard to believe that he could have done a worse job. Yet gets a 3rd term
You think transport in London is expensive? It's cheaper and better than any other city in the UK. Manchester would love London's 'expensive' transport network.
 

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Just seen the Tory bitch gave the entirely irrelevant Braveman a feature slot on her show this morning. Why?
The same reason they keep giving that waste of afterbirth Farage air time, as well as the Reform clowns despite them boasting close to zero actual representation in office.

There's nothing more I want than the likes of Braverman and Rees-Mogg to have a Portillo moment as unlikely as it is, though it would be glorious seeing them humiliated and wither away into obscurity. Hopefully feckin off to the US to join the grifting circus there with Lettuce Liz and Frottage. Preferably taking that useless North Korean news anchor cosplay enthusiast Kuenssberg with them, I'm sure she'll have a cushy job ready for her at Fox or the Daily Wire.
 

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Just seen the Tory bitch gave the entirely irrelevant Braveman a feature slot on her show this morning. Why?
Given the gargantuan scale of Sunak's defeat I would have regarded it as extremely biased of the BBC if they had not given airtime to anti-Sunak Tories, and Braverman is the most prominent of those willing to come out in public.

If things stay as they are, however rare that is, general election night is going to be the first all-nighter for a while for me, watching the likes of Braverman lose their seats.
 

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Then on top of that, he's turned London into a fecking cesspit. Lawlessness, knife crime, gang culture, divisions and lack of social cohesion, expensive transport.

it's hard to believe that he could have done a worse job. Yet gets a 3rd term
Wibble
 

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Tories should put Andy Street in as next leader. Decent, hard working, moderate that gets stuff done.

People of W Midlands made a mistake voting on tribal party lines I feel
What's he got done exactly?

Then on top of that, he's turned London into a fecking cesspit. Lawlessness, knife crime, gang culture, divisions and lack of social cohesion, expensive transport.

it's hard to believe that he could have done a worse job. Yet gets a 3rd term
How has Andy Street done in the West Midlands on the same measures?
 

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What's wrong with this government? Are they fecking crazy? Iraq still struggling from consequences of the war they fecking raged 20 years ago.
 

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Don't see the problem with this, anyone in the politics appearing at football grounds automatically smacks of trying to be man/woman of the people. It's like Cameron supporting Aston Villa (or sometimes west ham when he's confused!) or Sunak saying he's a Southampton fan etc, it's all bollocks.
 

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And to think she was their political editor at one point...

Of course it's ok for Farage to pretend to be a "man of the people", necking pints that apparently only Labour politicians do. Or Sunak to pretend that he owns a prole car, and that he knows how contactless bank cards work. It's ok for Prime Ministers to run away and hide in a fecking fridge when they don't want to ask questions.

It's ok to lie to parliament, the Queen, and the electorate. It's ok to have wild parties when everyone else is in lockdown. It's ok to give your mates billions of pounds in taxpayer's money, and swan off to a cushy private consultation job with them after you've taken all you can from your MP role. It's ok to rip everything out of the country like copper wire in an old decrepit house. But drink a pint and wear a bomber jacket? You fecking bastard.
 

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She’s 100% winding down and preparing for her exit. I’m fascinated to see what her next role is and you can quote this post when everyone says something like “wow I didn’t think she would actually become communications director for the Conservative Party, that’s insane!” Or “what does a former Prime Minister need a fluffer for and why are the tax payer paying for it?”
 
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She’s 100% winding down and preparing for her exit. I’m fascinated to see what her next role is and you can quote this post when everyone says something like “wow I didn’t think she would actually become communications director for the Conservative Party, that’s insane!” Or “what does a former Prime Minister need a fluffer for and why are the tax payer paying for it?”
GB News?
 

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And to think she was their political editor at one point...

Of course it's ok for Farage to pretend to be a "man of the people", necking pints that apparently only Labour politicians do. Or Sunak to pretend that he owns a prole car, and that he knows how contactless bank cards work. It's ok for Prime Ministers to run away and hide in a fecking fridge when they don't want to ask questions.

It's ok to lie to parliament, the Queen, and the electorate. It's ok to have wild parties when everyone else is in lockdown. It's ok to give your mates billions of pounds in taxpayer's money, and swan off to a cushy private consultation job with them after you've taken all you can from your MP role. It's ok to rip everything out of the country like copper wire in an old decrepit house. But drink a pint and wear a bomber jacket? You fecking bastard.
I remember that and thought it was actually rather insane that a PM didn't know how to use a bank card. He's so disconnected from the normal people that things like filling in or paying for stuff are a fecking challenge for him.