True. Also why Aussies keep winning it and have "great" players.
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True. Also why Aussies keep winning it and have "great" players.
And that is something that is bound to fail sometime - hopefully it will be in the knock outs.
Paul Farbrace being a proper melt on The Debate. Answering every question with "we can handle pressure, we've been no. 1 for two years", "on another day Australia would be 30-4 and we win the game comfortably", "if Vince wasn't caught on his debut he would've gone on and made 150 and he would be a different player now".
No wonder England are buckling under pressure if this is the sort of dressing room mentality he has installed in the team. No one cares about ifs and buts, sunshine.
No wonder England are buckling under pressure if this is the sort of dressing room mentality he has installed in the team. No one cares about ifs and buts, sunshine.
They were comprehensively beaten today and choked against Sri Lanka. But gotta hand it to them, no.1 for x years trophy is 
.That is pure arrogance and one of the other reason England struggle in Major tournaments. I thought the loss against Pakistan would be a kick to their ass but they again looked complacent against Lanka and were convincingly beaten today.
He took wickets after the match was already over, it was Amir and Shadab who decided the match with the ball. Riaz came in and took wickets of tailenders when the match was out of he grasp of the South Africans. That being said, Riaz has bowled better than I expected and his figures would be better had he not had catches dropped off him against Aus and SA.@hasanejaz88 @Samid : Do you lot now see why Wahab Riaz was selected for this world cup? I saw replays of the game that day. Could you imagine trundler Junaid Khan bowling those death over deliveries
Junaid's place is still deserved, what was the point of taking Hasnain in the squad? We have an out of form Shaheen and Hasan but are still forced to play one of them because the management doesn't trust Hasnain for a pressure world cup game; why is he there then? I said that Junaid should be there because we don't have a backup opening bowler other than Shaheen and we're clearly suffering from an opening bowler to partner Amir. Shaheen, Hasan and Wahab all have not been able to back him up in the first 10 overs.
'Trundler' Junaid who took 8 wickets in 4 games the last time there was a tournament in England. Piss off mate.
Man, who cares about the WC anyway?England.
The anger because you don't understand strike fast bowlers
Junaid Khan is a trundler. I think the matches speak for themselves. Wahab Riaz was an obvious decision for anyone who understands even the very basics of fast bowling in English conditions. Almost every expert was for the decision as well. Cricket is more than stats. You'd do well if you understood how reverse swing works and how much batsmen struggle with it. If you want I can link some youtube vids on the basics of the game.
Not anymore.
The anger because you don't understand strike fast bowlers
Cricket is more than stats. You'd do well if you understood how reverse swing works and how much batsmen struggle with it. If you want I can link some youtube vids on the basics of the game.
Guys stop arguing over who is the 50th hottest girl at the prom, they are both ugly(shit)
Some England fans make some comments about their form in the last 4 years being important and to not forget it but some WUMs on here think we don’t care about the WC.
True, can't believe he's talking up Wahab
the guy leaks runs, hasn't he given away 100+ several times already?As for Junaid he showed promise when he first got into the team, but never kicked on, wasn't helped by bad man management either.
Haha I'm sorry but I'm not going to argue with a kid over who understands cricket moreThe anger because you don't understand strike fast bowlers
Cricket is more than stats. You'd do well if you understood how reverse swing works and how much batsmen struggle with it. If you want I can link some youtube vids on the basics of the game.
So far in this world cup:True, can't believe he's talking up Wahab
As for Junaid he showed promise when he first got into the team, but never kicked on, wasn't helped by bad man management either.
Economy of 11 against windies: no wickets
8.2 against england: 3 wickets
5.5 against Australia: 1 wicket
7.1 against india: 1 wicket
4.6 against south africa: 3 wickets
One good match, one decent and 3 horrible ones but let's brag.
So as always as soon as England get a decent cricket side we talk up our chances, get overconfident and then screw it up. Been the same my entire life.
Oh dearNot anymore.
Didn't know PNG has ODI status.Not anymore.
Okay then. Talk about people who buy into cricket stats way too much. Count a 100 run defense. Anyway, I'm not surprised at the reactions. It hurts when you have such a strong opinion against a player only for him to prove the amateurs wrong. Pakistani fans are a weird bunch. Bashing their only express reverse swing baller, their only batsman who scores 100's for not being "match winning" and forever cursing Akhtar when he was a player.
Please please don't ever mention akhtar when defending wahab, its like comparing ronaldo to lukaku.
Anyway, I'm not surprised at the reactions. It hurts when you have such a strong opinion against a player only for him to prove the amateurs wrong. Pakistani fans are a weird bunch. Bashing their only express reverse swing baller, their only batsman who scores 100's for not being "match winning" and forever cursing Akhtar when he was a player.
On form and balance Bangladesh are favourites against pak.
Agree.
It's just the principal. Not every player is a superstar but it's about appreciating what you have. Wahab is in the same mold of Akhtar though as a fast bowler who can swing it. He's a good 3-4 tiers below Akhtar of course.
Oh, the horror.Not anymore.
At least the WC has a little bit of excitement and reduced the number of dead rubbers.
Agree. Does feel like a bit of arrogance and complacency has seeped into the dressing room.
For me there are two big problems with this England team:
1. The opening partnership hasn't functioned at all. We've routinely managed 100+ partnerships for the first wicket in the last few years and we've only managed a couple in this tournament.
2. Morgan has been a bit exposed against high-class bowling. It's clear that a lot of other teams lack power hitters in the middle order (as Australia showed today) but we're at the other extreme: we've got blasters all the way down and perhaps we need someone with a slightly better technique at number 4. Vic Marks was talking about promoting Stokes to that position and that might be something they consider after the World Cup.
Ultimately we've been lured into a false sense of security by playing weak teams over the past couple of years. We played Australia without Starc and Cummins last year and we played Pakistan without Amir earlier this summer. That seems to have given us the misguided idea that we can just blast anyone off the park.
I think he's a great captain but not sure about his place in the side as a batsman. If we moved Stokes and Buttler up a place, would he be worth his place at six? He doesn't bowl and isn't a stand-out fielder.
The similarities will end tomorrow. NZ have the momentum and are anyway the far better team.
I hope so..
Says the guy who called someone who has the same amount of wickets as Wahab in less matches a 'trundler'. I lost all respect for you when you said that. Your the exact type of fan you're criticizing in your post, criticizing with no constructive argument other than name calling. I never 'bashed' Wahab, I always said his international record is poor compared to his skill level because when he starts to get hit, he loses his line and length and goes for a lot of runs.
Anyway, I'm not surprised at the reactions. It hurts when you have such a strong opinion against a player only for him to prove the amateurs wrong. Pakistani fans are a weird bunch. Bashing their only express reverse swing baller, their only batsman who scores 100's for not being "match winning" and forever cursing Akhtar when he was a player.
England are way more likely to do a Pakistan 92 than Pakistan. They can lose both matches, still go through and do well in the knockouts.
If that Bangladesh Sri Lanka match wasn't a washout, SL could have been at 7 points or Bangladesh at 8 (more probable). If that was the case, England would have been in a lot more trouble, but right now if they can win one, they may just get through
Day 28: New Zealand vs Pakistan
11:30 start time
New Zealand batting first, not good.
Munro and Guptill has been quite useless for Kiwis so far.
That's 80 % of the match won for NZ. Pak couldn't chase a score to save their lives.
Ramiz Raja with the commentary classic 'if you wanna hit the ball straight, you're going to want to middle it'
Ya know, as opposed to all the times you don't want to middle the ball...
Ya know, as opposed to all the times you don't want to middle the ball...
Has NZ won all the tosses in the WC so far?
Yes, to have any chance, Pak will need to dismiss both within first 5-10 overs.