Maybe because you are a blind lukaku hater.I am going to stop, but this thread always ends up like this, no matter what..
Maybe because you are a blind lukaku hater.I am going to stop, but this thread always ends up like this, no matter what..
What are you talking about?Why are you another Lukaku fan boy and it hurts the notion that he's not as good as you think if he is comparative to Morata?
We are both doing direct comparison, you are the one that is being selective, selecting only the premier league - a competition in which Lukaku still have the far better record.I am doing a direct comparison.
You are being selective. Who cares about international football. Does Lukaku have Rooney or Owen as competition? Again stop trying to bend circumstance. Comparing PL record is the best direct comparison and as said marginally better. I mean, i bet you have never seen Bent play so the actual comparison in style has gone over your head
There's a reason Morata hasn't got the run of games at Chelsea...Its stating facts, if you actually saw him play and are just not going off stats. Lukaku and Bent are very similar. It's why when Bent moved up a level to Spurs he was not used as much as he was found out as a limited player for a topish... club. Same with Lukaku, hes not and will never be a top level player good enough to lead a top team.
He's very lucky he had Mou, as manager who stuck with him, even when he was performing terribly. If goals are the only thing to take into account, if United had signed Morata, and Mou stuck with him even when playing bad, iam pretty sure he would have as good as record as Lukaku has at United.
If you compare over the last two seasons Morata offers a goal every 177 minutes, compared to Lukakus 162 minutes, pretty sure that evens its self out a bit if Morata was given the run Lukaku had. Neither are top quality, but when people say its no comparison, eh, yeah it is, maybe not from subjective points of views...but stat wise it's closer then people probably thought
What are you talking about?
The only time stats such as minutes to goals are wheeled out is when your favourite is so far behind that it's the only way you can form an argument.
He scored two against Forest but he's so bad Chelsea actually choose to play without a striker.
He might get a few 10 minute cameos over the next month, score one and have his goals to minutes be at 3 in 130 minutes.
Yay Morata.
Sub strikers tend to have good goals to minutes ratios and that's what Morata has never started more than 16 league games in his entire career at 26 years old while Lukaku is closing in on 200 senior goals v Morata 69 despite being a younger man.
But hey..those goals to minutes ratios huh? I just seen that Pogba has 13 senior goals less than striker Morata and his main criticism is to get into the box and score more! And he's a midfielder
We are both doing direct comparison, you are the one that is being selective, selecting only the premier league - a competition in which Lukaku still have the far better record.
Lukaku is a much better footballer and much better goalscorer than Bent. Bent wouldn't have had many seasons in the Championship if he was anywhere near Lukaku's level. Lukaku is a very good EPL and international striker, Bent is a mediocre striker with a good EPL record. Bent was up against Rooney and Owen, but was also up against Defoe and Crouch - you can check the latter two's international record.
This is of course the Morata thread, so I will say no more. Apologies mods for derailing the thread!
Its funny how much it hurts you guys when reality kicks in that's he is comparable to Bent. Lukaku is simply not a very footballer, not as good as you lot think he is. You guys are really desperate defending him so much.There's a reason Morata hasn't got the run of games at Chelsea...
It's all subjective until you look at the evidence, but if you want you can ignore it and add in the imaginary goals Morata would 'probably' score given a few more games??
Spurs were not a 'topish' club back then, the odd foray into the top four/minor cup final does not a 'topish' club make and he was Spurs too goalscorer over the likes of Keane I believe for a season.
Nah, i am just not a fan boy. Yup, so blind i was saying months and months ago Rashford should be playing ahead of him, and look where we are now, there for everyone to see how much better the flow of the team is...Maybe because you are a blind lukaku hater.
Which is irrelevant to the point. Morata did not get any where nrar those 16 goals last season. He imstead crumbled under the pressure at Chelsea.Mourinho made him untouchable for no reason, even when he went 9 games without scoring and was horrible. He scored 16 goals in the league last season playing in almost every minute of every game, this is not an impressive record.
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Morata 17/18 EPL stats: 11 goals, 6 assists, 2065 minutesWhich is irrelevant to the point. Morata did not get any where nrar those 16 goals last season. He imstead crumbled under the pressure at Chelsea.
Also, all thus talk of those 16 goals being 'not impressive' is plain lame given no other United player got any where near.
If Martial wasn't unfairly treated and booted out of the team by that vile man to accommodate a washed up ex Arsenal star who was already in decline, he'd have bettered that Lukaku total; the same Lukaku who played in almost every single minute with full confidence and was in the form of his career playing for a manager who gave him a Messi's like statue and made him untouchable to score the mediocre total of 16 league goals that some fans are painted like it was an impressive, marvelous, extraordinary return for a striker we're buying 90M and giving 200M on wage.Which is irrelevant to the point. Morata did not get any where nrar those 16 goals last season. He imstead crumbled under the pressure at Chelsea.
Also, all thus talk of those 16 goals being 'not impressive' is plain lame given no other United player got any where near.
Yep. He's been a flop.@Raoul Fair to say you were totally wrong on this one? He's been a colossal failure at Chelsea.
Lukaku is far better. At least Lukaku wants to compete.I don't watch Chelsea but are they the reason he is so bad or is he just shite?
I mean, surely Conte and Sarri could be just the wrong fit for him.
Hilarious how different him and Lukaku are but how they similar levels of being shite. Funnily enough, each of their weaknesses are the others strength. If we could mix the two players, you'd have a cracking striker
Well luckily for you guys, you get to keep the far better Lukaku!Lukaku is far better. At least Lukaku wants to compete.
Diego Costa was injured for over 2 month and is just coming back (first game imo). Kalinic got sidelined and Atletico tried to sell him, but he didn't want to leave. griezmann is always going to start and it will be between Diego Costa and Morata to lead the lines. Occasionally Angel Correa played up top with griezmann. I suspect that he'll be down the pecking order for this role, because he was only a emergency option to begin with.Morata has been starting games for Athleti.
They have Diego Costa, griezman, kalinic and morata to occupy the two central forward positions.
How is it that Morata is starting? Any injury issues or has he shown good form?
I am surprised
Thanks!!! :-)Diego Costa was injured for over 2 month and is just coming back (first game imo). Kalinic got sidelined and Atletico tried to sell him, but he didn't want to leave. griezmann is always going to start and it will be between Diego Costa and Morata to lead the lines. Occasionally Angel Correa played up top with griezmann. I suspect that he'll be down the pecking order for this role, because he was only a emergency option to begin with.
Yep his movement and work rate was always good, but then regularly fluffed the chances. Once the crowd got wind of it and moaned after every chance he soon lost confidence and it’s vicious circle.Always thought he had good movement off the last defender as he's showed a few times for Atletico.
I just think he lost lots of confidenc at Chelsea, didn't he say he hated living in London or did I imagine that? If you look back to his very early Chelsea form the hat trick at Stoke and the winner v Man. United were all excellent runs and finishes.
At Chelsea at the end he seemed to be doing a great Torres impression.
Less pressure in home country surroundingsWonder why he is finding it a lot easy to score in La Liga
Well played.Another attempt off target.
Yeah he's played well so far.He's been pretty good at at atletico, right?
Change of scenery and playing in a side that use his strengths better. He's a better player than what he showed at Chelsea, he isn't world class though. Very good movement and a good finisher when confident but was a shell of a man the last few months at Chelsea.Wonder why he is finding it a lot easy to score in La Liga
There were a lot of comparisons with Chelsea's version of Torres while he was here but they were always inaccurate.Always thought he had good movement off the last defender as he's showed a few times for Atletico.
I just think he lost lots of confidenc at Chelsea, didn't he say he hated living in London or did I imagine that? If you look back to his very early Chelsea form the hat trick at Stoke and the winner v Man. United were all excellent runs and finishes.
At Chelsea at the end he seemed to be doing a great Torres impression.
Alice Campello is the best thing to happen to his life.Has almost everything but he's incredibly soft.
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