DomesticTadpole
Doom-monger obsessed with Herrera & the M.E.N.
I seem to remember everyone on here panicing about his rib when it happened.Forgot about that too. Good point!
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I seem to remember everyone on here panicing about his rib when it happened.Forgot about that too. Good point!
You won't get any arguments from me about that.I think Van Gaal may have missed a trick here, to be honest. Wanyama dumps his kegs when pressed. Is Mata really going to hound him and steal the ball? I'm not sure. I think Herrera at #10, marking Wanyama with Fellaini helping out physically, would have been a good tactic tonight.
Rooney aside, our attack is horribly laboured.
Hasn't Van Gaal said that this is the formation he wants to play? Obviously he's been unable to play it recently due to most of our central defenders being injured!Can't understand why the feck we revert to that 352 shit again. It's definitely not playing to our strengths.
Stop coming in here and throwing a grenade in the room.Right. I think one thing is abundantly clear. Van Gaal doesn't rate Herrera as highly as most people on the caf.
Has he said that?Hasn't Van Gaal said that this is the formation he wants to play? Obviously he's been unable to play it recently due to most of our central defenders being injured!
To be fair, there's been some sort of mass delusion in this thread for ages. That he was somehow just injured enough to make the bench but not to play. For two or three weeks in a row. Can we put that one to bed now?Stop coming in here and throwing a grenade in the room.
I thought he did, I might be wrong!Has he said that?
Right after LVG made the comments after the WBA game about needing more physicality in midfield and all.To be fair, there's been some sort of mass delusion in this thread for ages. That he was somehow just injured enough to make the bench but not to play. For two or three weeks in a row. Can we put that one to bed now?
I don't either. For me he doesn't have a specialist ability, goal threat, assister, ball winner, none really. Seems sloppy at times too. Hope he proves me wrong but puzzled how high the caf rates him.Right. I think one thing is abundantly clear. Van Gaal doesn't rate Herrera as highly as most people on the caf.
I said it in the match thread and I will say it here:Right. I think one thing is abundantly clear. Van Gaal doesn't rate Herrera as highly as most people on the caf.
I'd say that van Gaal thinks Herrera doesn't fit in currently. After all for van Gaal the team is more important the individual. He probably feels we need someone physical like Fellaini in the centre and he's not goind to drop Carrick or Blind entirely. Could all change with signing Strootman and moving to 4-3-3.Right. I think one thing is abundantly clear. Van Gaal doesn't rate Herrera as highly as most people on the caf.
A lot of people were saying that too!To be fair, there's been some sort of mass delusion in this thread for ages. That he was somehow just injured enough to make the bench but not to play. For two or three weeks in a row. Can we put that one to bed now?
Who said he "doesn't rate him"?I said it in the match thread and I will say it here:
6 Week lay off followed by 2 games in 4 days, the second game he was visibly fatigued and subbed off and you then expect Van Gaal to make it 3 games in 9 days?
Yeah, it's because he doesn't rate him despite his excellent contributions and is in no way related to trying to keep legs fresh leading into the Christmas period.
Remind me how many games Falcao has made the bench for but not been an option to start due to his fitness levels?To be fair, there's been some sort of mass delusion in this thread for ages. That he was somehow just injured enough to make the bench but not to play. For two or three weeks in a row. Can we put that one to bed now?
6 week layoff. Must be hard for him.I said it in the match thread and I will say it here:
6 Week lay off followed by 2 games in 4 days, the second game he was visibly fatigued and subbed off and you then expect Van Gaal to make it 3 games in 9 days?
Yeah, it's because he doesn't rate him despite his excellent contributions and is in no way related to trying to keep legs fresh leading into the Christmas period.
He's woefully out of shape. Different discussion though. Really hope Herrera is nowhere near as lacking in fitness as Falcao. Seriously doubt it.Remind me how many games Falcao has made the bench for but not been an option to start due to his fitness levels?
Yeah hes on now, better late than neverNo, he hasn't.
People are overreacting and overrating Herrera. He was average against Stoke, and poor in the first half. It's no surprise he is out because we want to be more solid defensively away from home. He'll be on at some point.
I'd say bringing him on after 40 minutes played is a fairly good indication of Van Gaal wanting him on the pitch.Not saying he's shit, by the way. Also don't think Van Gaal thinks he's shit. Just that he's obviously not in the "Hererra must start" camp.
And an excellent indication that your theory about him somehow not being fit enough to start this soon after the last game was a crock of shite.I'd say bringing him on after 40 minutes played is a fairly good indication of Van Gaal wanting him on the pitch.
Eh? There's a massive difference between playing half a game and playing a full game.And an excellent indication that your theory about him somehow not being fit enough to start this soon after the last game was a crock of shite.
Sad thing is, this is a fact. Mata shouldnt get in the team for a long time, as he doesnt offer half as much offensively as Herrera does.Did more in 6 minutes than Mata, Rooney and Fellaini combined in 45.
In general play I certainly agree. However Mata has found the net plenty so he still has some value. But he's so much slower to pass the ball around and less active than AnderSad thing is, this is a fact. Mata shouldnt get in the team for a long time, as he doesnt offer half as much offensively as Herrera does.
Yeah, and tbf that's also important as Mata brings us goals.In general play I certainly agree. However Mata has found the net plenty so he still has some value. But he's so much slower to pass the ball around and less active than Ander
Please please start him every fecking game!
Reading posts like this makes me think I watched a different game. And not for the first time.Needs to start the next match Definately.
Look at the time I posted it, wasn't based on today game clearlyReading posts like this makes me think I watched a different game. And not for the first time.
Oops. Apologies.Look at the time I posted it, wasn't based on today game clearly
Let's not polish a turd. He was crap tonight. If we're gonna start praising our players for faking injury we're really scraping the barrel.Herrera was one of the few players tonight willing to take the ball under pressure, turn look up and do something, anything! The quality of our football improved immensely after his introduction. Can't see why he doesn't start more. Loved the way he bought us time with a bit of gamesmanship and rolling around at the end. P'd Southampton off something fierce, which I'm glad about after all their dirty tackles.