[matherto]

As soon as he was off the pitch we lost the plot.

He was the only one capable of taking a touch under pressure and finding a man. Matic couldn't, Fellaini can't, don't even know what the feck Lingard was supposed to be today.

Don't see how people can have a go at Herrera really. One on one versus Mane going into your own box most of us would've done the same thing.

He wasn't our problem today, not by a long shot. He's one of the few that can hold their heads up even remotely off the floor.

 

[No11]

As soon as he was off the pitch we lost the plot.

He was the only one capable of taking a touch under pressure and finding a man. Matic couldn't, Fellaini can't, don't even know what the feck Lingard was supposed to be today.

Don't see how people can have a go at Herrera really. One on one versus Mane going into your own box most of us would've done the same thing.

He wasn't our problem today, not by a long shot. He's one of the few that can hold their heads up even remotely off the floor.

he did nothing, hands behind the back, square, headless chicken.

 

[Ekeke]

He won the ball 12 times, the team werent sent onto the pitch to play good passes and attack so I'm not sure why some people are expecting him to have done that. He was sent in as 1 of 2 extra CBs 3 or 4 yards in front of the 3 CBs. And he won the ball the most of those auxiliary CBs with Matic winning 10.

Still lots of work for the CBs though with Bailly, Lindelof, Darmian and Young all winning the ball more.

 

[el3mel]

Him and David are the only player that can leave with any sort of dignity today.

 

[montpelier]

I don't get the love for this guy - though all things are relative I suppose.

Did you see the 'defending' for the 2-1 goal?

Pathetic or non-existent? We could have a poll.

 

[Bestietom]

Not one midfielder good enough for Manchester United. Keane and Neville are 100% right. We need to invest BIG starting in January and follow up each transfer window until we catch up with the top 4/5.

We are just an ordinary Premiership side now. Richest club in the world and won't spend. Is this what they think of the fans who spend their well earned money year in year out to watch this shite. Not able to control or pass a ball properly.

 

[11101]

He was the only one in our midfield capable of any kind of control today. When he went off we fell to pieces.

 

[Devil may care]

Worked hard but he's a scrapper, needs a couple of passers in there with him, not two crab trees.

 

[Bestietom]

He was the only one in our midfield capable of any kind of control today. When he went off we fell to pieces.

Not good enough for Manchester United. IMO

 

[automaticflare]

He was at sea in first half

Once fellaini came on and he got some
Help he was better in second half

Matic was a no show

People pointing fingers at Herrera are misguided imo put him in a midfield with someOne else

 

[Devil81]

In truth he's about Everton standard of player, he's another who's not good enough to play for a top four club.

 

[Loublaze]

Him and David are the only player that can leave with any sort of dignity today.

He was ineffective. Offered nothing that impacted the game in any way. Massively overrated player. No wonder the team was set up to bypass midfield with hopeless long balls. Between Herrera and Matic we couldn't hold on to possession for more than 2-3 passes, even worse when that donkey Fellaini came on

 

[Classical Mechanic]

He has some qualities but his lack of vision is infuriating. He could have put Lingard through at one point but ended up holding onto it and passing back.

 

[el3mel]

He was ineffective. Offered nothing that impacted the game in any way. Massively overrated player. No wonder the team was set up to bypass midfield with hopeless long balls. Between Herrera and Matic we couldn't hold on to possession for more than 2-3 passes, even worse when that donkey Fellaini came on

He did the job he was asked for to do, and did it pretty well too. We didn't come to attack today. We came for a draw.

 

[Loublaze]

He did the job he was asked for to do, and did it pretty well too. We didn't come to attack today. We came for a draw.

And failed miserably at that. Even got subbed. Overrated mediocrity

 

[Janson]

People keep mistaking constantly running about with good play.

 

[Canagel]

Him and David are the only player that can leave with any sort of dignity today.

Eric, Eric..

 

[Janson]

And failed miserably at that. Even got subbed. Overrated mediocrity

Completely agree.

 

[el3mel]

And failed miserably at that. Even got subbed. Overrated mediocrity

And that was a wrong sub and concede after it happened. Matic was the biggest liability in our defensive set up. Herrera did well. No one is saying he's world class anyway.

 

[ivaldo]

he did nothing, hands behind the back, square, headless chicken.

Make your mind up. He was either a headless chicken or he did nothing.

He was beaten all ends up for the goal, but should he really be finding himself out there on his own? Where was the full back? There was 3 players in the box marking no one, why wasn’t one of them backing him up? Any player who gets iscolated by Mane is going to be in trouble. Other than that, he was a one man midfield today and still managed to turn over the ball an awful lot.

 

[Bwuk]

All heart and effort, but with him and Matic as the two deep midfielders we seriously lack vision.

 

[M16Red]

Make your mind up. He was either a headless chicken or he did nothing.

He was beaten all ends up for the goal, but should he really be finding himself out there on his own? Where was the full back? There was 3 players in the box marking no one, why wasn’t one of them backing him up? Any player who gets iscolated by Mane is going to be in trouble. Other than that, he was a one man midfield today and still managed to turn over the ball an awful lot.

This, was just about to say the same. Up against Mane on the edge of the area in the right back spot....so where was the RB or even the RCB. Was the only player actually trying to play something like football.

 

[Slaford RED]

Played well today!

You can never slag a player off, if they put a shift in like that. I think the negative tactics made our team look worse than they are.

 

[Backrow Singer]

He wasn’t the worst out there today by any stretch and there’s plenty worth of criticism before him. If I’m honest though, I find it slight scary and even more sad that I’m reading that a couple of people thought he had a good game today. If we seriously think that his performance today was good enough for this football club, I think that’s just about as alarming as anything else.

He tries hard bless him and he’s not a bad player but surely we need to raise our own standards as supporters.

 

[UnitedChampionsAgain]

Just about any player could look bad in this side so it's hard to judge the current ones. De Bruyne could struggle for us for god's sake! At least Herrera looks like he's trying to win.

 

[Sylar]

Dont see why we dont just use him where he won player of the season for us, as just a DM. He manages to cut out balls, win it back, and gets about the pitch. Why not just give him that and let him pass the ball off to others in front of him to be the creative outlet. Let him focus on that.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Dont see why we dont just use him where he won player of the season for us, as just a DM. He manages to cut out balls, win it back, and gets about the pitch. Why not just give him that and let him pass the ball off to others in front of him to be the creative outlet. Let him focus on that.

Because Jose decided to undermine him by buying Matic when elsewhere on the pitch needed focusing on more.

 

[El Zoido]

He wasn’t the worst out there today by any stretch and there’s plenty worth of criticism before him. If I’m honest though, I find it slight scary and even more sad that I’m reading that a couple of people thought he had a good game today. If we seriously think that his performance today was good enough for this football club, I think that’s just about as alarming as anything else.

He tries hard bless him and he’s not a bad player but surely we need to raise our own standards as supporters.

We’ve always had players that, on paper, aren’t particularly enthralling. John O’Shea, Wes Brown, to a lesser extent Darren Fletcher and Nicky Butt immediately come to mind. I know some might disagree with those names, but you’d have to say, they’re not players our rivals were envious of. But just like Ander, they were hard working and had a good understanding/reading of the game. You need these types of players in your squad.

 

[Sylar]

Because Jose decided to undermine him by buying Matic when elsewhere on the pitch needed focusing on more.

I had no issue with Matic being bought but then last season how much did we see Matic, Herrera and Pogba as a midfield three?

Even this season, we have a case of favourites over the obvious. It seems that the right team only falls into place through injuries and suspensions.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

I had no issue with Matic being bought but then last season how much did we see Matic, Herrera and Pogba as a midfield three?

Even this season, we have a case of favourites over the obvious. It seems that the right team only falls into place through injuries and suspensions.

He hits on the right team by accident or circumstances as you say. Then makes out he is a genius, when quite often there is nobody else to pick and it works. The lo and behold, instead of staying with that team, he bloody well changes it again.

 

[lsd]

Herrera is just so average he may as well not even be on the pitch . Running about the pitch is pointless when you then give the ball away so much .

It sums up all that is wrong at Utd when players like Herrera ,Matic , Darmians and Co get the games they do .

 

[AltiUn]

He hits on the right team by accident or circumstances as you say. Then makes out he is a genius, when quite often there is nobody else to pick and it works. The lo and behold, instead of staying with that team, he bloody well changes it again.

That's the most infuriating thing for me, every player we've put up front instead of Lukaku has outperformed him this season yet he continues to win his place back. Mourinho's favouritism will be his undoing. Playing Herrera alongside Pogba would make the most sense yet Matic is somehow un-dropable.

 

[Ekeke]

I don't get the love for this guy - though all things are relative I suppose.

Did you see the 'defending' for the 2-1 goal?

Pathetic or non-existent? We could have a poll.

Who wins every tackle they go in for?

Maybe you can tell me why he's doing the right back's job - oh because we didnt have a right back on the pitch tactically, so he's come over there because nobody else is taking responsibility to deal with Liverpool's left side.

Yes he got beaten outside the box. We had 6 outfield players and De Gea inside the box to deal with the ball as it comes across, they didnt. They werent quick to close down after Ander was beaten, they werent quick to react to the ball coming loose and the ball is in the back of the net.

 

[Ekeke]

He was ineffective. Offered nothing that impacted the game in any way. Massively overrated player. No wonder the team was set up to bypass midfield with hopeless long balls. Between Herrera and Matic we couldn't hold on to possession for more than 2-3 passes, even worse when that donkey Fellaini came on

He helped the CBs who had a heavy work load. He was 2 yards in front of them and won the ball more than the rest of the midfield. So of course he had an effect, without our players winning the ball as much as they did this would have been 5 or 6 goals

 

[Amar__]

We would never conceede that third goal with him on the pitch. That was embarassing defending from Our midfield/Matic.

 

[Loublaze]

He helped the CBs who had a heavy work load. He was 2 yards in front of them and won the ball more than the rest of the midfield. So of course he had an effect, without our players winning the ball as much as they did this would have been 5 or 6 goals

So helped keep the score down? Ok. We still got outclassed.

 

[Sunny Jim]

He was my MOTM yesterday. He played as 1 man midfield, 3rd CB and covered for RB. The number of interceptions was insane. He seemed to be everywhere. Offensivelly meh though.

 

[Ekeke]

So helped keep the score down? Ok. We still got outclassed.

Yes we did. But we set up to be outclassed.

We set up with 3 CBs and Ander and Matic literally 2 or 3 yards in front of them, almost a 4th and 5th CB. We were there to defend and try to keep things tight so we can nick a goal late on as has been Mourinho's method this season in all the big matches.

We set up like a small team sets up against us. Maybe even more defensive and anti-football than that. But the point is he won the ball 12 times which is a lot and thats what hes best at. None of our midfield played the ball forward well. In fact none of our players did in the entire team. But thats obviously not Ander's speciality, he isnt going to dictate play or play killer passes with regularity. He's going to make runs and have some movement in midfield, keep the ball moving and passing moves ticking on and when we lose the ball hes going to work just as hard if not harder than when we have the ball to win it back. Ander is probably the only one in the team other than the CBs where this is true. Most arent very interested when we dont have the ball.

 

[Sunny Jim]

I don't get the love for this guy - though all things are relative I suppose.

Did you see the 'defending' for the 2-1 goal?

Pathetic or non-existent? We could have a poll.

You are right that Mane dribbled past him before w lost the goal...point is why our CM played as right back?

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Yes we did. But we set up to be outclassed.

We set up with 3 CBs and Ander and Matic literally 2 or 3 yards in front of them, almost a 4th and 5th CB. We were there to defend and try to keep things tight so we can nick a goal late on as has been Mourinho's method this season in all the big matches.

We set up like a small team sets up against us. Maybe even more defensive and anti-football than that. But the point is he won the ball 12 times which is a lot and thats what hes best at. None of our midfield played the ball forward well. In fact none of our players did in the entire team. But thats obviously not Ander's speciality, he isnt going to dictate play or play killer passes with regularity. He's going to make runs and have some movement in midfield, keep the ball moving and passing moves ticking on and when we lose the ball hes going to work just as hard if not harder than when we have the ball to win it back. Ander is probably the only one in the team other than the CBs where this is true. Most arent very interested when we dont have the ball.

We did set up like a small club. People on here were critical of Burnley on Saturday.