Pirlo'sBeard
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I think he should have saved it really. He's too slow to shuffle his feet and get down. It's been noticeable in a lot of goals we've conceded.
Was waiting for his analysis. Let me repst it as it isng showingThe below thread is great analysis and echoes my thoughts: https://x.com/jhdharrison1/status/1732510908469985451?s=46&t=VSHmiQTFzH1S46eXOOqeCg
He is way too erratic. Some great distribution and the save from Jackson was great, but he lets too many soft goals in.
His performances vary too much, in game and from game to game.We would be better served with a keeper with a stable baseline of performance.
Clangers/soft goals conceded sprinkled at regular intervals between other good play is not going to be good enough as we get better.
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No one is “blaming him”, it’s soft goalkeeping. It won’t be in a compilation of clangers, but it’s another to add to the “could probably do better” Forest, Brighton & now tonight can fall into that category.People really are blaming Onana for that goal? Ok, I expected too much common sense from people, that is my fault.
People actually expect a Manchester United GK to save that, shock horror.People really are blaming Onana for that goal? Ok, I expected too much common sense from people, that is my fault.
The slow motion replay from behind the goal shows the issue really well. He plants his left foot far too early and immediately after taking a half step to the right. I think that's his main flaw. His footwork is poor which make saves much more awkward than they should be. But there are a lot of saves to be made where footwork isn't too important so will get away with it most of the time.
Yeah, agreed. For all the deserved shit he got so far this season we're definitely starting to see the value of having a keeper who can help pass through the press over the last few games.He has been poor at times, but his overall game adds so much to our play.
Nice to watch a game and not worry every time a defender passes to the GK.
We have an issue in the backline where they are too passive, which in turn creates too many shooting opportunities. Then we have a goalie who simply doesn't save some of the goals that he should be expected to save, and here I don't give two fecks about stats. Yesterday was not a mistake per se, and I'm sure x-something will point that out, but he should save it, and he knows it. Allisson would be livid with himself for letting that in. Prime DDG would never let that in, nor would Pope. We need goalies that make those saves.The slow motion replay from behind the goal shows the issue really well. He plants his left foot far too early and immediately after taking a half step to the right. I think that's his main flaw. His footwork is poor which make saves much more awkward than they should be. But there are a lot of saves to be made where footwork isn't too important so will get away with it most of the time.
Absolutely - he definitely adds a whole lot to the team both by being brave, coming off his line (could do that even more), his calmness and passing. Is his passing, btw, better against the better teams, for some reason? His passing was brilliant against Arsenal, great against Chelsea, but he struggled a bit more against some of the lesser teams... or am I mistaken?He has been poor at times, but his overall game adds so much to our play.
Nice to watch a game and not worry every time a defender passes to the GK.
I am not blaming him - but if he takes one step to the left before diving - he saves it. It's not a mistake because it's a very good finish, but a top-top keeper saves that shot.People really are blaming Onana for that goal? Ok, I expected too much common sense from people, that is my fault.
His overall game certainly adds goals against to our playHe has been poor at times, but his overall game adds so much to our play.
Nice to watch a game and not worry every time a defender passes to the GK.
I'm not so keen on being concerned every time the opposition have a shot though.He has been poor at times, but his overall game adds so much to our play.
Nice to watch a game and not worry every time a defender passes to the GK.
The better teams press higher which leaves space for him to exploit.Absolutely - he definitely adds a whole lot to the team both by being brave, coming off his line (could do that even more), his calmness and passing. Is his passing, btw, better against the better teams, for some reason? His passing was brilliant against Arsenal, great against Chelsea, but he struggled a bit more against some of the lesser teams... or am I mistaken?
His Prem form has been exceptional so far. Better than De Gea was for us last season in the league all round.I'm not so keen on being concerned every time the opposition have a shot though.
Not here to talk about DDG personally. Calling Onana exceptional at anything this season is a huge exaggeration/stretch.His Prem form has been exceptional so far. Better than De Gea was for us last season in the league all round.
We can pick bones but let’s be real De Gea was a net negative in huge parts of his game. Crosses and passing back to the keeper? Forget about it.
Even his shot stopping wasn’t amazing either apart from the odd YouTube worthy save the past few years. A fit and stable defence carried him massively last season.
Utter shite about the steps.
Right so you are naming like 2-3 games out of half a season? A little ridiculous considering he’s in the top 3 keepers in the league.Not here to talk about DDG personally. Calling Onana exceptional at anything this season is a huge exaggeration/stretch.
He's been 'ok' in the league, but still managed to chuck a few in (Brentford, Forest wasn't great etc).
He's not doing fine, he's been pretty shit. Let's hope he gets better.Right so you are naming like 2-3 games out of half a season? A little ridiculous considering he’s in the top 3 keepers in the league.
He’s doing just fine got off the guys back.
I disagree.He's not doing fine, he's been pretty shit. Let's hope he gets better.
What about him makes you think he's brave?! Was it shouting at Maguire?We have an issue in the backline where they are too passive, which in turn creates too many shooting opportunities. Then we have a goalie who simply doesn't save some of the goals that he should be expected to save, and here I don't give two fecks about stats. Yesterday was not a mistake per se, and I'm sure x-something will point that out, but he should save it, and he knows it. Allisson would be livid with himself for letting that in. Prime DDG would never let that in, nor would Pope. We need goalies that make those saves.
Just as we need forwards who can finish chances that average strikers don't. Atm, we have attackers and midfielders that don't finish off a free heading from five yards or open shots from 10 yards - we are so lacking up front in our finishing, and then we have an average to even slightly below average shot stopper - we need top class in both places.
I really like Onana - he looks to have the right mindset. He's brave, proactive and good with his feet, but his shot stopping is a concern. That is based on the eye-test, not stats, where he's the second best shot stopper in the league - anyone who believes that?
And if there is this fan urgency to blame someone, blame Lindelof for very weak defending. How can you give so much room and no pressure to an attacking player in the box?Utter shite about the steps.
I hate when people try to sound too clever.
How is he wrong?Utter shite about the steps.
I hate when people try to sound too clever.