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ivaldo

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It's also rather frightening to think what we'd be looking at going forward if we hadn't signed this lad. Being a so called 'desperation buy' and all that.

Let's not beat around the bush, he's our one big hope for the season in terms of scoring the goals we need to be successful.

That's kind of strange for United to be in that situation.
Him and Depay, Depay hasn't shown consistency yet but ye has shown moments of sheer brilliance, both will score important goals this season.
 

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Listening to Neville (from earlier on after the match) saying that we have to be careful how much we play him and that he should only be eased him, but I'm struggling to agree with him on it. Granted, we don't want to tire him out by playing him constantly, but he fully deserves to play, irrespective of how young he may be.
Agree here. What happened to "if your good enough, your old enough"? Any player can suffer from burnout or slump in form. If anything, Martial has shown more maturity this season than Rooney has done!

He is a confident lad, settling in fairly well and in good form. Deserves his place and doesn't need protection so far, he is strong enough both physically and mentally to keep playing. Showed that with his 2 well taken goals today. 30 minutes into the game where he wasn't involved much to produce that goal, and to read a passback and ease it past the keeper.
 

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Most top players all started playing in the first team from a very young age. If you're good enough, you're old enough.
 

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He scores goals... which is something our other strikers seem to have forgotten how to do.
 

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Listening to Neville (from earlier on after the match) saying that we have to be careful how much we play him and that he should only be eased him, but I'm struggling to agree with him on it. Granted, we don't want to tire him out by playing him constantly, but he fully deserves to play, irrespective of how young he may be.
Hm. Giggs was managed and Owen exposed in their early years. He needs rest time and recovery. Definitely.
 

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What a start for the kid. Brilliant composure on both goals. Gives us pace, skill and running power we've lacked for awhile.
 

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Neville was chatting shit there - Rooney and Ronaldo were playing day in and day out when they came here. If a players ready, he is ready. And Martial looks more than ready, physically and mentally he looks solid.
Rooney played every game because he was a physical anomaly from a very young age.

Ronaldo was managed by Fergie though. He started quite a few games from the bench in his early days.

It didn't fully come together for Ronaldo until the second half of the 05/06 season.
 

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It's also rather frightening to think what we'd be looking at going forward if we hadn't signed this lad. Being a so called 'desperation buy' and all that.

Let's not beat around the bush, he's our one big hope for the season in terms of scoring the goals we need to be successful.

That's kind of strange for United to be in that situation.
Just said the same thing in another thread, Need to pray he stays fit, otherwise we are going to find it hard to score.
 

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Listening to Neville (from earlier on after the match) saying that we have to be careful how much we play him and that he should only be eased him, but I'm struggling to agree with him on it. Granted, we don't want to tire him out by playing him constantly, but he fully deserves to play, irrespective of how young he may be.
It's a physical thing rather than a reflection on his ability, ideally you want to be able to prepare a player slowly and allow him plenty of rest periods, however this season we don't really have that option.
 

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Hm. Giggs was managed and Owen exposed in their early years. He needs rest time and recovery. Definitely.
Owen's just one example, though.

And Giggs wasn't particularly protected: he played 51 games in the 1991/1992 season, and 46 the next season. He was already a regular starter for us by the time he was in his late teens. Ronaldo was given plenty of opportunities at a young age, and flourished, without deteriorating too quickly. Same with Messi. Same with Aguero. Same with Rooney, even if he's looking a lot poorer now.

Some players wear out early, although that can often be more down to injury than anything else. Some players just naturally peak early. But the majority of top players generally start to get lots of opportunities in their late-teens. Martial should be no different, especially since he's playing well. I'd understand holding him back more if he was only 16 or 17, but at 19 he should be given plenty of playing time considering the hype around him.
 

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Are we sure he's 19? He hasn't forged his papers?

Such maturity in his play and composure in front of goal at that age is astonishing. Plus he's got a solid build and is damn strong.

Exciting times :devil:
 

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Most top players all started playing in the first team from a very young age. If you're good enough, you're old enough.
Indeed.

I don't agree at all with this modern idea that young players need to be eased in carefully in order to prevent them from burning out faster when they are older. If distance runners adopted this philosophy, they would never reach the elite level. East African runners in particular are known to put in crazy mileages at an early age and they are not only known for being the best runners at their peak age but also for running at a high level well into their 30s and 40s.

Obviously if a player starts playing regular football at an earlier age than his peers he is more likely to pick up injuries by the age of 30 and might be worse off for it, but you could make the same point about a player at any age. If you took a 25 year old player and halved his playing time between the age of 25-27, he might on average notch up fewer injuries by the time he is 30 and as a result be in a slighter better physical condition than if he had played all the games in this period, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea.
 

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Neville was chatting shit there - Rooney and Ronaldo were playing day in and day out when they came here. If a players ready, he is ready. And Martial looks more than ready, physically and mentally he looks solid.
Rooney played every game because he was a physical anomaly from a very young age.

Ronaldo was managed by Fergie though. He started quite a few games from the bench in his early days.

It didn't fully come together for Ronaldo until the second half of the 05/06 season.
@Kraftwerker is correct, Ronaldo started 15 league games and came on as a sub in 14 league games in his first season.
 

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Rooney played every game because he was a physical anomaly from a very young age.

Ronaldo was managed by Fergie though. He started quite a few games from the bench in his early days.

It didn't fully come together for Ronaldo until the second half of the 05/06 season.
Martial looks physically ready though doesn't he?

Ronaldo wasnt strong enough at first, but even then, he had around 20 or more starts in his first couple years with us.
 

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Martial looks physically ready though doesn't he?

Ronaldo wasnt strong enough at first, but even then, he had around 20 or more starts in his first couple years with us.
He does, which is one of the most encouraging things.

I'm just worried about us already becoming too reliant on him (and another young player in Depay) to constantly find the bullets for us.

I think Rooney was maybe overplayed a bit as youngster and is suffering for it now with a premature physical decline.

Still I think you should always play your best players to win the game and Martial is certainly looking like one of our best players.
 

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Martial plays the game very economically. He doesn't waste too much energy chasing lost causes, tracking back or contesting decisions. He appears to almost play within himself but comes alive the second he gets possession. I really don't see a problem with him continuing too start. A younger Rooney or Giggs and you could sense potential problems with over exposure although both dealt with it fantastically well. I suppose at 19 an eye will have to be kept on his development from boy to man perhaps ensuring that the same problems that Welbeck had don't resurface but at the minute he is undroppable.
 

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He's proving he can cope with pressure and has the composure to score goals at this level. Being so young he'll not always be consistent. However, he does have the talent and will only improve with time.

His biggest test of temperament will come when things do not go well.
 

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So glad for him! Perhaps even more than he is for himself by the looks of things :lol:
 

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The only player from the top 4 teams to have 3 or more goals in the league :D
Was about to say, has more goals then Aguero, Costa, Rooney, Giroud, Sturridge, Benteke or Kane :lol: With only just over 100 minutes played.
 

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Anything think he could play next to Wilson? Or will it be the case of Martial drifting out to the wing to let Wilson do his stuff in the middle?
 

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What a great start for him. He'll be riding such a wave of confidence right now. Hopefully he can keep scoring.
 

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Anything think he could play next to Wilson? Or will it be the case of Martial drifting out to the wing to let Wilson do his stuff in the middle?
Wilson can play wide and his physic is more suited for the wide areas.
 

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I honestly think that we'll even see Rooney banging them in soon now that the attacking burden is lifted. It's just so good to have a striker that can finish and can link up play again. I wonder if he'll soon be mentioned in the same breath as the likes of Aguero, Benzema and the rest in 2-3 years. Who knows, maybe he'll surpass them.
 

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So, anyone backing him for young player of the year? :)
Could easily do it. Early days but if he keeps on doing what he's doing - then certainly.

His composure is unreal. I actually started celebrating before he even shot his second goal. I have so much confidence in him when one on one. How many shots has he had for us now? About 5 maximum surely. Scored 3 from them.
 

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Anything think he could play next to Wilson? Or will it be the case of Martial drifting out to the wing to let Wilson do his stuff in the middle?
Martial seems best as a lone striker, or with a second striker as a #10 behind him (like a Rooney from a few years ago). Wilson is a poacher and you can't really have two of them. Martial is capable of going deeper and all that, but you want him leading the line. He's very similar to Aguero in terms of his type of striker, and you wouldn't play Aguero next to another poacher as it takes away from his game.
 

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Martial is a few weeks from 20 with first team experiance from France and the CL.
He isn't a 17 year old just breaking through. Just because he's a young player for us doesn't mean we should treat him the same way we treated Giggs etc. I bet Giggs / Ronaldo and Rooney were starting more games around their 20th birthday than being 'eased and managed'
 

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This guy is pure class and has such maturity for a 19 year old, confident but not arrogant. Hope he continues to prove the doubters wrong all season.
 

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His all round play is the most impressive thing. Runs down the channels with strength and speed, has great close control when dribbling with the ball, holds the ball with strength. He's basically the perfect striker for us and the one we've been wanting for the past couple of years. Very surprised by how good the signing is looking right now
 
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