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Some literally are. Player comes in for the last 20 mins of a pre-season friendly after 15 subs have stopped all game rhythm, people bash him for not doing muchThe overreactions in this thread are pretty funny. It's as if people are just waiting for it.
He's not really, no one is making the vile personally comments that were aimed at Rooney. There was a real hatred. Martial isn't performing as we know he can, Rooney was a shadow of the player he once was. People get frustrated and should really think about what they post, Maybe we've a immature dicks on here who put it down to banter or frustration, or not engaging their brain before posting or just like being a dick.
I can't speak for everyone. And I haven't watched any of the tour games (3am FFS!) But in general, I don't get the impression people want him to fail. But I think he is very frustrating because he has the ability to be as good and effective as someone like Eden Hazard, but so often last season he didn't look fussed. His head always seems to be elsewhere.
I agree, I think actually there is a lot of love and support for the guy, but equally so there is this immense yearning for him to step up more, be the player that his undoubted talent suggests. It's probably his make or break season with the club and I for one hope he takes it.
Fairly certain he only played half a dozen games as a forward last season. Majority of the time, he's been on the left wing. The season where he did play as a striker, he was our top scorer with 17. Rubbish my arse. Indifferent, inconsistent, up and down.
Not the best of posts... his stats last season weren't all that bad, the problem was they were covering the fact that he was often not involved in rest of the game . Nobody really talks about his movement unless in the context of its absence! And, he doesn't just dribble once or twice but is probably one of the best dribblers in the league. His problem is he needs it at his feet, which becomes easy to mark out.
Difference being Pereira isn't harped on about on here as being some sort of footballing phenomenon who can do no wrong, like Martial is. Not to add, Pereira went out on loan and is coming off the back of a very good season, Martial is coming off the back of a piss poor one.
In his best season for us, he still played the majority of the games from the left iirc.
LW is not something that is completely alien to him. There is inconclusive proof that he is better as a striker than a LW, this seems to be something that is often used to excuse his performances. Besides, plenty of players have contributed when played on the LW before eventually moving to striker position and he's not one of the inflexible ones.
He's scored what, 4 goals and 6 assists last season in the league. That is definitely scraping the barrel for a LW at a top 6 club.
i agree, hardly anyone from the team showed up in that second halfSome literally are. Player comes in for the last 20 mins of a pre-season friendly after 15 subs have stopped all game rhythm, people bash him for not doing much
I'm ok with criticising shit performances when it matters and when more should be reasonably expected from the player. This is not one of those times.
That's fair enough if we're going to judge all our attacking players on this basis. If so, it's last chance saloon for a lot of players this season.
Cristiano Ronaldo for us: 2003-04 - 4 goals, 2004-05 - 5 goals, and 2005-06 - 9 goals. Clearly he didn't cut the mustard either.
We don't have enough player as it is, losing players like Martial on loan will be big issue when it comes to squad depth.
I think he's a better winger than a striker, but you'll get more goalscoring chances playing as a striker than you will as a left winger. Especially in the United team last year which failed to score goals from everyone bar Zlatan. He scored plenty in that first season so he's shown he can do it.
That is the issue with failing to bring players in. We're holding on to him out of desperation for numbers instead of acting in his best interest (which in the long term would be better for our interests).
It's ironic that Martial, by exceeding expectations in his first season, has put more pressure on himself than a guy who wouldn't have produced the way he did.
Last season wasn't piss poor, and this season hasn't bloody started, he's had two season with us too? Explain yourself.
That's actually true, sadly enough. Every one of them needs to improve for sure.
I agree that it can go either ways for him. Who is re-writing history? He was the brightest spark for us in the 2015-16 season but was hardly 'piss poor' last season, although he needs to pick up much more.
He's an extremely talent player, anyone can see that. He can rush with the ball at a speed that no other player in our team can. However there are several problems he need to overcome or his skills won't make much difference on the pitch.
I think the best for him would be playing for ManUtd and fighting for his place than going out on loan. Lukaku would be more or less would be our #9 for years, so it's better if he starts adapting playing wide or if Jose goes with 2 striker system then play with Lukaku.
The most important point for me is that he needs to start moving. Despite his pace, its very rare that he runs behind defenders to pick up a pass or works to shake off his markers. He could learn a lot from our academy boys, Lingard and Rashford in this respect to be honest.
Because people are desperate for someone to fail so we can buy more players. Like the interviews with Shaws where he's saying that he hopes this will a big season for him etc, where the responses are that it'll be his last season at the club. I suppose it's somewhat natural given the location of some of those people...
season hasn't even started
Yep his finishing for an Man United attacker is far from good enough, nevermind a player who wants to play as a ST. Needs to improve on his shooting and off the ball movement big time over the next year or he could be shown the door in the summer.
Yeah, I guess the ozone level is different for different countries. It makes some of us in certain locations light headed and prone to thinking differently about United players.
