Agree, Awpupd be good to see Rashford and Martial rotated in that position. I think Shaw, if he can prove his fitness and form, could excel in that position and become a real asset for us there. Yes Blind played there for LvG's Holland side so he could play that role too. I'm a big fan of Blind, not the quickest but a really clever player and an excellent passer and distributor. If needed Darmian could do a job there too. Moving forward I think 3-5-2 could really suit us.Would love to see this as well, as I think it would get a lot out of Martial (or Rashford could play a similar role). I think this will be an option if we play with two strikers, presumably in a 3-5-2. The problem right now is that without Perisic, it's hard for me to see who will play the left wing back in this if not Martial. Perhaps Darmian, perhaps Lingard I guess. And Shaw would potentially be perfect, but feels like a stretch to rely on him for that. I think of him as being too slow for it, but didn't Blind play some wingback for LVG's Holland team?
That would be a great return given his last season. I'd say he'll get around 12 goals and maybe 8 assists, I hope he surpasses both our expectations.If he can notch up 15+ goals and 10+ assists in the league this season, I will consider it a good return. What expectations do you think we can have from him this season?
needs to lay off the rompi pompi?He's been shite since he dumped his wife for that model.
At what point does his shit performances start being his fault?Didn't get a touch really. Said it in the match thread too - Darmian really doesn't do him any favours.
You count 20 minutes against a team in a friendly where our foot was firmly off the gas and where he didn't actually do anything bad as a shit performance? Yikes.At what point does his shit performances start being his fault?
Along with the other year and a bit of shit form, sure do.You count 20 minutes against a team in a friendly where our foot was firmly off the gas and where he didn't actually do anything bad as a shit performance? Yikes.
It's tactical I think. It's like he doesn't have the intelligence to get himself into a game when it's passing him by. He just stands out wide and waits for someone to pass to him. I often wonder if our offensive coaches ever seat him down and show him videos of himself standing outwide doing absolutely nothingWhat exactly is his problem? Is it a technical or mental barrier?
It was an issue of his at Monaco too and it was being worked on, so he knows it's a weakness in his game. I'm certain Jose also knows, as it seems to be a big reason as to why he prefers Lingard etc.It's tactical I think. It's like he doesn't have the intelligence to get himself into a game when it's passing him by. He just stands out wide and waits for someone to pass to him. I often wonder if our offensive coaches ever seat him down and show him videos of himself standing outwide doing absolutely nothing
How many minutes did he play?
Oh come on Martial is just too static. Even when a cross comes into the box he stands out wide he doesn't try to make a run into the box . When all the other offensive players are in and around the box he is standing still outsideDidn't get a touch really. Said it in the match thread too - Darmian really doesn't do him any favours.
Positional or not, it's his overall game that worries me, he doesn't move. He's always standing still, waiting for the others to move around him, constantly waiting for the ball into his feet. He then cuts in from the left and either crosses to the far post or runs into 3 defenders and passes backwards, rinse and repeat all game.Martial does look sharper & give more effort closing down player in our pressing phase than before. It's a positive thing/ improvement. I don't expect him to become a winger. It's not his natural game. So in game he is supposed to play winger, he disappears, it can't be helped
You're nuts! No way.Would not be upset if he went out on loan and probably wouldn't be devastated if he was sold as part of a transfer package.
The second game too he looked great after he was moved forwardMartial does look sharper & give more effort closing down player in our pressing phase than before. It's a positive thing/ improvement. I don't expect him to become a winger. It's not his natural game. So in game he is supposed to play winger, he disappears, it can't be helped. I think he's just given gametime now in this failed position so he can build fitness. That winger position is to be filled, while Martial in long term would be tried again as forward like the first game which he was much better.
Maybe he is abit thick?Positional or not, it's his overall game that worries me, he doesn't move. He's always standing still, waiting for the others to move around him, constantly waiting for the ball into his feet. He then cuts in from the left and either crosses to the far post or runs into 3 defenders and passes backwards, rinse and repeat all game.
As I said, his style is more suited to be a forward. I don't expect him to suddenly become a proper winger. He is given time to build fitness & sharpness for the incoming season while I believe Mourinho & many of us can see how Martial comes into life better in forward role.Positional or not, it's his overall game that worries me, he doesn't move. He's always standing still, waiting for the others to move around him, constantly waiting for the ball into his feet.
Well, I'm starting to get confident he's not a typical Jose winger at all and won't make it here as a winger with Jose managing us. He's very lethargic on the flank and not causing chaos for the defenders as what Jose wants from his wingers. Rashford did that perfectly so he's a more preferred option.It's tactical I think. It's like he doesn't have the intelligence to get himself into a game when it's passing him by. He just stands out wide and waits for someone to pass to him. I often wonder if our offensive coaches ever seat him down and show him videos of himself standing outwide doing absolutely nothing
Problem was there last seasonSome of the analysis, It's a friendly game and game was already won. When he dribbled past fullback, cut inside and tried to play Lukaku in, Lukaku was already exhausted and asked him to pass the ball backwards. He can't influence the game alone when whole left side was flat as it was friendly and tempo completely dropped.
Which is a problem in of itself. Last season when Ibra was injured Rashford was our main striker. It's obvious Jose doesn't see him as a striker, the same way LVG preferred Rashford too. Now that Lukaku's here, he's our main striker, with Rashford seemingly the second choice (he's played up top this pre-season too). So where does that leave Martial?As I said, his style is more suited to be a forward. I don't expect him to suddenly become a proper winger. He is given time to build fitness & sharpness for the incoming season while I believe Mourinho & many of us can see how Martial comes into life better in forward role.
This isn't last season. There was lot of problems last season. He is young player and still plenty to improve, so why not wait till the season starts to see how he is playing? These friendly games are nothing but fitness building exercises.Problem was there last season
This is my opinion only, but Rashford & Martial can't play centrally together. Both lack the presence & hold up play. Martial prefers a more patient link up while Rashford prefers a hyper approach with linking up. Martial was used as wide forward in that case under LVG so they don't mess up each other in case both playing centrally.Which is a problem in of itself. Last season when Ibra was injured Rashford was our main striker. It's obvious Jose doesn't see him as a striker, the same way LVG preferred Rashford too. Now that Lukaku's here, he's our main striker, with Rashford seemingly the second choice (he's played up top this pre-season too). So where does that leave Martial?
Andreas Pereira was dreadful as well, barely did anything of note, just tossed it off on the pitch and so lazy, overrated, sell Pereira and sack Martial.Along with the other year and a bit of shit form, sure do.